Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: An Interview with Bishop Vitus Huonder - sspx.org  (Read 901 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline MarcelJude

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 133
  • Reputation: +152/-1
  • Gender: Male
    • h
TradCathSermon
.
.
.


Offline Giovanni Berto

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 623
  • Reputation: +449/-28
  • Gender: Male
Re: An Interview with Bishop Vitus Huonder - sspx.org
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2021, 09:48:33 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • It is interesting to hear more from His Excellency.
    I didn't read the whole thing attentively, but some of His Excellency's answers seem to confirm that he is there for a reason, and not just for retirement.
    Quote
    And then, of course, what was decisive, was the request that had been made to me, as to whether I would be ready to dialogue with the Society, like other bishops throughout the world. This happened around 2014. I said yes. That was especially close to my heart. So I made contact, started this dialogue, and from there I was able to develop a deeper knowledge of the issue. I then became involved in everything that concerned the Society and Tradition, and I realized that I absolutely had to continue on this path. And finally, I was persuaded that I had to deepen this contact with the Society, which I did by choosing Wangs for my episcopal retirement. This choice was even welcomed by the Holy Father. He confided to a priest: “It is good, what he is doing there.”

    Quote
    Yes, I have chosen it deliberately. That clearly shows the evolution I spoke to you about. I have also said that this Society—I do not want to appear presumptuous—that this Society may also need me. And I would like to give my support to the Society. This was truly the thought that guided me, when I was making this choice. There are also other reasons: I thought that it would be good for me to find an environment where there are young people, to keep me in shape a little—which is not always easy, because the simple fact of walking is already difficult for me. It is important for me to come to an environment where I can sense that the faith is still young.

    Also, he provides the school boys with doubtful sacraments and questionable preaching:
    Quote
    These are rather discreet activities, but above all prayer and daily Mass. This is very important for all priests and more so for a bishop. I also have contact with the students. Limited contacts, one could say: I sometimes hear the students confessions, I sometimes also visit a catechism class or teach a religion course myself. That is rather rare, but it happens. And as I live in community with the priests of the house, I talk to them. I have at times given a conference, which gives me the opportunity to immerse myself in Holy Scripture, which is very close to my heart. I have always held it in high esteem and I have, moreover, devoted a doctoral thesis to it. As you can see, there are small tasks of this kind or the occasional help in a priory to celebrate Mass and to preach. Here too, I preach from time to time. All these activities keep me busy


    We already knew most of this, but it is interesting to see Bp. Huonder himself confirming these rumours.


    Offline SeanJohnson

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 15064
    • Reputation: +9980/-3161
    • Gender: Male
    Re: An Interview with Bishop Vitus Huonder - sspx.org
    « Reply #2 on: October 01, 2021, 09:54:04 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • From beginning to end, +Huonder is explaining that he chose to retire at the SSPX school in Wangs (you know, the Bishop pictured with altar girls was already so traditional, he could only be happy there).

    Pardon me, but what a bunch of crap!

    As my book docuмented at the time:

    “Kath.net continues:

    "This step is linked to a mission that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome entrusted to Bishop Vitus: to maintain contact with the Fraternity of Saint Pius X," said Giuseppe Gracia. The acceptance of the resignation of the Bishop of Chur should take place around Easter."

    And as Francesca de Villasmundo of the French media outlet Medias-Presse Info (MPI) observes:

    "If we understand Mr. Garcia's comments correctly, the coming of the conciliar Bishop Huonder to the priestly Fraternity founded by the traditionalist Bishop Mgr Lefebvre to preserve Catholics from the spirit of Vatican II is therefore done in consultation and with the approval of modernist Rome, the objective being to "maintain contact" between the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Society of Saint Pius X. This new approach of Rome is probably part of the rapprochement, or rallying, in stages that Pope Francis wants to achieve.”

    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/catalog-of-compromise-change-and-contradiction-in-the-sspx/15/


    In short, +Huonder didn’t “choose” to go to Wangs, except in the sense of obeying orders:

    He was sent there by Rome.
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 31183
    • Reputation: +27098/-494
    • Gender: Male
    Re: An Interview with Bishop Vitus Huonder - sspx.org
    « Reply #3 on: October 02, 2021, 12:20:14 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • As my book docuмented at the time:

    “Kath.net continues:

    "This step is linked to a mission that the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith in Rome entrusted to Bishop Vitus: to maintain contact with the Fraternity of Saint Pius X," said Giuseppe Gracia. The acceptance of the resignation of the Bishop of Chur should take place around Easter."

    And as Francesca de Villasmundo of the French media outlet Medias-Presse Info (MPI) observes:

    "If we understand Mr. Garcia's comments correctly, the coming of the conciliar Bishop Huonder to the priestly Fraternity founded by the traditionalist Bishop Mgr Lefebvre to preserve Catholics from the spirit of Vatican II is therefore done in consultation and with the approval of modernist Rome, the objective being to "maintain contact" between the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and the Society of Saint Pius X. This new approach of Rome is probably part of the rapprochement, or rallying, in stages that Pope Francis wants to achieve.”

    https://www.cathinfo.com/sspx-resistance-news/catalog-of-compromise-change-and-contradiction-in-the-sspx/15/


    In short, +Huonder didn’t “choose” to go to Wangs, except in the sense of obeying orders:

    He was sent there by Rome.

    If only MORE people had read your book, maybe Tradition wouldn't be in the sorry shape it's in today.

    Regarding your quote above -- so few could see this truth at the time.

    Not many more can see it, even now a couple years later.

    Only many years later, in hindsight, will everyone say, "Yeah, that's obvious!" and then everyone will be on board -- well, almost everyone. Some will still deny the truth even when it slaps them in the face.
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    Paypal donations: matthew@chantcd.com

    Offline SeanJohnson

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 15064
    • Reputation: +9980/-3161
    • Gender: Male
    Re: An Interview with Bishop Vitus Huonder - sspx.org
    « Reply #4 on: October 02, 2021, 06:05:10 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Commentary from the Non Possumus Blog:

    http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2021/10/la-neo-ffspx-publica-una-entrevista-al.html?m=1

    “As we know, it is because of his open combat against the current and nefarious Pope and the Modernists in general, that the Neo-FSSPX carefully avoids any rapprochement with Viganò, promoting, instead, contacts with any conservative prelate who does not openly attack Francis, as is the case of Bishop Huonder, a declared friend of the Argentine Pope (and inventor of the "Day of Judaism", by the way and among other merits).

    Note, readers, how in the interview published yesterday, October 1, by the FSSPX, Hounder is careful not to make the slightest criticism of Pope Bergoglio or Vatican II. He goes to the laughable extreme of attributing the responsibility for the Motu Proprio Traditionis Custodes to Bergoglio's advisors, thus exculpating his friend. 

    ... "they convinced me that I had to deepen this contact with the Society, which I did by choosing Wangs for my episcopal retreat. This choice was even welcomed by the Holy Father. He confided to a priest: 'It is good what you are doing there.'"
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


    Offline SimpleMan

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 4383
    • Reputation: +1628/-194
    • Gender: Male
    Re: An Interview with Bishop Vitus Huonder - sspx.org
    « Reply #5 on: October 02, 2021, 10:07:08 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Commentary from the Non Possumus Blog:

    http://nonpossumus-vcr.blogspot.com/2021/10/la-neo-ffspx-publica-una-entrevista-al.html?m=1

    “As we know, it is because of his open combat against the current and nefarious Pope and the Modernists in general, that the Neo-FSSPX carefully avoids any rapprochement with Viganò, promoting, instead, contacts with any conservative prelate who does not openly attack Francis, as is the case of Bishop Huonder, a declared friend of the Argentine Pope (and inventor of the "Day of Judaism", by the way and among other merits).

    Note, readers, how in the interview published yesterday, October 1, by the FSSPX, Hounder is careful not to make the slightest criticism of Pope Bergoglio or Vatican II. He goes to the laughable extreme of attributing the responsibility for the Motu Proprio Traditionis Custodes to Bergoglio's advisors, thus exculpating his friend. 

    ... "they convinced me that I had to deepen this contact with the Society, which I did by choosing Wangs for my episcopal retreat. This choice was even welcomed by the Holy Father. He confided to a priest: 'It is good what you are doing there.'"


    Oh, brother, give me a break!  :facepalm:

    Is the Pope not a free agent?  Could he not just have told his advisors, "nice try, guys, but I'm not signing off on this".  Moreover, he defended his decision in one of those horrible "airplane interviews".

    Offline Meg

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 6173
    • Reputation: +3147/-2941
    • Gender: Female
    Re: An Interview with Bishop Vitus Huonder - sspx.org
    « Reply #6 on: October 03, 2021, 07:13:13 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!1
  • It's possible that Bp. Huonder actually believes that he is an advocate of Tradition. He does explain his defense of Tradition in the OP article. However, the SSPX evidently has not corrected Bp. Huonder; since the Neo-SSPX appears to have the same watered-down version of Tradition that Bp. Huonder has. It's not all Bp. Huonder's fault. The SSPX allowed him to move to the SSPX, and the current leadership of the SSPX, unfortunately, has the same mindset as Bp. Huonder.

    The SSPX (leadership, mainly) has moved far, far away from the good example of Archbishop Lefebvre.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29