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Admittance of intentional Modernist Ambiguity...
« on: June 04, 2013, 05:07:50 PM »
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  • With the ongoing saga in the Catholic Church of the Vatican II crisis, coupled with the saga of the present SSPX crisis, that in order to understand what is the essential root of the problem, and what does it take to straighten out the mess, one has to go to the original source.

    Here, we have Cardinal Kasper, as a high prelate, finally stating the true and real cause of the problem in the crisis of Vatican II:

    "In many places, [the Council Fathers] had to find compromise formulas, in which, often, the positions of the majority are located immediately next to those of the minority, designed to delimit them. Thus, the conciliar texts themselves have a huge potential for conflict, open the door to a selective reception in either direction." (Cardinal Walter Kasper,  L'Osservatore Romano, April 12, 2013).

    So now that we know what the problem is -ambiguous language- within Vatican II, that with a good will it is easy to fix, right?  Or do they really want to fix it…?

    Here, we have Bishop Fellay, as a high prelate in the SSPX, the Superior General himself, stating the true and real cause of the problem in the present crisis of the SSPX:

    “The Doctrinal Declaration of April 15 of last year, drawn up by the Superior General (SG) of the Society of St Pius X as a basis for the Society’s reintegration into the mainstream Church, has emerged nearly one year later into public view. It was designed by the SG to please both the Conciliar Romans and Traditionalists (“It can be read with dark or rose-coloured glasses,” he said in public). It did please the Romans who declared that it represented an “advance” in their direction. It did not please Traditionalists who saw in it (what they knew of it) such ambiguity as to represent a betrayal of Archbishop Lefebvre’s stand for the Catholic Faith, to the point that they considered that the Romans need only have accepted it to destroy his Society.  In fact when the SG met the Romans on June 11 in Rome to receive their decision, he fully expected they would accept it. “  (An excerpt from Number CCC (300), 13 April 2013, DOCTRINAL DECLARATION I, Bishop Williamson).  http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=24073

    “As Bp. Fellay himself said in May or June 2012, the reaction to this text will depend on the disposition of the mind of the person reading it. (“Rose-tinted or dark-tinted spectacles...”).”  (An excerpt from a priest of the SSPX). http://www.therecusant.com/preamblecommentary


    Again, we now know what the problem is -ambiguous language- within the present SSPX crisis, that with a good will it is easy to fix, right?  Or does the SSPX leaders really want to fix it…?

    Do you see any similarities…?

    It must also be added in all of this, that there is another dimension to this, namely, that in this present SSPX crisis, Bishop Fellay also wants us to believe that the ambiguity of Vatican II is really OK; in spite of Cardinal Kasper’s true statement above, that Vatican II was DESIGNED to be ambiguous to fool the people!

    An excerpt taken from Fr. Hewko’s article “Ambiguous Language - The Devil's Quicksand”  http://www.therecusant.com/frhweko-ambiguity):

    1. "Many things which we would have condemned as being from the Council are in fact not from the Council, but the common understanding of it.... The Council is presenting a religious liberty which is in fact a very, very limited one. A very limited one. It would mean our talks with Rome, they clearly said that to mean that there would be a right to error or right to choose each religion, is false." (Superior General CNS Interview May 2012).

    2. "As for the Council, when they asked me the question, 'Does Vatican II belong to Tradition?'" I answered, "I would like to hope that that is the case." (Superior General, DICI 6-8-12)

    3. "Tradition is the LIVING transmission of revelation "usque ad nos" and the Church in its doctrine, in its life and in its liturgy perpetuates and transmits to all generations what this is and what She believes. Tradition PROGRESSES in the Church with the assistance of the Holy Ghost, not as a contrary novelty, but through a better understanding of the Deposit of the Faith" (Doctrinal Preamble, III, [Emphasis mine]

    4."The entire tradition of Catholic Faith must be the criterion and guide in understanding the teaching of the, SECOND VATICAN COUNCIL, which, in turn, ENLIGHTENS - in other words DEEPENS and subsequently makes explicit - certain aspects of the life and doctrine of the Church implicitly present within itself or NOT YET CONCEPTUALLY FORMULATED" ( Doctrinal Preamble, III, 4). [Emphasis mine]


    So there it is, the “Admittance of intentional Modernist Ambiguity” from both the modernist Cardinal Kasper and Bishop Fellay the (Traditionalist?).

    The Pharisees of old showed us that ambiguous language didn't work -to the crucifixion of the Truth.  So where is the good will amongst our Churchmen of today to fix the ambiguous language in order to set things right?

    In the prophecies of La Sallette, does it encompass the SSPX also?

    Sobering thought...when infidelity creeps in, nothing escapes God’s chastisement.

    If you play with the modernist mud, you get dirty…