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John Grace · « **Reply #15 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:24:56 AM »

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Regarding the Brompton Oratory, Dr Krah stated
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My favourite church. Whenever I'm in London, I come for a while

It's my favourite church too, and I'd pop in if in the area; but I wouldn't go there for Mass.

Whose side are you on?

padrepio · « **Reply #16 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:26:33 AM »

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Bishop Fellay has always been bad news so who cares about him? Sadly few in the SSPX have had the courage to speak their mind.

Fr. Pfeiffer once gave a sermon which stated the first crusades was started by children. They didn't give a thought to what they needed to fight and just started off. They didn't make it very far, but the effort helped the men gain the courage they needed. In another battle, the women actually had to prod their men to go and fight. It's a matter of not giving up and keeping up the fight, even if things go unnoticed or ignored.

Fr. Chazal mentioned, while at our Resistance Chapel, that it was shocking that so little of a response was made regarding Bishop Williamson's expulsion. It makes no difference if we are ignored "man proposes, God disposes" ; we will keep up the battle on our end. There are still enough people in the pews, or on the streets who need to know the Truth.

John Grace · « **Reply #17 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:35:43 AM »

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Bishop Fellay has always been bad news so who cares about him? Sadly few in the SSPX have had the courage to speak their mind.

Fr. Pfeiffer once gave a sermon which stated the first crusades was started by children. They didn't give a thought to what they needed to fight and just started off. They didn't make it very far, but the effort helped the men gain the courage they needed. In another battle, the women actually had to prod their men to go and fight. It's a matter of not giving up and keeping up the fight, even if things go unnoticed or ignored.

Fr. Chazal mentioned, while at our Resistance Chapel, that it was shocking that so little of a response was made regarding Bishop Williamson's expulsion. It makes no difference if we are ignored "man proposes, God disposes" ; we will keep up the battle on our end. There are still enough people in the pews, or on the streets who need to know the Truth.

It's not about big numbers nor do I think people should charge out and fight without a strategy. I don't give a hoot what Bishop Fellay or Fr Angles think of me.

I think at this stage people have moved on from the Bishop being expelled. It was necessary to facilitate the deal.

John Grace · « **Reply #18 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:45:56 AM »

Though to keep the thread on topic what part of Canon Law was used in relation to the "excommunication" from the Church of Bishop Fellay?

Wessex · « **Reply #19 on:** March 21, 2013, 06:18:24 AM »

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Regarding the Brompton Oratory, Dr Krah stated
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My favourite church. Whenever I'm in London, I come for a while

It's my favourite church too, and I'd pop in if in the area; but I wouldn't go there for Mass.

Whose side are you on?

Clare pops in when she is visiting Harrods.

As for The Crow, did he not get the brush-off once when crashing Wimbledon with a German reporter? Anyway, the UK crowd would be too politically incorrect for him .... and he could always bump into the Blairs at the Oratory!

Seriously, the hybrid atmosphere there would be more to Krah's taste and I dare say to much of the German SSPX. That sense of history without commitment sustains those with careers to pursue.

John Grace · « **Reply #20 on:** March 21, 2013, 08:03:46 AM »

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Clare pops in when she is visiting Harrods.

As for The Crow, did he not get the brush-off once when crashing Wimbledon with a German reporter? Anyway, the UK crowd would be too politically incorrect for him .... and he could always bump into the Blairs at the Oratory!

Seriously, the hybrid atmosphere there would be more to Krah's taste and I dare say to much of the German SSPX. That sense of history without commitment sustains those with careers to pursue.

True. There is solid resistance in the London chapels and rightly so.

Krah is more suited to the Oratory and the Rorate Caeli blog world of Catholicism. I'm not sure of their position on the mini skirt. Krah laments a world without wine, Israel and the mini skirt.

I know an Indult girl who studied at King's College London and certainly is one who dresses modestly. I have never seen Trad Catholics wear mini skirts.

John Grace · « **Reply #21 on:** March 21, 2013, 08:11:10 AM »

Whilst on the topic of the Brompton Oratory, I met Fr Rupert McHardy a few years ago. A girl I know in London attends the Brompton Oratory and runs the Path Less Taken blog. She writes for the Catholic Herald. When she lived in Ireland she attended the SSPX but has now gone 'Indult'.She does a bit of work with the Good Counsel Network in London. I'm not a fan of that group as they attacked the SSPX and I doubt very much they share the mindset of Bishop Williamson. Asking someone their opinion on the Bishop is a good way to distinguish a friend from a foe.

Raphaela · « **Reply #22 on:** March 21, 2013, 05:39:30 PM »

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Regarding the Brompton Oratory, Dr Krah stated
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My favourite church. Whenever I'm in London, I come for a while

It's my favourite church too, and I'd pop in if in the area; but I wouldn't go there for Mass.

Whose side are you on?

Silly comment.

duck2050 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 22, 2013, 06:16:42 AM »

Here's a Krah photo from his trip to London 8 February 2012.
He took it down 8 hours after he posted it.
Maybe they went to Mass with him?

John Grace · « **Reply #24 on:** March 22, 2013, 07:53:19 AM »

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Quote from: clare
Quote from: John Grace
Regarding the Brompton Oratory, Dr Krah stated
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My favourite church. Whenever I'm in London, I come for a while

It's my favourite church too, and I'd pop in if in the area; but I wouldn't go there for Mass.

Whose side are you on?

Silly comment.

You do realise I am joking?

Ethelred · « **Reply #25 on:** March 22, 2013, 08:05:29 AM »

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The 1st link mentions Dr Krah. Is it true that when in London he goes to the London Oratory for Mass and not the FSSPX? He has several photographs from inside it.

Sometimes Krah visits his wife, who since several years is seriously ill (IIRC cancer or something like that) and hence she's often in a specialty hospital in a German town. When Mr Krah's visit is on the weekend and it's Sunday, Mr Krah doesn't attend the nearby SSPX chapel which offers a Latin Mass, but he attends the town's Newchurch "service".

This information comes from a SSPX priest who talked with the wife.
So it's just one source, and I'd have to cross-check the information in case some are interested in more details.

Btw, the young women sitting to the left of Krah in the following photograph, is not his wife:

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Here's a Krah photo from his trip to London 8 February 2012.
He took it down 8 hours after he posted it.
Maybe they went to Mass with him?

Since some of these friends on the photo are Jews including the Scarface Mossad "buddy" (just click photo to enlarge it and see the names), what kind of "Mass" would this be: a ѕуηαgσgυє service?

The surname "Krah" in some East German areas originates from the Czechoslovakian area and is a typical Jєωιѕн surname there. But more important is the fact that Krah is not a traditional Catholic at all, but a modernist and Judaizer. Just study some of his thousands of Internet postings (most of them in German language). Unfortunately I did.

duck2050 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 22, 2013, 08:29:24 AM »

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Btw, the young women sitting to the left of Krah in the following photograph, is not his wife:

- No it is Oren Heiman's wife.

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Since some of these friends on the photo are Jews including the Scarface Mossad "buddy" (just click photo to enlarge it and see the names), what kind of "Mass" would this be: a ѕуηαgσgυє service?

- An interfaith ecuмenical "Mass". The sort where a bunch of EMBA Global graduates sit around and worship Usury & Mammon.

For the curious here is everyone identified from left to right :

The Phong Nguyen http://fr.linkedin.com/pub/the-phong-nguyen/2/5b6/bb6

Randi Brodsky http://de.linkedin.com/pub/randi-brodsky/21/263/70

Tal Shapsa (Oren's wife, remember that wedding Krah attended in Israel)

Maximilian Krah http://de.linkedin.com/in/maximiliankrah

Oren Heiman http://www.linkedin.com/pub/oren-heiman/7/a3b/29b

Alexander Romanov http://ru.linkedin.com/pub/alexander-romanov/18/508/b8a

hollingsworth · « **Reply #27 on:** March 22, 2013, 10:13:08 AM »

ethelred:

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Sometimes Krah visits his wife, who since several years is seriously ill (IIRC cancer or something like that) and hence she's often in a specialty hospital in a German town. When Mr Krah's visit is on the weekend and it's Sunday, Mr Krah doesn't attend the nearby SSPX chapel which offers a Latin Mass, but he attends the town's Newchurch "service".

This information comes from a SSPX priest who talked with the wife.
So it's just one source, and I'd have to cross-check the information in case some are interested in more details.

What do you mean "visits his wife?" Where does he live permanently? Does his wife live in a house or apartment owned or rented by Krah? I have to wonder why this man would not be living with or very near his (hopitalized?) wife in order to care for her and watch over her.
Can anyone pinpoint exactly where Krah lives? I mean, is he resident usually at Menzingen? Does he have frequent business dealings with +Fellay, and can an ongoing business relationship be verified? Does he have an office in Menzingen, perhaps? I don't think I've ever seen, (or rarely seen) Krah photographed with +Fellay or other sspx priests. He's always in the company of other friends and associates. And it's always at some function, or some restaurant somewhere, or it's in a place or gathering identified as an Israeli facility or event of some kind. I would just like to see some evidence that totally verifies or strongly suggests a working relationship between +F and Max.

Ethelred · « **Reply #28 on:** March 22, 2013, 10:40:08 AM »

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ethelred:
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Sometimes Krah visits his wife, who since several years is seriously ill (IIRC cancer or something like that) and hence she's often in a specialty hospital in a German town. When Mr Krah's visit is on the weekend and it's Sunday, Mr Krah doesn't attend the nearby SSPX chapel which offers a Latin Mass, but he attends the town's Newchurch "service".

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What do you mean "visits his wife?"

... when she has to be in the specialty hospital because of her hard and long-time illness, he's visiting her.

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I don't think I've ever seen, (or rarely seen) Krah photographed with +Fellay or other sspx priests.

Well, I've no informations about this currently, because the Swiss SSPX district is Bp. Fellay's heartland and difficult to investigate. Alas, from the many Swiss Catholic clerics and laymen I know not a single one is against the sellout. (But honour to whom honour is due: the brave Carmel in Brilon, Germany, consists of five sisters with two being Swiss-Germans including Mother Superior!)

When I last checked the Jaidhof/Austria and Stuttgart/Germany informants (one or two years ago, before I lost interest) they said repeatedly that Krah was visiting the German and Austrian SSPX headquarters on a regular basis, and was meeting SSPX priests there including the district superiors.

For your, Hollingsworth, other questions I don't have answers, yet. And I'm not sure if they're important anymore, because the Neo-SSPX is lost, and Krah and his Jєωιѕн backers succeeded. We're exiled. Which however can help us in getting closer to Our Lord. Like St. Athanasius said about the Arians: They have the Church buildings but we have the faith.

P.S. Thanks Duck2050 for the informations.

sedetrad · « **Reply #29 on:** March 22, 2013, 10:48:04 AM »

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Alexander Romanov

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Is he an heir of the last tsar?