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Offline donkath

Re: Advice for Novus Ordo Priests in SSPX Chapels
« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2020, 11:52:04 PM »
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Hello Stubborn,

In the excerpt you posted he says the arguments against validity are substantial enough to permit the possibility of doubt, but he doesn't provide any objective facts that support his assertion.  Nothing that constitutes matter for positive doubts.  I just did a search for the book, but couldn't locate it.   Does he provide any specifics later in the chapter?  

The Book is listed in the Library of CI.
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Advice for Novus Ordo Priests in SSPX Chapels
« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2020, 05:16:05 AM »
Quote from: Praeter on January 06, 2020, 11:46:46 PM
Hello Stubborn,

In the excerpt you posted he says the arguments against validity are substantial enough to permit the possibility of doubt, but he doesn't provide any objective facts that support his assertion.  Nothing that constitutes matter for positive doubts.  I just did a search for the book, but couldn't locate it.   Does he provide any specifics later in the chapter?  
I did not post it but yes, he does go into some specifics in the book, which donkath posted:
Quote from: donkath on January 06, 2020, 11:52:04 PM
The Book is listed in the Library of CI.

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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Advice for Novus Ordo Priests in SSPX Chapels
« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2020, 05:37:55 AM »
Quote from: Praeter on January 06, 2020, 03:27:05 PM
I've been searching far and wide for a reasonable/intelligent/well-educated person to explain why the new rite of episcopal consecration is doubtful, and I haven't found one yet.  On the other hand, I am a reasonable/highly-intelligent (genius level IQ)/well-educated person, and I have concluded that there is no doubt whatsoever about the validity of the rite.  If you know of any positive doubts, I'd like to hear them.
:laugh2:
“I am a reasonable/highly-proud” ........I fixed it for you.
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Offline Stubborn

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Re: Advice for Novus Ordo Priests in SSPX Chapels
« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2020, 05:52:01 AM »
Quote from: Quo vadis Domine on January 07, 2020, 05:37:55 AM
:laugh2:
“I am a reasonable/highly-proud” ........I fixed it for you.
Ya, I forgot to comment on that - but certainly he jests. And I did chuckle lol
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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Advice for Novus Ordo Priests in SSPX Chapels
« Reply #39 on: January 07, 2020, 05:57:30 AM »
Well, if you're a sedeplenist, then you must conclude that the New Rite is unquestionably valid since the doubtful Sacramental Rites simply cannot be promulgated by the Church's authority.

If, on the other hand, you believe that these men are infiltrators bent on destroying the Church, the mere fact that they concocted a brand new rite, and questions about their motivations for doing so, are prima facie evidence for positive doubt ... which is basically what Father Wathen was saying, except, since he's no sedevacantist, there's a problem with his position.  They must have had some REASON for rewriting this Sacramental rite.

Whether or not you believe all the conclusions of Father Cekada's study, there's certainly enough there to constitute positive doubt.  But now we're opposed by the genius, so I think we need to drop everything.
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