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Re: +Thomas Aquinas, OSB on the Motu Proprio
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2021, 08:15:49 AM »

November 2008
http://www.angelusonline.org/index.php?section=articles&subsection=show_article&article_id=2804


QUESTIONS & ANSWERS
Fr. Peter R. Scott
DOES THE CHURCH’S INFALLIBILITY EXTEND TO DISCIPLINARY LAWS?


There can be no doubt that there are a whole range of disciplinary laws introduced in the Church since Vatican II that are doing great harm to souls, that undermine the Faith and that are consequently evil. Obvious examples include the decrees promoting the New Mass, or permitting Communion in the hand, or permitting altar girls, or encouraging liberty of false religions, ecuмenism, or Eucharistic hospitality. The list is endless.


Let Scott be anathema:


Quote from: Council of Trent (1562)
"If anyone says that the ceremonies, vestments and outward signs, which the Catholic Church uses in the celebration of Masses, are incentives to impiety rather than the service of piety: let him be anathema."

Canons on the Mass. 17 September 1562. Denziger 954.

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Re: +Thomas Aquinas, OSB on the Motu Proprio
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2021, 11:03:42 AM »
Per the article I posted, the Church’s disciplinary infallibility only extends to positive, not negative, laws (and even then, only concerns universal, not particular, laws).
Yes, it needs to be said that Universal Laws include laws meant to remain in force till the end of time - the law of  Quo Primum for example.


That's to be expected after having been poisoned by some of the false principles of R&R.  For you it matters nothing what a Pope commands and teaches; you just do what want anyway.  So for you this means something, when it should mean a lot to someone with a true sensus Catholicus.

This forces R&R to simply reject the Disciplinary Infallibility of the Church in principle, because the argument that it was never made mandatory has just been completely scuttled.
As I told Lad before, he has it all backwards, he holds the false, classic NO principles, not R&R:

Since the conciliar popes have commanded nothing and taught next to nothing we can obey without offending God, all we *can* do is remain alert and watch for (albeit do not expect) a command / teaching we *can* obey and embrace *without * offending God. This, in addition to praying daily for the pope, is what Catholics, faithful subjects of the pope, do, and have done  since this crisis began. This is the classic R&R position in a nutshell and I wish you would bookmark it.