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Here is a peek at a post in the IA forum linked in the OP by donkath
(I have added the quote boxes using the CI codes). Needless to
say, IA would never approve my application for membership, so
there is really no point in my trying. Even if they would approve it,
I'd be banned on the first or second post. My comments inserted:
Posted: Jul 10 2013, 05:19 AM
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QUOTE (tradical @ Jul 10 2013, 03:34 AM)
QUOTE (BennyBosco @ Jul 9 2013, 09:23 PM)
Either the docuмents are wrong and full of heresy or they are not. Why would they not just say so!
[**See below**]
Why not just say no?
Here, it's anyone's guess whether t.radical is making a typo carelessly,
whether he's making yet another blunder without knowing it, or if
he's rather making a ridiculous attempt at what he thinks to be humor.
In Los Angeles, under the longtime Freemason Darryl Gates as Chief of
Police, he had a school program for children where LAPD officers would
visit schools to make friends with the kids, called the D.A.R.E. program,
and one of its mottos was "Just say 'no' to drugs." I met a Freemason
who showed me stamps from 30 years prior to that where the Masons
had the motto, "Just Say No," enshrined in a design - but it had nothing
to do with children, drug abuse, or policemen.
I'm not implying that t.radical is a Freemason. I wouldn't do that!
First the SSPX is not some spoiled modernist child that is upset because it isn't getting its way.
True to form, t.radical hits the ground running with a fundamental error.
The ExSPX is precisely this: it has BECOME a spoiled child of Modernism
that is upset because it isn't getting its way. HEBF* and the Menzingen-
denizens are TERRIFIED of the Resistance because it puts the spotlight
on their lies, subversive agenda and nefarious schemes for all to see - that
is, those with eyes to see, unlike t.radical, for instance. For to him, it's
the blind leading the blind and they both fall into the pit. (cf. Matt. xv. 14).
"If any man have ears to hear, let him hear" (Mk. vii. 16).
And, for those without ears to hear, because they refuse to listen to
the sermons and lectures of Fr. Pfeiffer,
perhaps the greatest preacher
in the world today (cf. cantatedomino Posted on IA: Jul 9 2013, 05:27 PM),
then, like I said, they'll just fall into the pit along with the Menzingen-
denizens and their demigod, HEBF*.
Second, just refusing point blank accomplishes NOTHING. It is necessary to explain why you are rejecting something.
Continuing in his steadfast error, t.radical presumes from the start that
others are doing what in fact he himself does even while (like his elder
brothers the Zionists typically do) he hurls accusations of same against
them. For t.radical
'refuses point blank' to even so much as listen to the
conferences of Fr. Pfeiffer, although I'll grant him credit for admitting the
truth of it.
Doing so, he accomplishes nothing, even though he refuses to see it
as such, for to him, the goal is to further bury himself in his bottomless
pit of UNKOWING, the same one in which the likes of Immanuel Kant was
eternally lost, and deliberately so, by willful, pertinacious contempt of the
truth.
He thinks he's explaining why he rejects the sermons and speeches of Fr.
Pfeiffer, even while he consistently exposes for all to see why he wants
nothing to do with them -- he can't stand to hear cogent arguments
against his demigods. Plain and simple.
Third, the position of the SSPX is not that the docs of V2 are 'full of heresy'.
Again, t.radical doesn't bother to pay any attention to the words of
the Founder of the SSPX, unless, of course, it's convenient. He sifts
through everything looking for snips that can be misinterpreted and
then uses them for his false support of HEBF* and the Menzingen-
denizens. He attempts to equate the malformed new ExSPX with the
Society of ABL, just as he fails to recognize Newchurch for the
apostate gang of doctrinal criminals that it is, according to the actual
words of ABL and not according to the newfangled misinterpretation
and false re-packaging of him proffered by the ExSPX.
As always the extreme position is comforting in its generalization but not the truth.
In typical Liberal Doublespeak, t.radical describes himself and his cohorts,
his "comrades" (a Soviet favorite term), being comforted by their extreme
position of subverting the Society from within. Only in the most general
terms is their generalization comforting to them while the demolish the
bastions like the wreckovationists post Vat.II did in accord with the
same unclean spirit of Vat.II, which is objectively working for the devil,
and has no truck with the truth.
The truth is that the SSPX has always classified the docuмents into three sets: Traditional, Ambiguous, and contradicting prior magisterium.
Here, again, t.radical piles error on top of error, and pridefully so.
The truth is, that the SSPX has always classified the docuмents of
Vat.II into
three sets: Traditional (vaguely stated usually, or at least
proximate to ambiguous terms that can mean different things to different
people or at different times, and occasionally well stated "insomuch as to
deceive (if possible) even the elect" (Matt. xxiv. 24);
Ambiguous (which
constitutes the vast majority of everything in Vat.II's docuмents, as it
was permeated with the unclean spirit that haunted even the ancients
for it is the same unclean spirit cursed by the saints);
and contradicting
the Magisterium. (This might well be t.radical's worst error, because,
there has never been, in the HISTORY OF HOLY MOTHER CHURCH,
any such thing as a "prior magisterium."
Of course, saying that to the likes of t.radical is like trying to convince
a blank wall of a logical truth by way of presenting it by logical argument.
He won't even recognize what a logical argument is. He'll accuse you of
being "hateful" because you're "argumentative," and therefore
"disobedient" to the "legitimate authority of the SG" even though HEBF*
has no jurisdiction and no authority whatsoever over any of the Faithful
unless they're 3rd Order members.
There is but ONE Magisterium in
the Church, and the very fact that what poses today as "the
magisterium" -- by way of the deception that was actually quite
successful for a number of years and still persists to this day, that the
'magisterium' is some collection of men who have offices in the Vatican
or whatever -- has
convinced the lemmings like t.radical to believe
the LIE that there was a "previous magisterium" that is somehow
out of date now, and has been replaced with the "current
magisterium" is a MOST PERNICIOUS LIE that does INFINITE DAMAGE
to the truth of God, in fact, it destroys all of religion, as Pope Saint Pius
X so well explained in
Pascendi Dominici Gregis, the landmark encyclical
of 106 years ago, something that t.radical has never read, or, if he has
(he would be lying to say he has) he did not understand it, or if he
thinks he understood it, he has deliberately chosen to misunderstand it
so as to then claim that 'everything's fine' and the ExSPX is
'back to
normal'.God bless!
The extreme position is comforting, I admit.
Are you ready to go to your [particular judgment] and explain why Vatican II isn't all that bad and full of heresy?
Sorry, Benny, I realize you mean well, but in truth, at our own
particular judgment, we won't be standing there ready, willing and
able to EXPLAIN SQUAT. We will have nothing to answer for. Our
crimes, our unrepentant sins, our pride, our pertinacious refusal of
God's graces -- they'll all be as so many chains locked to our arms
and legs and waist, as so many meat hooks into our very flesh.
There will be no opportunity for escape or appeal to a 'higher court'.
At our particular judgment the pernicious errors and heresies of
Vat.II will be plain as day and there will be no mistake. Our fallen
penchant to take sides with the errors and heresies of Vat.II and
the unclean spirit that goes along with it like baggage on a train
will be inseparable, much to our misfortune.
The time is NOW to unload the BAD BAGGAGE of the unclean spirit
of Vatican II, before it's too late, and
Judgment Day is too late.
Catholics have always seen [the abiding principle, as being only] one error [is all it takes to make it] contaminating [of] the whole thing. 99% Catholic is NOT Catholic, it's Heresy!
We accuse the council.
Ave Maria,
God bless you as well, thank you.
**BELOW**
Returning to the very start:
QUOTE (BennyBosco @ Jul 9 2013, 09:23 PM)
Either the docuмents are wrong and full of heresy or they are not. Why would they not just say so!
This is an excellent question by BennyBosco, and it is key. He was
trying his best to ask it, but immediately fell prey to the diversionary
tactics of the troll radical, t.radical.
Why indeed would they not just say so!? In typical Liberal fashion, and
under the rules for troll radicals by Saul Alinsky, they would not just say
so because they had no intention of EVEN saying so. They do not mean
to say that the docuмents of Vat.II are wrong and full of heresy. However,
they know that in order to garner the would-be support of those who
ought to be their opponents, the Traditional Catholics, these troll radicals
in Menzingen, the Menzingen-denizens, birds of a feather with t.radical
on IA (he might even be one of them!!! - think about that in your spare
time!!), they need to APPEAR AS IF THEY ARE SAYING SO, even while
they proceed to actually say quite the opposite, as Fr. Pfeiffer tries to
explain in this talk. He is making great strides toward this bad doctrine
and is ever-so-close to pronouncing it, but he restrains himself because
it would likely be misinterpreted as passing judgment on the intention
of the Menzingen-denizens, which is the same thing the sedevacantists
do toward the neo-Modernists like B16 and Francis.
If they wanted to say that the docuмents of Vat.II are wrong and full
of heresy, they would say it. But they do not say it and they choose to
say something vaguely reminiscent of a thing that might be able to be
construed as saying something like that, so as to deceive insomuch as
it were possible, even the elect (cf. Matt. xxiv. 24).
This is the same reason (see above) that the docuмents of Vat.II have
many traditional propositions in them, so that the council fathers could
be swayed into thinking that 'everything's okay' and that the farm is
safe from vandals and the treasury of the Church is not being robbed
in plain sight.
They do not SAY SO and they in fact say SOMETHING ELSE because
they are deceiving and conniving and malevolent destroyers of the
Faith of Catholics. And it is high time they are recognized for what
they are in fact. They are the enemy. And the most merciful thing to
do is to call them out and face them off and to make war with their
bad ideas and their evil philosophy.
This is war. And war is "not nice."
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