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padrepio · « **on:** March 19, 2013, 07:16:36 PM »

BLOG ADMINISTRATORS non possumus Italy, "Excommunicated" of SSPX

Go to link for latest information:

http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2012/10/maximiliano-krah-y-la-fundacion-jaidhof.html

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** March 20, 2013, 06:18:29 AM »

Quote from: padrepio

BLOG ADMINISTRATORS non possumus Italy, "Excommunicated" of SSPX

Go to link for latest information:

http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2012/10/maximiliano-krah-y-la-fundacion-jaidhof.html

Maybe you used the wrong link, because I can't find a word on that page about
the blog administrators of non possumus being punished by anyone.

John Grace · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2013, 07:57:31 AM »

Or are they excommunicated from the Church of Bishop Fellay?

John Grace · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2013, 08:01:10 AM »

A google translation below.

http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.ie/2013/03/administradores-del-blog-non-possumus.html

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Tuesday, March 19, 2013
BLOG ADMINISTRATORS non possumus Italy, "Excommunicated" of SSPX

Our friends and fellow combatants, and Anna Rita Cruccas Gianluca Onofri, received a call from the District Superior of Italy, Don Pierpaolo Petrucci, to inform his "excommunication" of the Chapels of the Fraternity and the prohibition of receiving the sacraments. They are accused of slander against the Superior General of the Fraternity, Bishop Fellay.

Gianluca and Anna Rita replied to Don Petrucci Non Possumus via your blog. This is the link to this response, which is worth reading. As we can, we try to make the translation of this excellent article, meanwhile, we settle for the Google translation gives us a pretty good idea of his defense.

We join our colleagues in this situation, and we make a recognition because they have surrendered.

A priest of the fraternity, in an article by the then antimodernisme, says:

Pray that these " bad times "imitate know the strength and freedom of the early Christians who were not" secret disciples of Jesus for fear of the Jєωs "(John 19, 38) in contrast to the crowd that" no expressed freely for fear of the Jєωs (John 7, 13).

Posted by Non Possumus at 12:07

padrepio · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2013, 08:03:05 AM »

I think the link is from the googled translation page. If you mouse on the picture of ABL it takes you to the homepage and scroll down. I'm on a touchpad now, but will cut and paste as soon as I get to my computer.

John Grace · « **Reply #5 on:** March 20, 2013, 08:08:24 AM »

The 1st link mentions Dr Krah. Is it true that when in London he goes to the London Oratory for Mass and not the FSSPX? He has several photographs from inside it.

Yet here are those faithful to the way of Archbishop Lefebvre being "excommunicated". I would rejoice.

I won't receive communion in the SSPX now and am well aware that Fr Angles is moving in to attempt denying the sacraments.They are thugs.

John Grace · « **Reply #6 on:** March 20, 2013, 08:13:57 AM »

Hopefully those who turned a blind eye or switched off to El Krahgate and other matters are now more vocal. What people could do is another debate but still SSPX laity were poor in handling it.

There was a pathetic silence in the past. Start showing some teeth to these priests, who "excommunicate". It's changing now to a degree but SSPX laity were very poor in replying. Inform yourself of what is going on. I don't accept that people don't know. It's far too convenient.

John Grace · « **Reply #7 on:** March 20, 2013, 08:19:50 AM »

Even on this forum there are still those who take Bishop Fellay seriously. Most people in Britain and Ireland laugh when his name is mentioned. It rarely is.

Folk should rejoice when "excommunicated" or have fun if summoned to court for "slander". They would soon regret it. I wouldn't take Bishop Fellay seriously at all.

Bishop Fellay, his business partner Krah and others seem very threatened that they resort to "excommunicating" It's rather silly.

John Grace · « **Reply #8 on:** March 20, 2013, 08:43:10 AM »

Regarding the Brompton Oratory, Dr Krah stated

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My favourite church. Whenever I'm in London, I come for a while

Yet SSPX folk are punished for wishing to remain true to the heritage of the Archbishop.

padrepio · « **Reply #9 on:** March 20, 2013, 09:35:40 AM »

Sorry about the confusion from links. My computer is set to translate automatically, and it seems the google translation page doesn't link the correct article. When I previewed the link it came up with correct article, but I'm guessing that was a temporary link. So, it seems I managed to derail my own posts. Thank God for patient people.

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Our friends and fellow combatants, and Anna Rita Cruccas Gianluca Onofri, received a call from the District Superior of Italy, Don Pierpaolo Petrucci, to inform his "excommunication" of the Chapels of the Fraternity and the prohibition of receiving the sacraments. They are accused of slander against the Superior General of the Fraternity, Bishop Fellay.

Gianluca and Anna Rita replied to Don Petrucci Non Possumus via your blog. This is the link to this response, which is worth reading. As we can, we try to make the translation of this excellent article, meanwhile, we settle for the Google translation gives us a pretty good idea of his defense.

We join our colleagues in this situation, and we make a recognition because they have surrendered.

A priest of the fraternity, in an article by the then antimodernisme, says:

Pray that these " bad times "imitate know the strength and freedom of the early Christians who were not" secret disciples of Jesus for fear of the Jєωs "(John 19, 38) in contrast to the crowd that" no expressed freely for fear of the Jєωs (John 7, 13).

John Grace · « **Reply #10 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:12:32 AM »

I'm not clear how you want us to conclude, padrepio? I mean people were warning about Bishop Fellay in the 1980s so I am not shocked by that bureaucrat. Hollingsworth made a good comment on another thread. I fall short of agreeing that Bishop Fellay does not care for salvation of souls. What we do know is he is one for self interest.

There seems to be outrage now that good sorts are being "excommunicated" by the Church of Bishop Fellay. Was there outrage when William of Norwich made his/her posting?

Bishop Fellay has always been bad news so who cares about him? Sadly few in the SSPX have had the courage to speak their mind.

When I put a number of questions to them in Menzingen via the telephone they went very quiet.

Again people may disagree but I don't take Bishop Fellay seriously.

stgobnait · « **Reply #11 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:19:29 AM »

I TAKE BF SERIOUSLY, VERY VERY SERIOUSLY.......

clare · « **Reply #12 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:22:01 AM »

Quote from: John Grace

Regarding the Brompton Oratory, Dr Krah stated
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My favourite church. Whenever I'm in London, I come for a while

It's my favourite church too, and I'd pop in if in the area; but I wouldn't go there for Mass.

John Grace · « **Reply #13 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:22:24 AM »

I was given out to before for stating SSPX folk are cowards. I feel sorry for those taken in by Bishop Fellay and Menzingen. The facts speak for themselves. I leave it in your hands to draw your own conclusions. Arguing about it is a waste of time. Some are not willing to see the wood from the trees regarding Bishop Fellay and Menzingen.

John Grace · « **Reply #14 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:23:38 AM »

Quote from: stgobnait

I TAKE BF SERIOUSLY, VERY VERY SERIOUSLY.......

That is your problem. I don't take him seriously at all.