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« on: June 14, 2014, 08:30:55 AM »
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  • Apparently, the faithful were told they could not use the parking lot of a church being occupied by the modernist during a regularly scheduled pilgrimage in New York.

    Bishop Fellay claims that he will let Rome know about it, especially since the Novus Ordo clergy is always letting the Protestants use their churches.

    I'm not sure if I can agree with handling it in that way. There is nothing brilliant about a "traditional" bishop claiming the Novus Ordo sect is not being sufficiently ecumenical, in my opinion. What does he think he is going to accomplish and why throw it around brazingly that he will tell Rome, as if they cared or would do anything about it. Where has he been? Has he not seen the open attack on the Novus Ordo tradition-leaning Franciscan friars?







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    The image above (courtesy of Fr. John Young), shows Bishop Bernard Fellay blessing the numerous pilgrims on Saturday, June 7th, during the annual Pilgrimage of Tradition to the Shrine of the North American Martyrs in Auriesville, New York. Holding the megaphone for the bishop is Fr. Michael Goldade, the pilgrimage organizer, who has provided some news about the event.

    A common problem that has arisen of late at various pilgrimage shrines in the United States is the prohibition against entering the grounds to pray, let alone the ability to use the facilities there. Such actions, clearly betray a deliberate animosity towards Tradition, for these same shrines often bend-over-backwards to be ecumenically-hospitable to non-Catholic groups. Such a problem has been ongoing at the Auriesville site for several years, where the SSPX's pilgrims have been prohibited from having Mass in the Coliseum, the name of the shrine's circular chapel.

    As Fr. Goldade reports, the shrine's administrator decided to "up the ante" this year by forbidding the use of the shrine's parking lot—and apparently under a false pretext. Having witnessed this injustice to the Catholic faithful who walked 10 miles to pray at the North American Martyrs Shrine, Bishop Fellay declared he would be protesting this treatment to the Roman authorities.

    Despite the negative attitude exhibited towards the pilgrims, the pilgrimage was nonetheless full of hope, joy and many graces. Following Fr. Goldade's report, we offer for our readers' edification some images from some previous years of the Auriesville Pilgrimage—we hope to offer a photo gallery from this year's event soon.

    An Auriesville Pilgrimage report from Fr. Goldade
    The Auriesville pilgrimage of June 7th, which had as its intention the Rosary Crusade, went well with Bishop Fellay and a little over 600 pilgrims in attendance. The weather was perfect. There was a bit of conflict with the shrine which upset our plans on the very morning of the pilgrimage.

    Nearly 50 vehicles of pilgrims had shown up on the shrine grounds—as they have done now for 21 years—when the Jesuit administrator of the shrine, Fr. George Belgarde, ordered all SSPX pilgrims off of the site.

    An officer from the sheriff’s department and Police Chief Greg Culik were called and intervened. The sheriff said that he could not order the cars to be removed [see some images], however he advised that they should be relocated because tow trucks could be called by the shrine's authorities.

    The reasons given by Fr. Belgarde for this prohibition were:

    the SSPX is not within the Church;
    there were three other pilgrimages expected that day.
    Officer Culik later observed though that there were no more than four cars in parking lot throughout the day!

    There seems to be unjust discrimination towards the Society, as the shrine had no problem in selling the former Jesuit Retreat House (located just next to the shrine) to a group of Buddhists and has also hosted pow-wows for Native Americans. Yet neither group is remotely within the Church.

    A letter had been sent to Bishop Scharfenberger, the newly-elected Bishop of Albany, requesting the use of the Coliseum and shrine property, but no response was ever received. A telephone call was also made on Friday, April 25 to Fr. George Belgarde requesting a phone conversation and notifying him of our pilgrimage.

    Bishop Fellay, who witnessed the action of the shrine's administrator, commented that Rome would hear about this injustice.



    http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/auriesville-injustice-rome-will-hear-4213


    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

    Offline Frances

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    « Reply #1 on: June 14, 2014, 10:41:42 AM »
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  •  :dancing-banana:
    Oh?  Let's wait and see how much influence +Fellay has in Rome. Perhaps this incident will be used as barter material?  Rome will force the diocese of Albany to allow use of their parking field in exchange for signing over the SSPX to Pope Francis's care.  
    Personally, I prefer Fr. P.'s style of negotiation.  In 2008, the octagonal shrine had a n.o. guard stationed at every other door.  When Fr. went to enter, the lesbian guard looked at his cassock and breviary and brusquely stated, "You can't come in here!  You can't come in here!" To which Father replied, "Wrong door, Ma'am?  Then I'll use this one." Before she could recoup her bravado, Fr. had already slipped through the next door and sat himself amongst a busload of Catholic senior citizens whose guide was busily lecturing his audience.  Unless the shrine administrators wished to lose county subsidised "customers" and their business in the gift shop, there was no way to eject Fr. P. without embarrassing themselves, so he was left in peace.  
    Problems with access and use of the Auriesville shrine and facilities are of longstanding, predating 2012.  I stopped attending when ability to arrive late and stay overnight on the grounds in or beside my vehicle were disallowed.  Like many such trad. events, I've been priced out.  That, too, is nothing new.  
     
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    « Reply #2 on: June 14, 2014, 10:53:14 AM »
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    « Reply #3 on: June 14, 2014, 10:57:04 AM »
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    You should have +Fellay advise Rome of this.  :geezer:
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #4 on: June 14, 2014, 11:02:59 AM »
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  • So Bp. Fellay is going to complain directly to Rome about injustices committed against sspx traditional Catholics during a recent pilgrimage.  So what!?  Fellay is himself guilty of great injustices against his own priests and faithful, including the Society's erstwhile senior bishop.  Fellay hasn't a leg to stand on.  What is more, what is he doing here in the U.S. anyway?  SSPX has a resident bishop here who could lead such a pilgrimage.  The SG doesn't need to spend more of the faithful's money in order to finance these frequent and unnecessary trips to America.  And what is with the burgundy-colored cassock?  Is that a color designated in the liturgy especially for pilgrimages?  My goodness, the man is becoming a nuisance, and certainly no true spokesman or representative of true traditional Catholicism.  He just needs to go away.    


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    « Reply #5 on: June 14, 2014, 11:16:59 AM »
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  • Someone  should remind bf of his pilgrimage to Fatima 2006, and the reception given to the Catholics... the more things change, the more they stay the same... they still spit on the Faith!

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    « Reply #6 on: June 14, 2014, 11:38:29 AM »
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    Someone should remind bf of his pilgrimage to Fatima 2006, and the reception given to the Catholics... the more things change, the more they stay the same... they still spit on the Faith!


    I think it was 2005.  We were there.  In any case, we had a great admiration for Bp. Fellay then.  Four years later that admiration suddenly terminated.  We began to see the real SG for what he was, and were quite put off by what we saw.  Bp. Fellays, alas, have often insinuated themselves into Church history.  He is not the first, and will not be the last.

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    « Reply #7 on: June 14, 2014, 12:18:38 PM »
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  • We were there too. the division was clear, BW was dressed differently to the other Bishops, we had no idea anything was amiss, untill someone drew that to our attention, we still didnt believe them.... we do now... do you remember the nun with the hoover during the Rosary?


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    « Reply #8 on: June 14, 2014, 09:02:49 PM »
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  • I can see the logic in +Fellay here lol.

    Frank to +Fellay:
    OK, we allow you a side altar at the shrine but since you are "una cum" with me and my heretical local monster of a bishop, if a local charismatic Mass needs to be said at your chapel you must be welcoming as well!

    It goes both ways, +Fellay.

     

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