An old aunt sent me the official picture of Pope Francis that is to be displayed at churches, it is signed by him. It says "A Pope for Our Times", I guess that's his logo?
All her friends email each other articles praising Pope JPII, then B16, and now I guess it'll be Francis. Nothing you can say to them, as they are old and will not understand.
It dawned on me to ask them why they think so highly of those popes who were there to teach the faith to all of their children and grandchildren during all of those years, and ALL of them lost the faith! What good were those popes to your family? Had all of those popes never existed, it would have been of no consequence to their children and grandchildren. Totally useless popes.
Of course I can't say that, because it would hurt them to realize that their entire family to the very last are a spiritual disaster. Everyone is divorced multiple times, or married outside of the Church, or living together, and who knows what else.
The Vatican II popes, had they never existed, it would have been of no consequence to all of them.