Author Topic: Analysis of the Rome-SSPX deal - by Fr Cekada (Read 15653 times)

Anthony M · « **Reply #5 on:** May 10, 2012, 07:32:22 PM »

Real issue is this my friends.

Fr. Cekada and the other self appointed popes all feel threatened by this agreement with Rome. Why you might ask? Well, simply because they only exist or stand because of the SSPX and the Archbishop to a great extent. They can reasonably foresee that if all works out well with Rome and the SSPX they might in the future have much of an income and anyone left to pontificate upon.

As to a split with the other Bishop's of the SSPX - Sorry that isn't going to happen either. Regardless of what some may think of Bishop Fellay on a personal level, as such the other bishops will go along with him (so long as no compromise on the faith is required, and that is what has already been guaranteed).

How can I be so sure of that you might ask? Well read the letter of the three bishops. It doesn't say that we intend to leave or depart from the SSPX if it is approved by Rome. They simply state their caution on such dealings.

What is more is that the other bishops themselves had already by the standards of the hard liners on this list already compromised long ago once they signed the docuмent asking the Holy Father to remove the excommunications, which contradictory enough they claimed they didn't acknowledge as being a just excommunication. So were they not seeking Conciliar approval already by that act?

The other 3 Bishops did not make an outcry against the doctrinal discussions did they?
And so now to presume that they are totally against a recognition by Rome is madness/wishful thinking.

What is more is that the greater number of the SSPX are right behind bishop Fellay as far as seeking legal recognition of work of the SSPX even if they might not personally think much of Fellay himself. It is not a personal issue here.

Stubborn · « **Reply #6 on:** May 10, 2012, 08:02:48 PM »

I do not understand all of this - and I may be completely wrong about the possible outcome (I do not think there will be "a deal" that SSPX will agree to) - but is it just me or has everyone gone batty about this?

Here we have an ex-SSPX priest with absolutely no axe to grind [/sarcasm] doing a preliminary analysis of the "SSPX deal". What deal?

Where is everyone getting all the latest inside information from and what's next?

Anthony M · « **Reply #7 on:** May 10, 2012, 08:30:38 PM »

Stubborn,

You are on the mark. People on this forum, as like so many others have gone nutty and are doing exactly what the devil wants to see - division and discord. Maybe a sign of there inner shallowness perhaps?

And yes, who gives the heck what a dishonest money grabbing self appointed pope and former SSPXer like Fr. Cekada has to say! I am sure he want what is best for the SSPX ? He wouldn't be using this as an opportunity to sow discord and bring people to his party line. I would find that very hard to imagine?

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #8 on:** May 10, 2012, 08:33:44 PM »

Anthony M, did you read what Matthew wrote? He made it clear that he is not a supporter of Fr. Cekada, yet he agrees with his analysis. As do I.

Stubborn · « **Reply #9 on:** May 10, 2012, 09:00:23 PM »

Quote from: Anthony M

Stubborn,

You are on the mark. People on this forum, as like so many others have gone nutty and are doing exactly what the devil wants to see - division and discord. Maybe a sign of there inner shallowness perhaps?

Well I certainly understand the interest, but this whole thing has gone from talks between SSPX and Rome for the purpose of converting Rome - to the SSPX is going to forget the last 45 years entirely and join up with the modernist crooks for the sake of joining up with modernist crooks! I mean WTH?

Quote from: Anthony M

And yes, who gives the heck what a dishonest money grabbing self appointed pope and former SSPXer like Fr. Cekada has to say! I am sure he want what is best for the SSPX ? He wouldn't be using this as an opportunity to sow discord and bring people to his party line. I would find that very hard to imagine?

C'mon, no need to disrespect Fr. C. He is a priest, none of us know where we would be today if we had to pass through the same trials he had to pass through - and I am no sede but he IS a priest and should be shown proper respect.

He certainly has some deep SSPX scars is my guess - goes with the territory imo, but I am sure he would not shed a tear if the SSPX were to crumble tomorrow - and seems like a lot of trads feel the same way.

At any rate, the rumors, statements and gossip are unsubstantiated - yet are successful in sowing confusion - --- kinda like a replay of the 70s when the modernist media swayed whoever fell for their lying bs, and I just hope folks realize that no one really knows what's going to happen - - - - but we do know that +Fellay said that they would accept a deal if Rome accepts SSPX as they are - and he sent them that same exact reply two times.

IMO, all Rome is doing now is rehearsing more lying bs to fool whoever they can manage to fool yet again by declaring that the SSPX in one way or another finally compromised - - - - - - of course they'll word it in a convincing way...............or they'll do whatever - who knows?