Author Topic: All one happy family... on SSPX Polish website. (Read 3633 times)

Orinoco · « **on:** June 13, 2013, 02:47:48 AM »

news.fsspx.pl/2013/06/europa-i-usa-zapowiedzi-swiecen-kaplanskich-w-bractwie-sw-piusa-x-i-instytutach-ecclesia-dei

"During the last part of June, in the Priestly Society of St. Pius X will be the celebration of giving major orders to 37 seminarians, 18 of them ordained priests and 19 deacons.

At the seminary of St. Thomas Aquinas in Winona, USA, where ceremonies will be held on Friday, June 21 (the day of the liturgical feast of St. Aloysius Gonzaga, the patron saint of students), 11 deacons will be ordained priests - eight Americans and three Canadians. During the same ceremony six more deacons will be ordained - all from the United States.

On June 28, the eve of the feast of St. Peter and Paul the Apostles, at the seminary of St. Pius X ECONE Switzerland six deacons will be ordained priests - four French and two Italians, and nine subdeacons will become deacons - seven French and two Swiss.

A day later, on the feast of St. Peter and Paul the Apostles, in the seminary of the Sacred Heart of Jesus in Zaitzkofen, Bavaria two deacons will receive priestly ordination - one German and a Pole, from the Dominican monastery in Avrillé. On the same day was four subdeacons - three Poles and one Swiss will be ordained deacons.

At the same time, anumber of deacons and subdeacons belonging to some of the groups affiliated to the Pontifical Commission Ecclesia Dei receive major orders.

June 22 at Santissima Trinita dei Pellegrini - the Roman church of the Fraternity of St Peter - three deacons will receive the priesthood - one Italian and two Australians from the Congregation of the Sons of the Most Holy Redeemer (this is the first ordained granted to the institute for five years, from the time of canonical status and abandon the old identity Transalpine Redemptorists).

On June 29 at the Fraternity of St. Peter's seminary in Wigratzbad, Bavaria five deacons will receive priestly ordination- four French and one Canadian, and on July 1 in Denton, Nebraska, at the North American seminary of the Fraternity, another five.

Finally, on July 4 in Gricigliano in Italy, in the seminary of the Institute of Christ the King Sovereign Priest, five deacons will be ordained priests - all from France (source: dici.org, Rorate-caeli.blogspot.com, 7 and 10 June 2013)."

(Thanks to : http://lefebvristes.forum-box.com/t1799-Le-site-de-la-Fraternite-Saint-Pie-X-de-Pologne-annonce-des-ordinations-Ecclesia-Dei-en-meme-temps-que-celles-de-la-Fraternite.htm)

Francisco · « **Reply #1 on:** June 13, 2013, 05:02:48 AM »

There was no internet in Archbishop Lefebvre's time. He wanted his priests to give catechism classes, give conferences and produce newsletters to warn the faithful about the Post Vatican II crisis. He must be turning in his grave now!

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #2 on:** June 13, 2013, 07:23:47 AM »

Am i reading this right:

The sspx Polish District website is announcing Ecclesia Deign ordination in the same breath as sspx ordinations?

Francisco · « **Reply #3 on:** June 13, 2013, 07:50:00 AM »

After the 2012 General Chapter did not the Superior of SSPX Poland, Fr Karl Stehlin make derogatory remarks about the English District (Fr Morgan?) saying that it made much-ado about nothing at the General Chapter? Don't remember on which forum or where I read it. Must we then be surprised if his website promotes the Ecclesia Dei crowd?.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #4 on:** June 13, 2013, 08:10:01 AM »

The title of this thread should be changed to:

"SSPX Polish District Promotes Ecclesia Dei Ordinations"

John Grace · « **Reply #5 on:** June 13, 2013, 08:47:32 AM »

Pro-Life activism has united both SSPX and Ecclesia Dei in Ireland so many would welcome this.Tradition in Ireland is far too small for such sectarianism.

For many Irish SSPX an 'obstacle' was removed.You need to move on.Leave Williamson to the lunatic fringe.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #6 on:** June 13, 2013, 08:52:11 AM »

Quote from: John Grace

Pro-Life activism has united both SSPX and Ecclesia Dei in Ireland so many would welcome this.Tradition in Ireland is far too small for such sectarianism.

Menzingen would be proud of that statement.

But the SSPX has never promoted tradcuмenism, and vigorously opposed it.

Apparently, as it moves closer to Rome, it no longer has such vigorous objections.

John Grace · « **Reply #7 on:** June 13, 2013, 09:07:06 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson

Quote from: John Grace
Pro-Life activism has united both SSPX and Ecclesia Dei in Ireland so many would welcome this.Tradition in Ireland is far too small for such sectarianism.

Menzingen would be proud of that statement.

But the SSPX has never promoted tradcuмenism, and vigorously opposed it.

Apparently, as it moves closer to Rome, it no longer has such vigorous objections.

Tradcuмenism has been a feature of the prolife movement in Ireland.Many I speak to feel 'Tradition' is too small in Ireland so people tend to support each other.

Very few in Ireland are 100% 'Pius X'.Once you get the Latin Mass it doesn't matter.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #8 on:** June 13, 2013, 08:23:02 PM »

subpallaeMariae · « **Reply #9 on:** June 14, 2013, 12:23:19 AM »

However open-minded the SSPX has become, I doubt their new friends are returning in kind by even daring to whisper of SSPX ordinations on their various websites

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2013, 03:07:41 PM »

Interesting discussion over at IA right now.

I copy/pasted this thread over there under the title "sspx Polish District website promotes Ecclesia Dei Ordinations."

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2013, 03:32:25 PM »

Orinoco-

Can you tell us how you happened to become aware of the URL you supplied?

On IA, they are questioning the authenticity of the URL, and McFarland says the information containing the Ecclesia Dei information is not found on the District website, nor can it be accessed directly from the SSPX website.

He says the information can only be accessed by typing in the specific URL you supplied, from which he concludes the URL and Ecclesia Dei information is a hoax.

Can you shed any light on this?

MaterDominici · « **Reply #12 on:** June 15, 2013, 01:14:33 AM »

Quote from: SeanJohnson

Orinoco-

Can you tell us how you happened to become aware of the URL you supplied?

On IA, they are questioning the authenticity of the URL, and McFarland says the information containing the Ecclesia Dei information is not found on the District website, nor can it be accessed directly from the SSPX website.

He says the information can only be accessed by typing in the specific URL you supplied, from which he concludes the URL and Ecclesia Dei information is a hoax.

Can you shed any light on this?

Whoever shared the original link on this SSPX facebook page must have been "in on it". :rolleyes:

https://www.facebook.com/FSSPXweWroclawiu

MaterDominici · « **Reply #13 on:** June 15, 2013, 01:21:43 AM »

Google must be in on it too. You search for the short, current URL and the first result is the longer one ending in "ecclesia dei". I'm hard pressed to think how that would be there if it weren't the name of the webpage a short time ago.

Orinoco · « **Reply #14 on:** June 15, 2013, 03:13:26 AM »

I found this on the French site : http://lefebvristes.forum-box.com/t1799-Le-site-de-la-Fraternite-Saint-Pie-X-de-Pologne-annonce-des-ordinations-Ecclesia-Dei-en-meme-temps-que-celles-de-la-Fraternite.htm

I do not think that this is a hoax. Just take a look now on the official SSPX Poland homepage :
http://www.piusx.org.pl/

Follow the link to the "news.fsspx.pl" section : "Europa i USA: Zapowiedzi święceń kapłańskich w Bractwie Św. Piusa X" - in second place at the moment.

You will find that the article has now been edited :http://news.fsspx.pl/2013/06/europa-i-usa-zapowiedzi-swiecen-kaplanskich-w-bractwie-sw-piusa-x/

The mention of the the Ecclesia Dei ordinations has disappeared.