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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

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Re: Accepting Vatican II
« Reply #150 on: May 11, 2023, 11:08:59 PM »
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  • Sounds like the biography of Archbishop Lefebvre.  May God grant to this unprofitable servant the honor of such company!

    From an interview with +Lefebvre:

    Question: Of course you realize that your name has disappeared from the latest edition of the Annuario Pontifico, the 'Papal Year Book' edited in Rome.

    Archbishop Lefebvre: I think that my name has not disappeared from the Annuario of the Good Lord, at least I hope so, and that is what matters."

    Sounds like the biography of a lot of people.  Do you have a photo of the pope in your home?

    Offline NIFH

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #151 on: May 11, 2023, 11:21:13 PM »
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  • No.

    Here's an interesting bit of the history of the Neo-SSPX.  One month after the death of Archbishop Lefebvre, Superior General Fr. Schmidberger ordered all SSPX chapels to display a photo of John Paul II.  Why did he not give that order six months earlier?


    Offline MiracleOfTheSun

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #152 on: May 11, 2023, 11:28:39 PM »
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  • I have no clue. I guess you'd have to ask him.

    Offline Miser Peccator

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #153 on: May 11, 2023, 11:34:00 PM »
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  • Not a pinch of incense to false gods of the Pantheon or worship in communion with heretics!

















    Japanese martyrs







    Young women had their breasts cut off, young men had hot pokers inserted into their backsides, were drawn and quartered (intestines pulled outside their bodies), fingers cut off, devoured by beasts


    rather than deny THE FIRST COMMANDMENT

    with even a pinch of incense.



    Please explain how they are members of the same church as these fools:


















    (Ephod worn by the chief priest of the Sanhedrin when he sentenced Our Lord Jesus Christ to death!)






    You can't.  They are not members of the same church. 


    They do not worship the same gods!


    Why are the Copts who were "martyrd" considered martrys

    when all who accept Paul VI as a valid pope and all the bishops with him at Vatican II required the members of the concilliar church

    by the ORDINARY magisterium to

      give assent of mind, intellect and will


    that ALLAH of the Quran is the same god as Jesus' Father?




    The only people who are not officially members of the

    concilliar church of Chrislam


    are Sedevacantists----

    otherwise known as members of the 

    ONE Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church.


    Choose which C(c)hurch you ally with very carefully.

    Ask the Holy Martyrs to be your guide!



    I exposed AB Vigano's public meetings with Crowleyan Satanist Dugin so I ask protection on myself family friends priest, under the Blood of Jesus Christ and mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary! If harm comes to any of us may that embolden the faithful to speak out all the more so Catholics are not deceived.



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    Offline Bl Alojzije Stepinac

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #154 on: May 06, 2025, 10:25:32 PM »
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  • I didn't know in which thread to put it.

    Here is a link to a blog in Croatian language about modernism, traditional catholic faith, historic events in the Church, especially in Croatia. There are many quotes in Latin and translation in Croation from Church docuмents, Catholic periodicals, scanned original books that are very old, authentic. 

    https://murusinexpugnabilis.blogspot.com/?m=1

    Maybe there are more people who know Croatian but are not members of the forum. I want to help them to convert or better learn and understand true catholic teachings, practices and errors of modernism and how the revolution was done. 

    Owner of the blog is anynonimous, maybe some old priest, theologian who has many pre-conciliar books. We in Croatia had wonderful bishops, priests, especially franciscians during the time of Ottoman Empire. Our Cardinal Stepinac would be blessed in the old process of canonization. He died in prison after a false trial. It was proved that he was slowly poisoned. He was vocal againsts all regimes, against abortions, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, communist-associated priests (hrv. "udruženjaštvo"), heretics. 

    In texts with original Latin, others can translate into their vernacular language.


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #155 on: May 07, 2025, 12:06:58 AM »
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  • I just saw a picture of Cardinal Stepinac for the first time, having looked him up, and I have to say that he looks very much like my brother Steve, God rest his soul, and a bit less like myself (though still very similar as Steve and I look rather alike) ... including the receding hairline as he got a bit older. ;)  Must be some kind of genetic overlap in lineage between many Hungarians and Croatians.

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #156 on: May 07, 2025, 12:11:45 AM »
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  • In this picture here, from a slightly different angle, he looks almost identical to myself when I was younger ... and somewhat lighter and had more hair and had not grown my beard yet (right about during my seminary years).  I have one or two pictures of myself during the Winona years, and I do bear a striking resemblance to him in this picture here, from the eyes, nose, mouth, the larger forehead (and already high hairline).  It's almost eerie for me to look at this here, as I could almost think I'm looking at an old picture of myself here ... that he's my doppelganger.  Initially I thought, "Wow does he look like my brother Steve." but then from this angle he looks more like me ... as I'm reminded of the fact that for those outside our family the two of us looked very much alike also.


    Offline Bl Alojzije Stepinac

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #157 on: May 07, 2025, 03:39:34 AM »
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  • In this picture here, from a slightly different angle, he looks almost identical to myself when I was younger ... and somewhat lighter and had more hair and had not grown my beard yet (right about during my seminary years).  I have one or two pictures of myself during the Winona years, and I do bear a striking resemblance to him in this picture here, from the eyes, nose, mouth, the larger forehead (and already high hairline).  It's almost eerie for me to look at this here, as I could almost think I'm looking at an old picture of myself here ... that he's my doppelganger.  Initially I thought, "Wow does he look like my brother Steve." but then from this angle he looks more like me ... as I'm reminded of the fact that for those outside our family the two of us looked very much alike also.



    Who would thought? Sometimes we maybe more resemble some stranger than our father, mother, uncle. Personally, I don't think I look a like my father or mother, but many people associate me with my father, even I have a different shape of nose, mouth, ears... :laugh1:

    You surely know that Croatians were under Ugars, from 1102. when we entered into "personal union", that's the term we learn from history subject. We weren't treated equal, and it was hard, but Ottoman Turks, Austrians, and Serbs were worse toward our nation, politicans, clerics. We are very old nation, ethincly but were without independance and own country for centuries. Before that, we had kings, first was king Thomas 1. crowned by pope St. Agatho in 925. 

    If you or anyone else knows someone who has Croatian roots, or have some relatives there, please recommend this blog. 

    Here is a quote from autor of this blog: "Fratres vicariae Bosnae facti sunt murus inexpugnabilis pro fide catholica." - papa Eugen IV.




    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #158 on: May 07, 2025, 08:03:52 AM »
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  • Who would thought? Sometimes we maybe more resemble some stranger than our father, mother, uncle. Personally, I don't think I look a like my father or mother, but many people associate me with my father, even I have a different shape of nose, mouth, ears... :laugh1:

    You surely know that Croatians were under Ugars, from 1102. when we entered into "personal union", that's the term we learn from history subject. We weren't treated equal, and it was hard, but Ottoman Turks, Austrians, and Serbs were worse toward our nation, politicans, clerics. We are very old nation, ethincly but were without independance and own country for centuries. Before that, we had kings, first was king Thomas 1. crowned by pope St. Agatho in 925.

    If you or anyone else knows someone who has Croatian roots, or have some relatives there, please recommend this blog.

    Here is a quote from autor of this blog: "Fratres vicariae Bosnae facti sunt murus inexpugnabilis pro fide catholica." - papa Eugen IV.

    Yes, and the Hungarians are considered a highly unique group, with many linguists and ethnologists stumped about where we came from, many saying we're closest to people in Finland.  Yet based on this striking resemblance between my younger self and Cardinal Stepinac, I have to think that there had been some intermingling given that both were within the Austro-Hungarian realm for quite some time.

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #159 on: May 07, 2025, 08:12:17 AM »
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  • If you or anyone else knows someone who has Croatian roots, or have some relatives there, please recommend this blog.

    So, my father spoke Croatian (and Serbian) fluently.  During WW2 he was in one of Tito's prison camps ... and ended up escaping, but alas I don't know too many Croatians these days since a couple of club soccer coaches for my kids a few years ago ... Joe Pavlek (and I can't remember the other one's name, but they won a state championship with one of my kids' teams).  I did have a Serbian roommate (last name Abramovich) at Loyola University.  But alas I'm not currently in contact with any Croatians, and very few Hungarians even outside my immediate family.  But if I do run into any, I'll direct them to the blog there.

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    Re: Accepting Vatican II
    « Reply #160 on: May 07, 2025, 09:20:15 PM »
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