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An Inconvenient Bishop: The Truth About Richard Williamson
« on: November 27, 2012, 11:47:21 AM »
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  • An Inconvenient Bishop:
    The Truth About Richard Williamson

    by Edwin Faust
    November 27, 2012

    The Church has become increasingly solicitous of its public image. The media applauded Pope John XXIII, who wanted to open the windows of the Church to let in the air of the modern world. But the Church has paid a high price for that short-lived media approbation, and the breeze of modernity has swept her into the shifting winds of public opinion.

    Whatever Bishop Richard Williamson’s differences may be with the leadership of the Society of St. Pius X, any honest assessment of his ultimate expulsion from the SSPX would have to begin with the incident that caused his superior to remove him from public ministry and sequester him.

    Bishop Williamson is of the opinion that gas chambers were not used in the extermination of Jєωs by the nαzιs during World War II. He accepts the conclusions of a disputed scientific study known as the Leuchter Report. Consequently, His Excellency thinks the number of Jєωs killed in the camps may be closer to one and half million rather than six million. He said as much during an interview with Swedish television conducted in Germany.

    This opinion is really what has made Richard Williamson a problem for the SSPX and its supporters who want a deal with the Vatican. Bishop Williamson has been tried and found guilty of h0Ɩ0cαųst Denial under German law. He has, unofficially, been found guilty of being inconvenient to the SSPX and the Holy See.

    His Excellency’s expulsion from the SSPX was consummated in October. It was immediately followed by an announcement from Vatican officials that negotiations with the SSPX were not at an end or a standstill, as formerly thought, but that patience was needed and hope for a reconciliation very much alive. Coincidence?

    Jєωιѕн organizations that maintain relations with the Vatican denounced the lifting of the excommunications of the SSPX bishops, noting that a “h0Ɩ0cαųst denier” was among them. The pope’s spokesman said the Holy Father did not know of Bishop Williamson’s remarks at the time of the decree, implying that such knowledge may have affected the lifting of the excommunications.

    Without weighing in on the merits of Bishop Williamson’s opinion about the Leuchter Report, is it not pertinent to ask what that opinion has to do with the Catholic Faith? Must one subscribe to a particular version of history to be qualified to practice an episcopal ministry within the Catholic Church? One might also ask: To what extent has ecclesial authority been extended de facto to German courts, Jєωιѕн organizations and the popular media?

    Bishop Williamson was removed as rector of the SSPX seminary in South America and exiled to Wimbledon not for transgressing any statute of his priestly fraternity; not for any infraction of canon law; not for any public or private dissent from the dogmatic teaching of the Church. Bishop Williamson was stripped of his ministry and hidden from public view for being a public-relations problem.

    Had His Excellency recanted his opinion, apologized to all who were ostensibly offended by it, paid his court fine and made his mea culpa to his superior, all might have been well. The problem is: He is an honest man.

    He has not been persuaded that he is wrong in his opinion, and he knows he has not transgressed any discipline or doctrine of the Church. He has continued to speak his mind through his blog site. And he has been forthright in stating his position regarding a deal between the SSPX and the Vatican: He thinks the time has not yet arrived when the SSPX can trust the orthodoxy and honorable intentions of the Roman authorities.

    He opposes the efforts in this direction of his superior, Bishop Fellay, and has called for new leadership in the SSPX. Whether this merits his expulsion from the fraternity is a question best left to the members of that fraternity. But the elimination of Bishop Williamson certainly relieves the SSPX of a public-relations problem and eases any possible deal that may be in the works with an intensely media-sensitive Roman Curia. Of course, what those who welcome Bishop Williamson’s expulsion may not realize is that the charge of anti-Semitism will continue to be leveled at the Catholic Church under every possible pretext, for it is the Faith itself that many Jєωs find offensive.

    Anyone who knows Bishop Williamson realizes that his integrity is beyond question, as is his charity. However unpopular his opinions, they are not held out of malice, but out of honest conviction. He may be judged eccentric, even imprudent. But he is Catholic to the core. And this may be the heart of the problem. It is time it was acknowledged.
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    An Inconvenient Bishop: The Truth About Richard Williamson
    « Reply #1 on: November 27, 2012, 12:16:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: Edwin Faust
    Bishop Williamson was removed as rector of the SSPX seminary in South America and exiled to Wimbledon not for transgressing any statute of his priestly fraternity; not for any infraction of canon law; not for any public or private dissent from the dogmatic teaching of the Church. Bishop Williamson was stripped of his ministry and hidden from public view for being a public-relations problem.


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    Anyone who knows Bishop Williamson realizes that his integrity is beyond question, as is his charity. However unpopular his opinions, they are not held out of malice, but out of honest conviction. He may be judged eccentric, even imprudent. But he is Catholic to the core. And this may be the heart of the problem. It is time it was acknowledged.



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    An Inconvenient Bishop: The Truth About Richard Williamson
    « Reply #2 on: November 27, 2012, 12:23:21 PM »
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    Bishop Williamson is of the opinion that gas chambers were not used in the extermination of Jєωs by the nαzιs during World War II. He accepts the conclusions of a disputed scientific study known as the Leuchter Report. Consequently, His Excellency thinks the number of Jєωs killed in the camps may be closer to one and half million rather than six million. He said as much during an interview with Swedish television conducted in Germany.


    As reported here before, that interview was not a "mistake"... it was a set up!

    It has been said that Bishop Fellay and company set that first interview up to trap Bishop Williamson since they know of his strong opinion on the matter. This is backed up by the fact that Bishop Fellay sent the same news crew to England months later to interview Bishop Williamson again.

    Bishop Williamson, of course, declined the interview. Bishop Fellay has been up to evil after evil. It is truly regretable. He needs many prayers for God's wrath is no doubt aimed right at him.


    http://satiricalgoo.blogspot.com/2012/10/that-interview-was-not-mistake-it-was.html

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    An Inconvenient Bishop: The Truth About Richard Williamson
    « Reply #3 on: November 27, 2012, 12:27:33 PM »
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  • Edwin Faust was one of my favorite writers at Catholic Family News and anywhere for that matter. It is interesting that this forthright article was published on Fr. Gruner's website. Let's see if Catholic Family News also prints it. This is the first mainline trad that has come out to speak clearly in defense of a great man, the last bishop left that does not have a yellow streak running through his spine.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 27, 2012, 12:33:29 PM »
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  • Actually, the CFN website linked to it. That's how I found it.
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    « Reply #5 on: November 27, 2012, 12:43:35 PM »
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    Actually, the CFN website linked to it. That's how I found it.


    I know that CFN's  John Venarri and Fatima priest Fr. Gruner, have worked very closely for years. Let's see if it is published in the Catholic family News monthly (CFN) newspaper hard copy edition. If not, it will be very telling.

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    An Inconvenient Bishop: The Truth About Richard Williamson
    « Reply #6 on: November 27, 2012, 01:09:05 PM »
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    Quote from: Quo Vadis Petre
    Actually, the CFN website linked to it. That's how I found it.


    I know that CFN's  John Venarri and Fatima priest Fr. Gruner, have worked very closely for years. Let's see if it is published in the Catholic family News monthly (CFN) newspaper hard copy edition. If not, it will be very telling.


    Bowler, much as I so often agree with you, it is at least remotely possible we might differ on this very point, much to my regret.

    It was the CFN that awakened me to the fact that there even was a Trad movement, years and years ago.  So, I'll happily admit my favortism on its behalf.

    However, newspapers are NOT SUPPOSED to admit, nor allow to infuse, any form of favortism.  Instead, being instruments of objective fact-finding and well-researched reporting of same, their purpose is simply and only THAT - reporting.

    Politicizing and demagoguery are the province of coffee klatsches, fora and, of course, the 99.9999999% of OTHER secular and "religious" newspapers.

    Clearly, Ed Faust's article is editorial.  It is not "news", much as I agree with him.

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    An Inconvenient Bishop: The Truth About Richard Williamson
    « Reply #7 on: November 27, 2012, 01:20:46 PM »
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    Edwin Faust was one of my favorite writers at Catholic Family News and anywhere for that matter. It is interesting that this forthright article was published on Fr. Gruner's website. Let's see if Catholic Family News also prints it. This is the first mainline trad that has come out to speak clearly in defense of a great man, the last bishop left that does not have a yellow streak running through his spine.

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    Quote from: Quo Vadis Petre
    Actually, the CFN website linked to it. That's how I found it.


    I know that CFN's  John Venarri and Fatima priest Fr. Gruner, have worked very closely for years. Let's see if it is published in the Catholic family News monthly (CFN) newspaper hard copy edition. If not, it will be very telling.




    Bowler, much as I so often agree with you, it is at least remotely possible we might differ on this very point, much to my regret.

    It was the CFN that awakened me to the fact that there even was a Trad movement, years and years ago.  So, I'll happily admit my favortism on its behalf.

    However, newspapers are NOT SUPPOSED to admit, nor allow to infuse, any form of favortism.  Instead, being instruments of objective fact-finding and well-researched reporting of same, their purpose is simply and only THAT - reporting.

    Politicizing and demagoguery are the province of coffee klatsches, fora and, of course, the 99.9999999% of OTHER secular and "religious" newspapers.

    Clearly, Ed Faust's article is editorial.  It is not "news", much as I agree with him.


    You are correct, it is an editorial, and the reason why I said "Let's see if it (Faust's editorial) is published in the Catholic family News monthly (CFN) newspaper hard copy edition" was because this was all that was published in CFN about Bp. Wlliamson's expulsion:

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    Bishop Williamson Expelled from the SSPX

    By John Vennari

    October 24: It is confirmed from Menzingen today that Bishop Richard Williamson has been expelled from the Society of Saint Pius X. The news fills me with great sadness.

    This break has been coming for some time; it is one of those tragic events one sees in advance yet is powerless to prevent.

    I never forget a kindness, and Bishop Williamson had been good to me over the years. Though we have not communicated as often since his departure from Winona in 2003, I still owe him a debt of gratitude. In the mid 1990s, in highly unusual circuмstances, I was able to study at-a-distance for the priesthood for two years through the Winona seminary, which Bishop Williamson made possible. Though I did not follow through to the priesthood, the formation I received was invaluable.

    I am also grateful for him introducing Dr. David Allen White to us all, since we learned about Dr. White through his magnificent lectures on Shakespeare at Winona
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    The root cause of this latest discord, of course, is the crisis in the Church caused by the Second Vatican Council, which has been a source of division even among good men.

    It is not my intention to step in between warring factions, as in cases like this there are often faults on both sides and it is not my mission to root out all the details. Further, I have been in the traditionalist movement for 32 years and have seen how ugly these fights can become. Yes, I too scratched my head at some of Bishop Williamson’s recent words and actions, and I believe the infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview was a mistake, yet I will not join in the blanket condemnations against him. As for all else, I will keep my own counsel.

    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    This is a very fast and changing situation within the SSPX....One moment there are those who stand for one thing, and then for another.  Somewhat like a rollercoaster ride, and we need to be buckled in tight.  I hope that helps for everyone who is looking for more information, updates, and whatever is reported here or there.  Follow the Truth, prayer and action - with Truth foremost.









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    An Inconvenient Bishop: The Truth About Richard Williamson
    « Reply #8 on: November 27, 2012, 01:22:28 PM »
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    An Inconvenient Bishop:
    The Truth About Richard Williamson

    by Edwin Faust
    November 27, 2012

    The Church has become increasingly solicitous of its public image. The media applauded Pope John XXIII, who wanted to open the windows of the Church to let in the air of the modern world. But the Church has paid a high price for that short-lived media approbation, and the breeze of modernity has swept her into the shifting winds of public opinion.

    Whatever Bishop Richard Williamson’s differences may be with the leadership of the Society of St. Pius X, any honest assessment of his ultimate expulsion from the SSPX would have to begin with the incident that caused his superior to remove him from public ministry and sequester him.

    Bishop Williamson is of the opinion that gas chambers were not used in the extermination of Jєωs by the nαzιs during World War II. He accepts the conclusions of a disputed scientific study known as the Leuchter Report. Consequently, His Excellency thinks the number of Jєωs killed in the camps may be closer to one and half million rather than six million. He said as much during an interview with Swedish television conducted in Germany.

    This opinion is really what has made Richard Williamson a problem for the SSPX and its supporters who want a deal with the Vatican. Bishop Williamson has been tried and found guilty of h0Ɩ0cαųst Denial under German law. He has, unofficially, been found guilty of being inconvenient to the SSPX and the Holy See.

    His Excellency’s expulsion from the SSPX was consummated in October. It was immediately followed by an announcement from Vatican officials that negotiations with the SSPX were not at an end or a standstill, as formerly thought, but that patience was needed and hope for a reconciliation very much alive. Coincidence?

    Jєωιѕн organizations that maintain relations with the Vatican denounced the lifting of the excommunications of the SSPX bishops, noting that a “h0Ɩ0cαųst denier” was among them. The pope’s spokesman said the Holy Father did not know of Bishop Williamson’s remarks at the time of the decree, implying that such knowledge may have affected the lifting of the excommunications.

    Without weighing in on the merits of Bishop Williamson’s opinion about the Leuchter Report, is it not pertinent to ask what that opinion has to do with the Catholic Faith? Must one subscribe to a particular version of history to be qualified to practice an episcopal ministry within the Catholic Church? One might also ask: To what extent has ecclesial authority been extended de facto to German courts, Jєωιѕн organizations and the popular media?

    Bishop Williamson was removed as rector of the SSPX seminary in South America and exiled to Wimbledon not for transgressing any statute of his priestly fraternity; not for any infraction of canon law; not for any public or private dissent from the dogmatic teaching of the Church. Bishop Williamson was stripped of his ministry and hidden from public view for being a public-relations problem.

    Had His Excellency recanted his opinion, apologized to all who were ostensibly offended by it, paid his court fine and made his mea culpa to his superior, all might have been well. The problem is: He is an honest man.

    He has not been persuaded that he is wrong in his opinion, and he knows he has not transgressed any discipline or doctrine of the Church. He has continued to speak his mind through his blog site. And he has been forthright in stating his position regarding a deal between the SSPX and the Vatican: He thinks the time has not yet arrived when the SSPX can trust the orthodoxy and honorable intentions of the Roman authorities.

    He opposes the efforts in this direction of his superior, Bishop Fellay, and has called for new leadership in the SSPX. Whether this merits his expulsion from the fraternity is a question best left to the members of that fraternity. But the elimination of Bishop Williamson certainly relieves the SSPX of a public-relations problem and eases any possible deal that may be in the works with an intensely media-sensitive Roman Curia. Of course, what those who welcome Bishop Williamson’s expulsion may not realize is that the charge of anti-Semitism will continue to be leveled at the Catholic Church under every possible pretext, for it is the Faith itself that many Jєωs find offensive.

    Anyone who knows Bishop Williamson realizes that his integrity is beyond question, as is his charity. However unpopular his opinions, they are not held out of malice, but out of honest conviction. He may be judged eccentric, even imprudent. But he is Catholic to the core. And this may be the heart of the problem. It is time it was acknowledged.



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    « Reply #9 on: November 27, 2012, 01:29:47 PM »
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    Edwin Faust was one of my favorite writers at Catholic Family News and anywhere for that matter.


    It seems to me Edwin Faust writes more as a novelist, and I have always enjoyed his articles when he wrote for the Angelus.  At some point his articles were no longer published - I don't know why.  However, over time the Angelus began publishing articles that were more difficult to read.  When people complained the editor stated Catholics needed to read articles at a higher level of understanding even if it was difficult for them.  It was stated in one of the previous Angelus' magazines, but I don't remember which one.

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  • Once it was the liturgy that informed the Society, then it was doctrine, then a canonical solution ..... and now it is world politics that motivates decisions and actions. We must also not forget the role of big money in all this.


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  • The "reconciliation" between the SSPX and Masonic Rome will no doubt be much more likely with Bishop Williamson out of the picture.

    The treatment that +Williamson has received from Bishop Fellay since the "h0Ɩ0cαųst interview" has been quite dispicable.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 27, 2012, 03:09:17 PM »
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    The treatment that +Williamson has received from Bishop Fellay since the "h0Ɩ0cαųst interview" has been quite dispicable.


    It can be no other way as in reality, Bishop Fellay doesn't control the 'pious union'. Perhaps I am on another 'dimension' for stating this.

    With the Jєωs controlling the Society is Bishop Fellay in any position to counter the enemies of God? Hardly. International Jєωry have him (Bishop Fellay) He is compromised.

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    It was the CFN that awakened me to the fact that there even was a Trad movement, years and years ago.  So, I'll happily admit my favortism on its behalf.


    Well The Remnant was the first newspaper for me, to further familiarise myself with the trad movement. (I already knew of it from parents whom I had not followed).

    CFN is gone the way of The Remnant.
     
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    It is not my intention to step in between warring factions, as in cases like this there are often faults on both sides and it is not my mission to root out all the details. .... Yes, I too scratched my head at some of Bishop Williamson’s recent words and actions, and I believe the infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview was a mistake, yet I will not join in the blanket condemnations against him. As for all else, I will keep my own counsel.


    How's that for a just summary of the situation? So JV is prepared to find fault with +W but not with +F's atrocious and uncatholic behaviour. How's that for "tradition"?

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    « Reply #14 on: November 27, 2012, 03:33:05 PM »
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    It was the CFN that awakened me to the fact that there even was a Trad movement, years and years ago.  So, I'll happily admit my favortism on its behalf.


    Well The Remnant was the first newspaper for me, to further familiarise myself with the trad movement. (I already knew of it from parents whom I had not followed).

    CFN is gone the way of The Remnant.
     
    John Vennari said,
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    It is not my intention to step in between warring factions, as in cases like this there are often faults on both sides and it is not my mission to root out all the details. .... Yes, I too scratched my head at some of Bishop Williamson’s recent words and actions, and I believe the infamous “h0Ɩ0cαųst” interview was a mistake, yet I will not join in the blanket condemnations against him. As for all else, I will keep my own counsel.


    How's that for a just summary of the situation? So JV is prepared to find fault with +W but not with +F's atrocious and uncatholic behaviour. How's that for "tradition"?



     :applause:

    I couldn't have put it better myself.

    That is why I'm done with CFN. No more subscription nor any products will be coming from them to my mailbox...that's for sure!




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