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  • I know someone that goes to St Anthony of Padua SSPX in NJ that's been telling the parishioners that he was being sɛҳuąƖly abused by another ex parishioner for 1 and a half years. The victim is a former altar boy there. He is being open with his experiences and is pursuing legal action. He says he was sɛҳuąƖly abused through manipulation, fear tactics, harassment, impure touching, and trying to be persuaded  by the perpetrator to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

       The victim was convinced to open up about these incidences after the second scandal that occurred in Post Falls ID. he is getting a lot of support from the parishioners and he is feeling a bit better.

      It seems like the pastor wants to keep it hush hush from what I hear through my sources there.


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    « Reply #1 on: July 29, 2016, 02:47:28 PM »
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  • If you mean the chapel of the late Fr. Wickens, that is an indult and has been since he died. I believe that chapel had been willed to the SSPX but the indult parishioners turned it over to the diocese. Christ the King priests now serve it.

    When it was first taken over, Fr Perricone was the first priest and he brought (then) Fr. Tetherow, his good friend, to assist him. In fact, that is where  (then) Tetherow was arrested for downloading the child porn.

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    « Reply #2 on: July 29, 2016, 02:52:18 PM »
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    If you mean the chapel of the late Fr. Wickens, that is an indult and has been since he died. I believe that chapel had been willed to the SSPX but the indult parishioners turned it over to the diocese. Christ the King priests now serve it.

    When it was first taken over, Fr Perricone was the first priest and he brought (then) Fr. Tetherow, his good friend. In fact, that is where  (then) Tetherow was arrested for downloading the child porn.



    This occurred in the SSPX one that broke off of Father Wickens church due to the fight after his death. Why so many sɛҳuąƖ abuse cases in SSPX churches? It's sickening. Now there's a reported case there

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    « Reply #3 on: July 29, 2016, 03:22:51 PM »
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  • SSPX just wants to cover these things up.

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    « Reply #4 on: July 29, 2016, 03:31:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: Maria Auxiliadora
    If you mean the chapel of the late Fr. Wickens, that is an indult and has been since he died. I believe that chapel had been willed to the SSPX but the indult parishioners turned it over to the diocese. Christ the King priests now serve it.


    Funny you should mention Institute of "Christ the King" priests --
    Google "Fr. Timothy Svea" who was a priest in that organization.
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    « Reply #5 on: July 29, 2016, 03:33:36 PM »
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  • Tradlover, so, they also named it St. Anthony's? That is confusing.
    Indeed. It is sickening specially from Catholics you trust. More than ever we thank God we home schooled 20+ years and all our daughters home school because it's hard to entrust you children to anybody these days. But happening within the SSPX? God help us.

    Edit: just saw your last reply which answered my question.
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    « Reply #6 on: July 29, 2016, 03:34:38 PM »
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    If you mean the chapel of the late Fr. Wickens, that is an indult and has been since he died. I believe that chapel had been willed to the SSPX but the indult parishioners turned it over to the diocese. Christ the King priests now serve it.


    Funny you should mention Institute of "Christ the King" priests --
    Google "Fr. Timothy Svea" who was a priest in that organization.


    There is an ICK Church with same name which is the original church where Father Wickens was.  That went indult and now there's a St Anthony's in North Caldwell which is SSPX. The SSPX one is where said abuse occurred last year

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    « Reply #7 on: July 29, 2016, 03:37:12 PM »
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    Tradlover, so, they also named it St. Anthony's? That is confusing.
    Indeed. It is sickening specially from Catholics you trust. More than ever we thank God we home schooled 20+ years and all our daughters home school because it's hard to entrust you children to anybody these days.


    It's sickening.  Right after post falls the victim admitted but the pastor is saying  to keep it quiet from  parishioners already know about this.  The victim, a former altar boy


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    « Reply #8 on: July 29, 2016, 06:33:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: tradlover
    I know someone that goes to St Anthony of Padua SSPX in NJ that's been telling the parishioners that he was being sɛҳuąƖly abused by another ex parishioner for 1 and a half years. The victim is a former altar boy there. He is being open with his experiences and is pursuing legal action. He says he was sɛҳuąƖly abused through manipulation, fear tactics, harassment, impure touching, and trying to be persuaded  by the perpetrator to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

       The victim was convinced to open up about these incidences after the second scandal that occurred in Post Falls ID. he is getting a lot of support from the parishioners and he is feeling a bit better.

      It seems like the pastor wants to keep it hush hush from what I hear through my sources there.


    "another ex-parishoner" - who in the world was that ?

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    « Reply #9 on: July 29, 2016, 06:38:02 PM »
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    I know someone that goes to St Anthony of Padua SSPX in NJ that's been telling the parishioners that he was being sɛҳuąƖly abused by another ex parishioner for 1 and a half years. The victim is a former altar boy there. He is being open with his experiences and is pursuing legal action. He says he was sɛҳuąƖly abused through manipulation, fear tactics, harassment, impure touching, and trying to be persuaded  by the perpetrator to be a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.

       The victim was convinced to open up about these incidences after the second scandal that occurred in Post Falls ID. he is getting a lot of support from the parishioners and he is feeling a bit better.

      It seems like the pastor wants to keep it hush hush from what I hear through my sources there.


    "another ex-parishoner" - who in the world was that ?


    My mistake.  The perpetrator is an ex parishioner.  Victim is current parishioner

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    « Reply #10 on: July 30, 2016, 01:36:10 AM »
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  • Has any of this been verified?

    Anyone can go sign up and post this.

    If true, it is absolutely horrific but otherwise what good is it for a person to post what he was allegedly told my someone else.

    The Post Falls incident(s) could be substantiated (e.g. Fr. Vassal's resignation etc...) but this new case is supposed to be accepted right away?


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    Has any of this been verified?

    Anyone can go sign up and post this.

    If true, it is absolutely horrific but otherwise what good is it for a person to post what he was allegedly told my someone else.

    The Post Falls incident(s) could be substantiated (e.g. Fr. Vassal's resignation etc...) but this new case is supposed to be accepted right away?


    Unfortunately it's true.  I know this from the victim himself who told me and other parishioners have discussed this with me. I'm not lying.  The whole parish is aware practically.  Priest wants to keep it quiet.

    It is all verified. It's not a rumor

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    « Reply #12 on: July 30, 2016, 03:35:26 PM »
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  • I don't understand what you're saying the SSPX is supposed to be doing at this point.

    It sounds like they had no knowledge of the situation when it was happening and now the victim is an adult and already pursuing this legally.

    The offender is already out of the picture and any efforts to determine if there were any other victims would need to be discreet so as not to damage the reputation of an accused man who has not been proven guilty. (If you've never been falsely accused of something, thank God! Because, all we have here right now is one man's word against another and the OP seems to be friends with one of the parties.)

    At this point this sounds more like prudence on the part of the priests than it does a cover up. Certainly, they should be helping the victim in whatever way they can, but if the victim is an adult now, it's up to him to contact the proper authorities.
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    « Reply #13 on: July 30, 2016, 03:42:59 PM »
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  • Yes, it sounds like a one-off incident (that is to say, ONE perpetrator and ONE victim),  as opposed to the Post Falls scandal, which sounds like more of a plague of corruption/sodomy spreading among the boys there.

    And if the lone accused is no longer part of the parish, why make a big public deal out of it?

    Advertising a scandal like this isn't good for a parish, you realize. Unless the common good requires it, there is no reason to air dirty laundry in public. I'd say this is a great example of a case where you DON'T need to make it public.

    Scandals are eaten up by worldly people for some reason -- entire magazines make their living off the public's appetite for gossip and dirty laundry.

    But Catholics look at scandals differently. For example, say you know about a priest who left the priesthood. It's a fact, publicly verifiable with evidence and everything.

    Such a scandal is like a pile of dung. When you encounter a pile of dung, you can do two things: avoid it, or step in it. It's not pleasant, so why parade it around, step on it, and smear it all over yourself? What good is accomplished by doing this? Few people will be edified by it, and no one will be protected by smearing the dung all over the place. So just leave it be. There is no harm in avoiding said pile of dung.

    When it comes to scandals, the ONLY considerations for a Catholic is:

    A) Is it true
    B) Is it important for people to know -- does the public good REQUIRE it (is it necessary)

    The following are considerations for worldlings but NOT for Catholics:

    C) Is it interesting or titillating
    D) Does it make me feel better about myself
    E) Does it tweak my curiosity
    F) Does it get me out the "funk" that is my own boring, dissatisfying life?
    G) Does it provide a psychologically "healthy" escape/distraction from the problems in my own life?


    Think about those points. Think of the average person who actually reads gossip magazines, and ask yourself if A and B really apply. Of course they don't. It's usually lies, and it certainly doesn't help the public good to know the sordid details of this or that failed celebrity relationship.

    People buy those gossip magazines for reasons C) through G).
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    « Reply #14 on: July 30, 2016, 05:24:11 PM »
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    Yes, it sounds like a one-off incident (that is to say, ONE perpetrator and ONE victim),  as opposed to the Post Falls scandal, which sounds like more of a plague of corruption/sodomy spreading among the boys there.

    And if the accused is no longer part of the parish, why make a big public deal out of it?

    Advertising a scandal like this isn't good for a parish, you realize. Unless the common good requires it, there is no reason to air dirty laundry in public. I'd say this is a great example of a case where you DON'T need to make it public.

    Scandals are eaten up by worldly people for some reason -- entire magazines make their living off the public's appetite for gossip and dirty laundry.

    But Catholics look at scandals differently. For example, say you know about a priest who left the priesthood. It's a fact, publicly verifiable with evidence and everything.

    Such a scandal is like a pile of dung. When you encounter a pile of dung, you can do two things: avoid it, or step in it. It's not pleasant, so why parade it around, step on it, and smear it all over yourself? What good is accomplished by doing this? Few people will be edified by it, and no one will be protected by smearing the dung all over the place. So just leave it be. There is no harm in avoiding said pile of dung.

    When it comes to scandals, the ONLY considerations for a Catholic is:

    A) Is it true
    B) Is it important for people to know -- does the public good REQUIRE it (is it necessary)

    The following are considerations for worldlings but NOT for Catholics:

    C) Is it interesting or titillating
    D) Does it make me feel better about myself
    E) Does it tweak my curiosity
    F) Does it get me out the "funk" that is my own boring, dissatisfying life?
    G) Does it provide a psychologically "healthy" escape/distraction from the problems in my own life?


    Think about those points. Think of the average person who actually reads gossip magazines, and ask yourself if A and B really apply. Of course they don't. It's usually lies, and it certainly doesn't help the public good to know the sordid details of this or that failed celebrity relationship.

    People buy those gossip magazines for reasons C) through G).


    In that case please remove this post. I regret posting it