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Offline SeanJohnson

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Another mystery prelate?
« on: July 21, 2019, 03:37:26 PM »
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    Re: Another mystery prelate?
    « Reply #1 on: July 21, 2019, 08:01:57 PM »
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    • I think that's Fr. du Chalard.

    The article gives him some key actions, and nobody else in that picture has enough grey hair. 
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    Re: Another mystery prelate?
    « Reply #2 on: July 21, 2019, 08:05:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: Stanley N on July 21, 2019, 08:01:57 PM
    I think that's Fr. du Chalard.
    Fr. du Chalard is the priest in the pic.
    But who is the prelate in red at left in choir?
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    Re: Another mystery prelate?
    « Reply #3 on: July 21, 2019, 08:11:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on July 21, 2019, 08:05:29 PM
    Fr. du Chalard is the priest in the pic.
    But who is the prelate in red at left in choir?
    I would guess someone from the diocese. Another article says diocesan priests were there (I think this is the same event):
    https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/2-americans-make-professions-consoling-sisters-sacred-heart-italy-39067

    I thought you were asking about the officiating priest due to the red.
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    Re: Another mystery prelate?
    « Reply #4 on: July 22, 2019, 12:41:20 AM »
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    • Good pick up, Stanley. How explain the red cassock Fr du Chalard is sporting behind the lace of the alb? Some special indult for certain priests in Italy??
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    Re: Another mystery prelate?
    « Reply #5 on: July 22, 2019, 06:06:12 AM »
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    • Hmm...that IS a good pick-up.

    In fixating on the prelate in red, I hadn't noticed Fr. du Chalard's own red vestment.

    Well, they made Fr. Cottier a Cardinal for his role in subverting Tradition in Campos.

    Perhaps Fr. du Chalard has also been quietly rewarded?
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    Re: Another mystery prelate?
    « Reply #6 on: July 22, 2019, 07:43:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on July 22, 2019, 06:06:12 AM
    Perhaps Fr. du Chalard has also been quietly rewarded?
    I'm not sure if that's a red cassock. In that picture, as well as the last photo from your original link (outside the church), his cassock sleeves appear to be black. It could be the alb has red inserts.

    Red albs were used in Medieval times, but they were not necessarily restricted to bishops.

    So this could be a practice or an indult that English-speaking countries are not familiar with, like blue vestments which are allowed in Spain on Marian feast days.
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    Re: Another mystery prelate?
    « Reply #7 on: July 22, 2019, 10:50:22 AM »
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    • Quote from: Stanley N on July 21, 2019, 08:11:59 PM
    I would guess someone from the diocese. Another article says diocesan priests were there (I think this is the same event):
    https://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/2-americans-make-professions-consoling-sisters-sacred-heart-italy-39067

    I thought you were asking about the officiating priest due to the red.
    The date on this is 2018 and this was covered back then in a thread. 
    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/6-diocesan-priest-serve-at-sspx-altar/

    Wouldn’t surprise me if there were more but not announcing it. Apparently those “resisters” watch everything they do in fine detail. 
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    Re: Another mystery prelate?
    « Reply #8 on: July 22, 2019, 12:18:09 PM »
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    • The priest/prelate is wearing a black biretta in this picture. He is on the far-right in this group photo, behind the two nuns wearing the Crown of Thorns.  I'm not sure why he would be wearing a episcopal-colored mozzetta though (if that's what it even is):

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    Re: Another mystery prelate?
    « Reply #9 on: July 22, 2019, 06:38:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: cath4ever on July 22, 2019, 12:18:09 PM
    The priest/prelate is wearing a black biretta in this picture. He is on the far-right in this group photo, behind the two nuns wearing the Crown of Thorns.  I'm not sure why he would be wearing a episcopal-colored mozzetta though (if that's what it even is):
    Many canons wear mozzettas of various colors as part of their habit. At least some groups of Augustinians wear a violet mozzetta.
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