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« on: November 05, 2015, 06:36:10 PM »
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  • Ms Suzanne Romano has done additional research into the Ambrose case and posted on the other forum.  It supports what has been posted on CI.

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    We are left with quite a few unresolved questions, a massive fabrication, and proof only of Ambrose's long term association with schismatics.

    Consider that Ambrose mounted a Catholic pulpit, turned his back on the Real Presence of Jesus Christ, and lied with impunity. Then he desecrated the altar by impersonating a Roman Catholic Prelate and simulating Catholic ritual worship. He was given permission to do this LONG AFTER Fr. Pfeiffer became aware of his association with schismatics.

    Subsequently scads of information tending to prove that Ambrose is a pathological liar surfaced. Fr. Pfeiffer did the same thing: He invited him to come to Kentucky, allowed him to simulate the Catholic Mass on his altars, and gave him access to his seminarians. This is beyond egregious and sacrilegious. It is so against the laws of reason that one must question Fr. Pfeiffer's sanity.

    I'll have you know that on September 28th, I was able to score Ambrose's phone number. I sent him a text asking his permission to call him. I had in mind to ask him some questions. I received a one word answer in reply: NO. Thus I left him alone.

    On October 19th, out of the clear blue sky, I received a text from Ambrose. Our dialogue follows. Take note that he texted me AFTER I put up my announcement that I left OLMC, and AFTER I blasted OLMC on ABL 2.0. Thus when he refers to my "prayers and support," he speaketh against the truth. My only prayer for him is that he get lost. Here is the dialogue with all spelling and punctuation errors included:

    ________________________________________________________________


    AMBROSE: Thank you for your prayers and support. Will speak with you soon in Kentucky. Investigation completed. Documents and photos authentic. I hope you are happy to know this.

    SUZANNE: Will you be making a public announcement soon?

    AMBROSE: Yes.

    SUZANNE: And does this mean you are moving to Kentucky, or will you do as previously indicated: come once per month?

    AMBROSE: ???

    SUZANNE: I don't understand your question marks. Let me rephrase. What is the character of your official affiliation with the organization in Kentucky?

    AMBROSE: None at this time. There are several traditionalist groups that are requesting my assistance.

    SUZANNE: Will you be saying Mass, and providing ordinations for minor orders and the priesthood for the Kentucky seminary?

    AMBROSE: It would appear so.

    SUZANNE: When will you come snd give tonsure?

    AMBROSE: Up to Fr. Pfeiffer as Rector to request such on his schedule.

    SUZANNE: You said you would speak with me soon in Kentucky. When are you coming?

    AMBROSE: Date not set yet . probably soon.

    SUZANNE: Ok thanks.

    AMBROSE: Will let you know as soon as a date is set.

    SUZANNE: K

    SUZANNE: Are you aware of the fact that you have been rejected as a fraud by priests, bishops, and laity, and that this rejection is pretty much universal? Have you seen the internet?

    Bishop Williamson and Bishop Faure will have nothing to do with you. Fr. Chazal in the Philippines, who is very close to the bishops and priests of the so-called resistance, released a conference last weekend wherein he proclaimed that the priests of the resistance reject you in toto. He said that if Pfeiffer absorbs you, he will die.

    The catholic people of all trad camps reject you. Certainly you are aware of this.

    Fr. Pfeiffer's good name and reputation are not recoverable. He destroyed his credibility over the course of the past three years because of the scandals associated with Pablo. Just as the news of Ambrose hit the internet, Fr. Voigt published his own little tell all. And that's not all. An ex-seminarian is dishing the dirt like it was taco night at the Con Tiki.

    They lost all but one of their seminarians from last year.

    Your absorption into the Ky apostolate is going to put the finishing touches on the implosion-in-progress.

    You are an expert in psychology. Why would you want to involve yourself in a disaster that was a disaster even before you showed up, and that will go to thermite levels at your first ordination ceremony?

    Secondly why does Pfeiffer so love his own death and destruction?

    I'm in all sincerity.

    AMBROSE: Several groups have asked my assistance. Many do not accept SSPX or the bishops who come from that source.

    I am in no wat attached to Kentucky. I have no jurisdiction over Fr. Feiffer or Paul the Mexican. Many people do not trust Fr. Chezal!,

    I have been asked to confirm people who had been confirmed by Archbishop Lefebvre....who doubted his validity and that of the whole SSPX.

    SUZANNE: I'm not even sure that God has jurisdiction over Pfeiffer and his Mexican!!! ☺️

    AMBROSE: I have not requested any contact with these bishops!

    SUZANNE: You are speaking then about certain strains of the sedevacantsists. Correct?

    AMBROSE: I have been helping traditional Catholics for over 40 years...I have jurisdiction. No other trade. [traditional] Bishops or priests have this. I am doing what Patriarch Josef Cardinal Slipyj told me to do. I am not involved with any other jurisdiction.

    Non SSPX resistance priests.

    The documents and photos on the internet are only the tip of the iceburg.

    SUZANNE: How are you going to present your evidence to the public?

    Also will you submit to interrogatories?

    You have an uphill climb with an almost perfectly vertical slope when it comes to making people believe you.

    They will not give you a hearing unless you submit to a public grilling.

    People are gravely offended by the pablo the Amateur Exorcist production videos you participated in.

    What you may not realize is that you are now inextricably linked to pablo the Amateur Exorcist in men's minds. This is not a good thing for any human being, let alone a prelate.

    By your association with Pfeiffer/Pablo you make yourself a laughing stock, and this is exactly what has happened.

    Your reputation is already shot.

    AMBROSE: That is fine. My priests have nothing to do with anything SSPX or Abp. Lefebvre. This is s different reality.

    None of my people behave this way. Gossip is a sin. We do not tolerate this behavior. I have been helping traditionalists for over forty years. We are happy and have the valid sacraments and grace. We focus on our prayer life and not on demonic distractions and factions.

    SUZANNE: But Ky is SSPX and ABL.

    You work for Ky, therefore you are involved with SSPX and all the nastiness that comes with it.

    Ky means endless gossip, endless strife, endless rumors. It is an internet apostolate. They film everything short of using the bathroom. Whatever you do for them will be posted online and then subjected to outraged back lashings.

    Do you have any idea what is being said about Ky all over the world? And this is independent of what you add in to the cauldron.

    Ky is right now being burned in effigy on the internet by outraged Catholics who have just had it with phony clerics and their betrayals, beginning with Fellay and co., and including Williamson/visionary and Pfeiffer/Pablo.

    Have you seen this gem about Pablo which made the rounds two years ago and is still getting play?

    http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/the ... ernandez...

    What happens when some stupid layman with a mental problem starts making believe that he has the spiritual power and authority to perform exorcisms on his own?

    Add in all the tell all's about Pablo from seminarians, priests, and laity and you've got quite an acrid porridge.

    Perhaps you have been told that all these internet fires are "normal," or that this is just lies and persecutions of a godly apostolate.

    But ask yourself this question. There are numerous resistance priests throughout the world and they are never caught up in scandals. They work quietly and diligently. Their reputations are solid and they have a good name. They are taken seriously and they live peaceful lives. They associate with each other and they have the support of Bishop Faure. Why is Ky on the outs with Faure? Is it because they are doing something right or is it because they have gone off the rails?

    Absolutely everything I have said is verifiable by taking one trip to the cathinfo forum.

    Go to cathinfo.com and look at all the threads posted in the resistance section about Ky, Pablo, Pfeiffer, and Ambrose Moran. Then go to the anonymous section and look for the same.

    Read everything there.

    Read it. Study it. Contemplate it. Because wherever you go as an employee of Joseph Pfeiffer, you will have to answer for it.

    It is absolutely impossible that you are a true Prelate of the Roman Catholic Church because no true man of God would ever associate with, work for, or promote the fallen, compromised, controversial, corrupt, and torn apostolate of Joseph Pfeiffer.

    Everyone in the traditional world knows this.

    No one in the traditional could ever bring themselves to take "Pablo's bishop" seriously.

    That is a fact.

    AMBROSE: Thank you for your information.

    My dear friend ..do not focus in these distractions. Focus on the inner life of prayer with Jesus and Our Blessed Mother.

    SUZANNE: Thank you for that counsel. I have chosen exactly this path. I have severed all ties with OLMC. My life and my soul are in the hands of Our Lady.

    My prayer for you is that you retreat and retrace your steps before both God and the devil make a quick work of you.

    AMBROSE: God bless you for your kindness. For forty years I have been working for Church unity in the Catholic faith while protecting the Byzantine rite from heresy and also helping the Latin rite traditionalists who we ten independent of SSPX.

    Fr. Anthony Ward and his priests know who I am. He was the first SSPX superior in the US.

    ___________________________________________________________________

    My conversation with Ambrose took place on October 19th. He showed up in Kentucky on or about October 27th. Kind of interesting, to say the least.


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    « Reply #1 on: November 05, 2015, 06:39:58 PM »
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    On Sunday, September 13th, the day Ambrose simulated Mass at the main altar of OLMC, I sent the following inquiry email to the Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate: http://vkpatriarhat.org.ua/en/


    2015-09-13 5:02 GMT+03:00, Suzanne Romano <suz@bardstown.com>:
    > Greetings in Christ!
    >
    > My name is Suzanne Romano. I live in Kentucky and belong to OLMC Catholic
    > Church in Boston, Kentucky.
    >
    > This church is serviced by Fr. Joseph Pfeiffer and Fr. David Hewko, SSPX-MC.
    >
    >
    > We have been approached by a man calling himself William Archbishop
    > Moran-Dorogovky. We are investigating his claim that he was consecrated a
    > bishop of the Ukrainian Uniate Catholic Church in 1976 by Cardinal Slipjy.
    >
    > Do you know of this man and can you provide us with any information that may
    > confirm his report?
    >
    > Thank you and may a God bless you. I thank you for your internet apostolate.
    > It is terrific!
    >
    > In Jesus and Mary,
    > Suzanne
    >
    > Sent from my iPhone


    They just replied a few minutes ago:


    From: Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate
    Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 10:45 AM
    To: Suzanne Romano
    Subject: Re: Question

    Glory to Jesus Christ!
    We apologize for such a late response; current situation around us
    here in Ukraine makes it impossible to react soon.
    Unfortunately, we do not know William Archbishop Moran-Dorogovky nor
    do we have any information about him.
    God bless You
    Secretariat of the Byzantine Catholic Patriarchate


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    « Reply #2 on: November 05, 2015, 06:42:38 PM »
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    On November 3rd, I contacted the Sister Servants of Mary Immaculate and spoke with Sister Kathleen Hutsko. She told me that the Sisters had already been contacted by someone else requesting information about Ambrose. She told me she would be willing to check their archives and ask around. Here is our email exchange, with her latest reply. The most recent email is on the top:


    From: Sister Kathleen Hutsko
    Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 7:23 AM
    To: Suzanne Romano
    Subject: Re: Fr. William Moran

    Dear Suzanne,

    We have searched our archives and have not found any information regarding Fr. Moran aka Bishop Ambrose. We don't even have those pictures with Sr. Rose or Sr. Dionysia (both are deceased) in their files.
    I have spoken to some clergy regarding him, but there is no documentation in their knowledge regarding his consecration or fake documents...

    Sorry that we could not be of any assistance. However, if something done appear, I will contact you.


    Sister Kathleen, SSMI


    "Do not be afraid to dream of great things." - Pope Francis



    On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:53 AM, Suzanne Romano <suz@bardstown.com> wrote:

    Thanks much, dear Sister.

    God love you!

    Sent from my iPhone

    On Nov 2, 2015, at 11:15 PM, Sister Kathleen Hutsko [her email address redacted]


    Dear Suzanne,

    Thank you very much. I will review the information and get back to you as my earliest convenience, our archives are not in the best shape at this time as we moved them over, but we will try to see what we can come up with. Not sure exactly what we would have about it either.


    Sr. Kathleen


    Sister Kathleen, SSMI


    "Do not be afraid to dream of great things." - Pope Francis



    On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Suzanne Romano <suz@bardstown.com> wrote:

    To: Sr. Kathleen Hutsko

    From: Suzanne Romano

    Re: Fr. William Moran; a.k.a Bishop Ambrose Moran

    Sister,

    Here is the website put together by the individual trying to pass Ambrose off as a Roman Catholic Prelate:

    https://ambrosemoran.wordpress.com/

    Here are the entries which involve the Sisters of the Immaculate:

    Fr./Bishop/Archbishop Ambrose Moran and Sr. Rose Olisky, SSMI

    The first picture was taken in 1975, the second in 1976 with newly consecrated Bishop Ambrose. The third picture is of Archbishop Ambrose and his mother visiting Sr. Rose Olisky many years later at the Motherhouse of the Sister Servants of Mary Immaculate in Sloatsburg, New York (the date of the third picture is unsure, probably 1988).

    1975 Sr. Rose Alisky

    Sr Alisky 3

    Sr Alisky 2

    A note to Bishop Ambrose from Sr. Olisky, SSMI (date uncertain):

    Sr Alisky 4

    1975: Two newspaper cuttings. First picture: Fr. Moran and Fr. Ropke as Ukrainian Catholic priests. Second picture: Fr. Moranand Fr. Bitzko.

    Newspaper 1

    Newspaper 2


    And here, Sister, is the page with the docs from the schismatic church and Santa Sophia in Rome:

    http://www.ecclesiamilitans.com/2015/11 ... secration/

    The first document is a record of a consecration in a schismatic church. Note that it is alleged (though the dates are scribbled over) that this consecration took place in 1976, the same year Ambrose alleges he was consecrated by Slipjy. The second document is what Ambrose produced to substantiate his claim that he was consecrated by Slipjy at the church of Santa Sophia in Rome. Don Marco, the priest official of Santa Sophia church in Rome, repudiates Ambrose's claim by alleging that the document produced by Ambrose is a fake - fake signatures and fake seal. Don Marco also indicated that there were multiple cross-verifications, all falsifying Ambrose's claims.

    In sum, we have two totally different documents, for two totally different alleged consecrations. The document indicating consecration by a schismatic bishop for a schismatic autocephalous group was located in a schismatic church in Chicago. The document indicating consecration by Slipjy has no official origin. It was provided by Ambrose and cannot be traced to any church. Ambrose claims he was consecrated at Santa Sophia in Rome. Santa Sophia denies his claim.

    We would appreciate it, Sister, if you could try to locate any information which would help us validate this man’s claims.

    Thanks and God bless you!

    In the Holy Family,



    Suzanne Romano

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    « Reply #3 on: November 05, 2015, 06:51:11 PM »
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  • It's Dolgorouky (or Dolgorouki)

    She butchered the name.
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    « Reply #4 on: November 06, 2015, 12:00:45 AM »
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  • Moran sounds quite Fellayesque in those texts.

    I see that Ms. Romano has contacted the "Byzantine Catholic Patriarch." She's probably not aware that Anthony Elias Dohnal along with his "bishops" are another group of dubious characters. For instance, "Patriarch" Dohnal has recently canonized Jan Hus: http://uogcc.org.ua/en/video/index.php/article/.15971/

    There is more to Dohnal too. He was also a mole for state intelligence (StB) in Czechoslovakia with the code name "Tonek" during the Soviet Era.  
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    « Reply #5 on: November 06, 2015, 07:21:43 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ambrosian Mickey Mouse

    Several groups have asked my assistance. Many do not accept SSPX or the bishops who come from that source... Many people do not trust Fr. Chezal!, ...I have been asked to confirm people who had been confirmed by Archbishop Lefebvre....who doubted his validity and that of the whole SSPX... I have been helping traditional Catholics for over 40 years...I have jurisdiction...The documents and photos on the internet are only the tip of the iceburg.



    Oh really.  He has been helping traditional Catholics for 40 years. bah!


    This guy is a clown, and how dare he call into question the legitimacy of the sacraments of Archbishop Lefebvre and his priests.  Where does he get his information that many people do not trust Fr. Chazal?  Who?  Pablo and Fr. Pfeiffer?  What a joke.  His claims here are really offensive and prove that he thinks he can deceive us.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

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    « Reply #6 on: November 07, 2015, 05:14:46 AM »
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  • AMBROSE: I have been helping traditional Catholics for over 40 years...I have jurisdiction. No other trade. [traditional] Bishops or priests have this. I am doing what Patriarch Josef Cardinal Slipyj told me to do. I am not involved with any other jurisdiction.

    Does "Bishop" Ambrose mean to say that Cardinal Slipyj told him that part of his underground experience in the Soviet Union would be traveling through the United States and Canada spreading confusion?

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    « Reply #7 on: November 07, 2015, 05:21:29 AM »
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  • AMBROSE: That is fine. My priests have nothing to do with anything SSPX or Abp. Lefebvre. This is s different reality.

     None of my people behave this way. Gossip is a sin. We do not tolerate this behavior. I have been helping traditionalists for over forty years. We are happy and have the valid sacraments and grace. We focus on our prayer life and not on demonic distractions and factions.


    If you and your priests have nothing to do with the SSPX or Archbishop Lefebvre then what are you doing reaching out to Fr Pfeiffer? I thought that the SSPX SO were supposed to be true followers of Archbishop Lefebvre.
     :scratchchin:  :scratchchin: :scratchchin:


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    Moran sounds quite Fellayesque in those texts.

    I see that Ms. Romano has contacted the "Byzantine Catholic Patriarch." She's probably not aware that Anthony Elias Dohnal along with his "bishops" are another group of dubious characters. For instance, "Patriarch" Dohnal has recently canonized Jan Hus: http://uogcc.org.ua/en/video/index.php/article/.15971/

    There is more to Dohnal too. He was also a mole for state intelligence (StB) in Czechoslovakia with the code name "Tonek" during the Soviet Era.  


    One big difference - Bishop Fellay is a real bishop.
     :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:

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    « Reply #9 on: November 07, 2015, 10:11:17 AM »
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    Moran sounds quite Fellayesque in those texts.

    I see that Ms. Romano has contacted the "Byzantine Catholic Patriarch." She's probably not aware that Anthony Elias Dohnal along with his "bishops" are another group of dubious characters. For instance, "Patriarch" Dohnal has recently canonized Jan Hus: http://uogcc.org.ua/en/video/index.php/article/.15971/

    There is more to Dohnal too. He was also a mole for state intelligence (StB) in Czechoslovakia with the code name "Tonek" during the Soviet Era.  


    One big difference - Bishop Fellay is a real bishop.
     :scratchchin: :scratchchin: :scratchchin:



    But Moran even tried to cast doubt on that, though.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...

     

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