This post is meant to play "devils advocate" against the most recent statement by the 4 novus ordo bishops, concerning the vaccine and its moral links to abortion.
Their conclusion is that it is immoral to take this vaccine. I agree with their conclusion (generally), but I disagree with the logic upon which the conclusion is based.
And I disagree that this vaccine is immoral in all cases. Ultimately, I do wonder if there are exceptions for one to take such a vaccine.
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All of my comments are based on the following article:
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2020/covid-vaccines-the-ends-cannot-justify-the-means.
This vaccine is highly questionable, from a medical standpoint, and I would personally advice ANYONE and EVERYONE to avoid it, at all costs. The evidence exists that such a vaccine will cause health problems, infertility or even death.
Humanly speaking, I am against this vaccine 100%.
I am only debating from a philosophical standpoint. If you don't like such debates, them please ignore this thread..
Philosophically, I do question the novus ordo logic of these 4 bishops (excepting maybe +Vigano, with his recent and good chastising of Vatican 2 and the new mass, but still, I consider him a convert of sorts...), they do not have the full, 100% orthodox faith, nor do they follow the pure, Traditional Church, so we can certainly question whether they have a proper theological foundation to make complex distinctions, being that the V2 church's seminaries and hierarchy has been infiltrated, subverted and diabolically backwards for 50+ years.
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Problem 1a - Novus Ordo Theology can't be TrustedLet us question the novus ordo church's assignment of abortion as "one of mankind's greatest crimes" (5th paragraph of article). Is abortion a great evil? Yes, of course. Is it an intrinsic evil against the natural law? Yes. It is one of the 4 sins which "cries to heaven for vengeance"? Yes, it is. But does that make it one of the greatest crimes? Yes in one sense, but no in another sense.
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Abortion, being a type of murder, is an intrinsic (i.e. essentially, always) evil against the natural law. But supernatural evils (blasphemy, sacrilege, atheism, anti-catholicism) are always greater than natural evils, because the former attacks God directly, while the latter attacks our neighbor.
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Thus, because V2 has ultimately destroyed the Faith, and it has so perverted and desensitized us to the HORRORS of blasphemy and sacrilege which happen in the new mass (which one could argue, is the greatest of
religious sins), so I question these 4 novus ordo bishop's theological logic (again, with some exception for +Vigano). Sins against Faith/religion are FAR, FAR GREATER than abortion, a fact that these 4 did not point out.
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Problem 1b - The V2 Church is so corrupt that the "fight against abortion" is the only moral battleground left. The V2 church, for the past 50 years, has been so corrupted that they have allowed, condoned, pardoned, and been lukewarm towards every major area of sin that exists...except abortion. The V2 church only has one "line in the sand" left and it is abortion. What other moral/truth do they support 100%? I can't think of anything.
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All manner of sins against God and religion are allowed, under the lies of "ecuмenism, inter-faith dialogue, (false) charity towards false religions, etc). All manner of sacrileges and blasphemies are allowed at the new mass, and only if people complain are such abominations said to be "abuses" which will be addressed, but then such abuses never go away, for the last 50 years.
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All manner of sins against impurity (divorce, remarriage, NFP) are allowed/condoned (including ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity). Thefts, lying, deceits, half-truths, etc are practiced by the vatican daily (vatican bank scandals and lying modernist clerics).
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Abortion is the only and last ounce of morality that has not been ravaged by the evils of V2. It is no wonder that these 4 bishops claim it is one of mankind's greatest evils. It is no wonder that they are hyper focused on this vaccine. But is this vaccine as morally wrong as they claim?
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Problem 2 - Murder/abortion is 1 of the 4 sins that "cries to heaven for vengeance". What about the other 3 sins?Why does new-rome only defend morality in this 1 area, but does not defend morality in these other 3 areas, with equal effort? This seems hypocritical.
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1. Willful murder/abortion.
2. Sodomy/ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.
3. Oppression of the poor.
4. Defrauding workers of their just wages.
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We know why new-rome condones #2...because most of the fake clerics are communist homos. But where is the outrage over the oppression of the poor and defrauding workers of just wages? Is new-rome quiet about this because of the political aspects (i.e. capitalism and communism both sin in these areas)? And especially Communism sins against both at the same time...they oppress the people, make them poor, and then defraud them of just wages by enslaving them for life. But where is the outrage against these moral injustices?
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Problem 3 - These 4 Bishops make allowances for material cooperation in some sins, but not in abortion. Why?The most problematic paragraph of the article written by the 4 bishops is the following. I split the paragraph into 3 parts, because each part is a different argument, and which corresponds to the 3 Problems I laid out above:
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The theological principle of material cooperation is certainly valid and may be applied to a whole host of cases (e.g. in paying taxes, the use of products made from slave labor, and so on). .
The first is that these 4 bishops allow for "material cooperation" in the case of "products made from slave labor" but not for abortion. This is illogical.
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A. Slave labor is a combination of 2 sins that cry to heaven for vengeance, whereas abortion is only 1. Slave labor involves not only oppression of the poor (slavery) but also defrauding them of their just wages.
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B. Slave labor is an ongoing, current, massively sinful operation. Abortive cells used in vaccines are (arguably) not ongoing, but happened 30-40 years ago. Is abortion that much more evil than slave labor?
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However, this principle can hardly be applied to the case of vaccines made from fetal cell lines, because those who knowingly and voluntarily receive such vaccines enter into a kind of concatenation, albeit very remote, with the process of the abortion industry. The crime of abortion is so monstrous that any kind of concatenation with this crime, even a very remote one, is immoral and cannot be accepted under any circuмstances by a Catholic once he has become fully aware of it. .Do those who knowingly and voluntarily "buy/use products from slave labor" (i.e. communist countries) not enter into a "concatenation" with Communist, anti-catholic, atheistic governments? Of course they do. .If even a "very remote" participation in abortion is immoral and "cannot be accepted under any circuмstances" then slave labor has the same restrictions..and it's worse...slave labor from COMMUNIST countries would have an even GREATER immorality, because these governments, in addition to taking their wages, deprive these slaves of religion and God, which is a FAR greater evil than abortion can ever dream of being..One who uses these vaccines must realize that his body is benefitting from the “fruits” (although steps removed through a series of chemical processes) of one of mankind’s greatest crimes..
I would argue that benefitting from the fruits of communism and slave labor is far worse than abortion, when viewed through the lens of theology and God. Abortion only seems worse because it involves emotions and children. But offenses against religion and God are much worse than any evil done to a creature. Plus, slave labor in an ongoing evil, whereas fetal cells taken from abortion happened long ago.
.Conclusion: The paragraph following the above, will be edited to prove a point:.Any link to the abortion process (atheistic Communism), even the most remote and implicit, will cast a shadow over the Church’s duty to bear unwavering witness to the truth that abortion (atheism, God-less Communism and anti-catholicism) must be utterly rejected. The ends cannot justify the means. We are living through one of the worst genocides known to man. Millions upon millions of babies (Billions of men, women and children) across the world have been slaughtered in their mother’s womb (at the hands of Communists), and day after day this hidden genocide continues through the abortion industry, biomedical research and fetal technology, by the ever-growing number of Communistic governments and a push by governments and international bodies to promote such vaccines cheap, slave-labor products as one of their goals. Now is not the time for Catholics to yield; to do so would be grossly irresponsible. The acceptance of these vaccines communistic slave labor products by Catholics, on the grounds that they involve only a “remote, passive and material cooperation” with evil, would play into the hands of the Church’s enemies and weaken her as the last stronghold against the evil of abortion communistic, atheistic governments and the growing threat to religion and Catholicism.