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Offline Matthew

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An honest question for those inclined against the Resistance
« on: October 06, 2018, 09:04:18 AM »
Can you honestly say the SSPX would rather be acceptable to the Resistance than to Modernist Rome?

If the SSPX had to choose, who would they go with? Pope Francis (the heretic) and the Conciliar (HERETICAL) hierarchy, or Bishop Williamson and the other 3 Resistance bishops?

I believe the answer is obvious. The SSPX preaches much more against the Resistance these days than they do against the Conciliar Church. SSPX Faithful are more likely to think the Indult or even Novus Ordo is OK rather than think going to the local Resistance Mass center is OK.

What does that tell you?

Keeping in mind that the Resistance isn't some kind of heretical group with a new doctrine or denial of some dogma. The Resistance is simply the classic SSPX position, nothing more, nothing less. Why shouldn't the SSPX prefer that to the heretics in Modernist Rome? But I can't say that they do. I think they really prefer Rome with all its heresy.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: An honest question for those inclined against the Resistance
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2018, 10:38:42 AM »
The SSPX preaches much more against the Resistance these days than they do against the Conciliar Church. SSPX Faithful are more likely to think the Indult or even Novus Ordo is OK rather than think going to the local Resistance Mass center is OK.

What does that tell you?

Very astute observation, Matthew.  I agree completely.  It's almost as if they hold the Resistance as being "schismatic" for being in the same position that the SSPX had historically been all along.  This dovetails with +Fellay's recent speech to the effect of, "Hey, look, we're not schismatic [any more?] because Rome says we're not and recognizes us as Catholic."  I was beat up on for finding fault with +Fellay's speech, but that's essentially what he was saying.  And this observation of yours, Matthew, lines up perfectly with that.  It's very hard to distinguish neo-SSPX from ICK or FSSP anymore.


Re: An honest question for those inclined against the Resistance
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2018, 11:08:10 AM »
I suppose that I qualify as "SSPX faithful" since I usually attend Mass at an SSPX centre, but I wouldn't describe myself as "against the Resistance".  I just want to attend the TLM.  

It's true that I would attend a diocesan TLM (technically not an "Indult" since Summorum Pontificuм) but if my only choices were Resistance and Novus Ordo, I probably would choose Resistance.

Re: An honest question for those inclined against the Resistance
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2018, 11:54:21 AM »


It's true that I would attend a diocesan TLM (technically not an "Indult" since Summorum Pontificuм) but if my only choices were Resistance and Novus Ordo, I probably would choose Resistance.
It's nice to have choices.  Mine is novus ordo or nothing.  I tried the novus ordo 20 years ago.  It was horrible then; I can only imagine now.  If I didn't know better, I'd be one of the millions of ex-Catholics going to conservative Protestant "churches" in the wake of Vat. 2.  At least their moral standards are better!  

Offline Matthew

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Re: An honest question for those inclined against the Resistance
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2018, 01:09:40 PM »
I just wonder what the SSPX (officially, or an individual priest locally) would advise their faithful to do in a hypothetical scenario:


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A terrorist attack happens, and planes are grounded for 1 week; afterwards riots and other unrest cause the outage to last 2 weeks longer, for a total of 3 weeks.
A few places in the USA do not have a resident priest, but they do have a Resistance-affiliated chapel close by. Let's say these places have Mass for whatever reason (the priest is stranded there, or Bp. Zendejas does a lot of driving, etc.) These same places ALL have an Indult or FSSP option.
The Internet is still up and running, and so the SSPX is able to advise all its faithful on where they should attend Mass (if at all).

I honestly think the SSPX would advise people to go to the FSSP/Indult, or perhaps advise them to stay home and pray the Rosary, but I can't see them approving attendance at the Resistance-affiliated chapels.

The neo-SSPX fears the Resistance the most, because it represents the SSPX in the past -- and if the Faithful check it out for themselves, they might notice that A) they're not the evil bogeymen that SSPX.org and Angelus Press have made them out to be, B) the chapels are just like SSPX chapels were in the past, C) some things have changed in the SSPX recently, and not for the better.

Needless to say, the SSPX taking such a stand is ridiculous, but reality is reality.