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Offline Thomist disciple

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anton thai trinh
« on: August 02, 2018, 02:54:09 PM »
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  • Does anyone know about the ordination and/or conditional ordination of anton thai trinh?


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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #1 on: August 02, 2018, 06:20:42 PM »
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  • He was conditionally ordained twice.

    Then he was consecrated bishop by Bishop Slupski (R.I.P.) a few years ago.
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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #2 on: August 02, 2018, 06:22:16 PM »
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  • He was conditionally ordained twice.

    Then he was consecrated bishop by Bishop Slupski (R.I.P.) a few years ago.
    Twice?  By whom?  Do you know why he doubted the original ordination (I presume it was by a Novus Ordo bishop) and the first conditional ordination?

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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #3 on: August 03, 2018, 04:42:16 PM »
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  • Twice?  By whom?  Do you know why he doubted the original ordination (I presume it was by a Novus Ordo bishop) and the first conditional ordination?
    I believe his conditional ordinations were by Bishop Fellay and Bishop Slupski.
    Bishop Fellay (and/or the SSPX) wouldn't give him any docuмent or proof of any kind that he had been conditionally ordained, so he basically had no choice but to go through conditional ordination again. The whole point of conditional ordination is to remove doubt in the minds of the Faithful.
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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #4 on: August 03, 2018, 08:34:56 PM »
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  • Bishop Fellay (and/or the SSPX) wouldn't give him any docuмent or proof of any kind that he had been conditionally ordained ...

    That's very interesting.  Every once in a while the sacristans at STAS in Winona were asked to set up Our Lady's chapel (Bishop Williamson offered Mass there most of the time) with the things needed for an ordination (when some Novus Ordo refugee priest had shown up).  That was, if I recall correctly, on the second floor of the main building.  But it was to be kept hush-hush, as none of the priests would officially confirm or deny the speculation.  These conditional ordinations were done almost secretly.  Not quite sure why.  They were never done in the main chapel.  Lots of inquiries were made as quite a few seminarians were not comfortable serving Mass for a Novus Ordo priest who had not been conditionally ordained.


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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2018, 01:34:05 PM »
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  • Found this:


    Will Not Return to SSPX
    by Father Anton Thai Trinh
    for The Four Marks
    November 2011 Vol. 6 No. 11
    I am Father Anton Thai Trinh. I was born on October 15, 1956 in the old capital Saigon of South Vietnam. My parents were refugees, in the mid-1950s, from the North, where Communists took control. Little did they know that God allowed the fall of South Vietnam on Black April 30, 1975. We six children became refugees. Our parents for the second. They welcomed two priests who lost their churches in war, and went with us as “boat people”. A driver and bodyguard of my father also went to sea with us. Like ants, in simple boats we faced the mighty waves, terrible hunger and thirst. Our group escaped pirates who would rape the women and murder the men. It was an exodus for those of us who survived. Our faith was tested and confirmed.
    I was attracted to be a priest when I was very young. And I forgot about it when I grew up. But God didn’t. I heard His Call again when I was a Junior in college. I was very active in serving Masses, leading efugees in settling down in a new land. God granted us holy priests. My Sponsor and first US Pastor, Reverent Father James Flanagan was inspired to found a great missionary Society. I was guided to graduate from University of Missouri-Kansas City in both Ancient Philosophy and Mathematics. I studied at the Chicago Theological Union, and graduated with a Master of Divinity with Evangelization Specialty. I was ordained by the late Bishop James Lykes, OFM on Pentecost 1990 in St Peter’s Church, Chicago, IL. [For 13 years, Fr. Trinh served as a Novus Ordo priest, before he met traditional Catholics who re-introduced the Tridentine Mass and traditional Catholicism to him.—Ed.]
    I was revived as I searched and immersed myself in the ancient Catholic Truth. I am grateful to have received traditional Catholic training, with a special 2-year program, at the old Regina Coeli House from the Society of Saint Pius X (SSPX) in Kansas City. I was conditionally ordained by Bishop Bernard Fellay, SSPX in 2007, at the newly blessed Chapel at the USA Headquarters in Platte City, Missouri. I was told that it should be kept low-keyed. No picture of this conditional ordination in full Traditional Rite appeared in the Regina Coeli Report. As a new member of the SSPX, and when I was smooth enough with my Latin, I was sent to help out at various chapels or missions. I am [still] struck by the faith of the people. The people who support the SSPX in general want to build up their faith by preserving the traditional Catholic
    teaching. They do not want to mix with the crazy, ecuмenical modern church of the infamous Vatican 2. I also see some who want to practice their faith in even a more “traditional” way. I helped to teach Religion in the first, seventh and eighth grades in St Louis. Often the young ones surprised me with their simple yet rich questions.
    Traditional Catholic school is challenging. In due time, I was asked to be the pastor at Sanford and Ft. Myers, Florida. St. Thomas More Church is solid and ready
    to become a SSPX Priory. With many active members with more than 133 persons, it is ready to form a school also. ...Continued on page 8
     
    Our Lady Queen of the Angels is small with its some 40 members. Yet it has a long story of surviving amidst confusion. It has a rich library, and hosted many books discussion meetings for the adults. In summer, I had a major surgery and was shifted to Arcadia Priory, while serving the St. John Bosco Mission in San Diego. Much less traveling and this helped at the time. There was some rough water from an earlier shepherd, such that I was helping out there for a while without a title, and pastoring
    was reserved for the Prior in Arcadia. I saw something strange, and reported to higher authority, the new District Superior and General Superior, but no real corrections
    were done. More than six months passed, and without really knowing what had happened, I was on my own. When I realized that the present leaders were so busy, I took the hint of a certain prior: The door is open, if you want to leave, just leave. I spent some 3 months afterward in prayer. Then, I decided to research Sedevacantism. After all, I am better off knowing about it as some implied. I am enriched and surprised to find out about this “branch” of Traditional Catholicism. I got to know some independent
    Traditional priests who helped me to see better what Traditional Catholicism without compromising means. Among the lay people, Kathleen of The Four Marks, and Mary Ann of Lux Vera are very helpful in assisting me to understand better what it means to be an independent, Traditional priest.
    When I left the SSPX in February 2011, solving leadership abuses was my focus, and sedevacantism was a vague term. Some six months later, I am at peace to move on as an independent, Traditional Catholic priest. If someone now asks me if I am Sedevacantist; I may reply “Tell me of your understanding of Sedevacantist, and I will tell you how Sesevacantism help me to understand better the on-going war against Mother Church”
    Though it was only some 6 months, being independent helped me as a true Catholic priest. For one, a sedevacantist does not need to play the human game of “dialogue” with a diabolical Vatican representative. No need to ask, if one will be recognized at the end by mere man. The sedevacantist does not pretend resistance to the Modernist Vatican. The sedevacantist knows that the Catholic Church cannot mislead Her children as the Vatican does. Or worse, does he truly resist against the Modernist devils while smiling and luring many people away from the tradition, is such a one a real Catholic?
    Presently, I am serving two very small groups in New Mexico and Central Texas. Generally, I am still able to help out at 2 more independent Traditional Catholics chapels or missions once per month. Let me know if your independent group needs a help in Tridentine Mass and traditional Sacraments when applied. God closes a door, and God opens many other doors. Thanks be to our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ. May we receive Thy Graces well, so to be independent from Satan, the World and the Flesh; and be dependent on Thou O Lord Jesus, and Thy True Catholic Tradition, now and forever. Amen.



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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2018, 02:03:51 PM »
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    Presently, I am serving two very small groups in New Mexico and Central Texas.
    That was in 2011. Where is he now? 
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2018, 08:44:23 AM »
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  • Last I heard he was in El Paso, but that may not be current since I did not even know he was made a bishop.

    What city in TX, Matthew?


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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #8 on: August 05, 2018, 10:19:24 AM »
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  • Last I heard he was in El Paso, but that may not be current since I did not even know he was made a bishop.

    What city in TX, Matthew?

    Lampasas, which is close to Austin (but not to me). He used to have Mass at Copperas Cove nearby as well, in a nursing home chapel, but that had to stop after his contact at the nursing home left (passed away or moved, I don't remember).

    Fr. Trinh is a solid Trad priest, as long as you aren't too attached to the 1962 Missal. He uses the "pre-1955" (whatever that means).
    He uses the Missale he uses because "that is how [he] was trained as a Traditional priest." He is just being docile, obedient, and faithful, as it were.
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Fr. Ringrose trained him.

    By the way, Bp. Trinh is very secretive about what he does and where he goes on a monthly basis. He doesn't talk about his other apostolates or locations when you attend Mass in Lampasas, for example. His experience with the Communists in Vietnam has taught him a hefty dose of prudence, especially keeping most information on a need-to-know basis.

    I grew up with another priest who was just like that, Bishop (then Fr.) Frank Slupski. He was from (communist) Poland, and knew the Communists all too well. As a result, he went by Fr. Frank -- not because he was Novus Ordo, because he never said the Novus Ordo and was ordained before Vatican II -- but because "Frank" was more common than "Slupski" and hence harder for the commies to track.
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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #9 on: August 05, 2018, 10:56:34 AM »
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  • Thanks Matthew,

    I can help clear this up a bit more...  I attend regularly (since SSPX compromised) Bp. Trinh's pre-1951, Tridentine Mass in a very small chapel (trailer) just outside of Copperas Cove, Tx.  The address is 235 Julia Dr., NW of town.  Two Vietnamese families from California are the principle support for Bp. Trinh in Copperas Cove.  Thomas is the chapel coordinator.  Fr. Trinh has plans, Lord Willing, to build a modest chapel on this property and remove the trailer.

    Mass in Lampasas ended at the local hospital basement when Bp. Trinh's sister, MD Dr. Ann suddenly died, not sure of the reason but I assisted at the funeral Mass.  With all the sudden deaths of MD's who support natural wellness and cures I fear what might have took her life so suddenly.  Dr. Ann's sons were Mass servers.

    Bp. Trinh is persecuted by his own family as they mostly remain in the comfort of Novus Ordo. 

    After leaving SSPX he spent time with Fr. Ringrose to learn the pre-51 Mass.  He welcomes all Catholics of good will and helps the faithful navigate spiritually through this apostasy in high places.  He states clearly that he is not Sede in that there is no Pope but that there serious concerns on the legitimacy of Francis that needs much prayer and patience. 

    After Bishop Slupski's recent death (last May) Bp. Trinh confirmed his Consecration to Monsignor by Bishop Slupski and full faculties as Bishop. 

    We must pray for all the remaining Bishops and Priests of the Church of Sardis (Rev 3:1-5) to "Be watchful and strengthen the things that remain, which are ready to die".

    In Christo,
    Patrick Coon, Georgetown, Texas

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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #10 on: August 05, 2018, 01:19:46 PM »
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  • Thanks for the corrections/clarifications, Patrick. You are right there, and first-hand information is always best. 

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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #11 on: August 06, 2018, 10:56:01 AM »
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  • Matthew, who consecrated Fr. Slupski to bishop?

    If you think Bp. Slupski is valid,  wouldn't that make Trinh valid too?

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    Re: anton thai trinh
    « Reply #12 on: October 24, 2018, 10:25:51 PM »
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  • Bishop Slupski was Consecrated a Bishop by Most Rev. Robert McKenna. 

    Fr. Angel