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Re: Vaccines - Devil's Advocate
« Reply #70 on: December 16, 2020, 10:55:41 AM »
Sean, 

I can't spend more time right now as I am working, but I put the link regarding "after the fact" in my previous post.



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Re: Vaccines - Devil's Advocate
« Reply #71 on: December 16, 2020, 10:57:22 AM »
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And do you seriously think the devils that create these vaccines take a living pre-term baby, harvest his cells, and then put him in an incubator to maximize his chances of survival?

But could they keep the baby alive?  That's the question.  If a child can survive the taking of these cells, then murder/abortion is not a result of cell harvesting, but a separate immoral act.


Re: Vaccines - Devil's Advocate
« Reply #72 on: December 16, 2020, 10:58:29 AM »
Sean,

I can't spend more time right now as I am working, but I put the link regarding "after the fact" in my previous post.
Ok, I will go back and check it out, but the argument on the table now is not “after the fact,” but “continuous theft” (ie., present now).

Re: Vaccines - Devil's Advocate
« Reply #73 on: December 16, 2020, 11:00:33 AM »
Ok, I will go back and check it out, but the argument on the table now is not “after the fact,” but “continuous theft” (ie., present now).
I'd like to see moral principles that deal with "continuous sins".  The "after the fact" deals with applying double effect after the material cooperation is determined.  There is no need to do so once it is determined the cooperation is material.

Re: Vaccines - Devil's Advocate
« Reply #74 on: December 16, 2020, 11:02:16 AM »
I'd like to see moral principles that deal with "continuous sins".  The "after the fact" deals with applying double effect after the material cooperation is determined.  There is no need to do so once it is determined the cooperation is material.
Can you explain why?

If you are correct, it means we need not concern ourselves with:

1) Whether the act is good/indifferent or evil

2) Whether we can do evil that good may come

3) Whether the intention is good or evil

4) Whether or not there is a good at least equal to the evil.

I just can’t get my mind around how those questions become irrelevant to the morality of a human act (particularly one which cooperated in evil).

Ps: Can you find anything is a traditional manual on remote material cooperation which distinguishes between “in the present” cooperation from “after the fact” cooperation (and why double effect should apply for the former, but not the latter)?