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« on: November 24, 2012, 10:07:29 PM »
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  •   Don't you feel better when you stand up and fight than if you crawl down in a little hole and go to sleep? People, your families are out there, your children are out there; you've got to do something to help.

      Wake up! What a colossal disappointment in Catholic tradition! The Devil grips St. Mary's in a terrible hold. A true Disneyworld! It is so comfortable with their way of living they can't see past the city limits. You are being cloak and daggered by the neo-sspx and you seem to revel in the attention!

      Will this message work? Of course not! The world & St. Mary's are far too disconnected with Catholic Truth to see there is any problem at all. Earlier this week we received a letter from "The Resistance" asking people in St. Mary's to wake up! We believe that letter will have little to no fruit because it is running up against a row of blissfully ignorant blockheads who simply don't care.

      A priest warned them not too long ago from the pulpit that they could lose everything they have. They deserve the integration of rome (the seat of the anti Christ) with their little world.

      God save Saint Mary's! May the day of our Lady come soon!    

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    « Reply #1 on: November 24, 2012, 11:07:57 PM »
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     Don't you feel better when you stand up and fight than if you crawl down in a little hole and go to sleep? People, your families are out there, your children are out there; you've got to do something to help.

      Wake up! What a colossal disappointment in Catholic tradition! The Devil grips St. Mary's in a terrible hold. A true Disneyworld! It is so comfortable with their way of living they can't see past the city limits. You are being cloak and daggered by the neo-sspx and you seem to revel in the attention!

      Will this message work? Of course not! The world & St. Mary's are far too disconnected with Catholic Truth to see there is any problem at all. Earlier this week we received a letter from "The Resistance" asking people in St. Mary's to wake up! We believe that letter will have little to no fruit because it is running up against a row of blissfully ignorant blockheads who simply don't care.

      A priest warned them not too long ago from the pulpit that they could lose everything they have. They deserve the integration of rome (the seat of the anti Christ) with their little world.

      God save Saint Mary's! May the day of our Lady come soon!    





    Let me guess:  The priest was Fr. Pfeiffer and the pulpit was not the one in
    Assumption Chapel, but in a small, temporary location, somewhere in town.



    The rank and file in the pews are under the delusion that if it doesn't come from
    the pulpit right there in their chapel, they don't have to believe it.  They don't
    have to believe "Internet rumors."  See how that works?  I see it happening in
    independent chapels and in sede chapels.  People believe what they hear the
    priest say from the pulpit, and if he says not to believe something they hear
    elsewhere, they do what he says.  This happens all the time.  It's how V.II was
    so successful.  It's the unclean spirit of Vatican II all over again.  


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    « Reply #2 on: November 25, 2012, 07:18:21 AM »
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     Don't you feel better when you stand up and fight than if you crawl down in a little hole and go to sleep? People, your families are out there, your children are out there; you've got to do something to help.

      Wake up! What a colossal disappointment in Catholic tradition! The Devil grips St. Mary's in a terrible hold. A true Disneyworld! It is so comfortable with their way of living they can't see past the city limits. You are being cloak and daggered by the neo-sspx and you seem to revel in the attention!

      Will this message work? Of course not! The world & St. Mary's are far too disconnected with Catholic Truth to see there is any problem at all. Earlier this week we received a letter from "The Resistance" asking people in St. Mary's to wake up! We believe that letter will have little to no fruit because it is running up against a row of blissfully ignorant blockheads who simply don't care.

      A priest warned them not too long ago from the pulpit that they could lose everything they have. They deserve the integration of rome (the seat of the anti Christ) with their little world.

      God save Saint Mary's! May the day of our Lady come soon!    





    Let me guess:  The priest was Fr. Pfeiffer and the pulpit was not the one in
    Assumption Chapel, but in a small, temporary location, somewhere in town.



    The rank and file in the pews are under the delusion that if it doesn't come from
    the pulpit right there in their chapel, they don't have to believe it.  They don't
    have to believe "Internet rumors."  See how that works?  I see it happening in
    independent chapels and in sede chapels.  People believe what they hear the
    priest say from the pulpit, and if he says not to believe something they hear
    elsewhere, they do what he says.  This happens all the time.  It's how V.II was
    so successful.  It's the unclean spirit of Vatican II all over again.  




    Yes. Father Pfeiffer but also  Father K. Novak.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 25, 2012, 11:53:40 PM »
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  • Okay, you got me.  Can you tell me anything about Fr. Novak?  I guess
    I'm out of the loop.  I've never met Fr. Pfeiffer, but from his sermons I
    think I would have a lot to say to him if I ever get the good fortune to
    make his acquaintance.  I've known several others who have met him
    and Fr. Chazal, and they look at me funny when I react to their
    description of their meetings.  One friend told me about them coming to
    his front door and he didn't know who they were.  He doesn't use a
    computer.  Well, I guess I didn't time my visit very well, did I?  

    I wish I could have been there...  

    If I ever run into Fr. Novak quite by chance, I'd like to know something
    about him, and what he looks like, so I don't miss the opportunity.  Can
    you imagine having met Padre Pio and not knowing who he was?  What
    a lost opportunity!  I met Fr. Hector Bolduc under such circuмstances,
    but I was fortunate to recognize immediately that I was in the presence
    of someone I would never forget as long as I live.  


    P.S. If it wasn't for Fr. Bolduc, St. Mary's Wouldn't Exist.










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    « Reply #4 on: November 26, 2012, 12:42:33 AM »
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  • SSPXBVM, why is St. Mary's any different than any other town served by the SSPX where the folks in the pews are comfy, blind, and deaf to the startling and sad events in the Society and Catholic Tradition.  

    Insulting the people who live there will not convince them of the truth, only alienate them further, stiffening their backs and wills.  We need to always be ready with a truthful words regarding the current state supported by links to information that has supporting good information, but until their eyes and ears are opened through prayer, ours and theirs, they will remain blind and deaf.  

    We all can say we are truly frustrated by blind obedience which compromises truth, soviet style propaganda agendas, and threats of withhold of sacraments, insults to a people will not bring about good fruit anywhere.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 26, 2012, 09:58:02 AM »
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  • I know Fr. Novak, he was my priest at one time.  I would be very weary of lumping him into the "resistance." (I mean no offence.  Perhaps you were not doing that or intending to do that) Fr. Novak is loyalty personified.  I heard from his own lips, "Live and die a Society priest, that's me."   He is a wonderful priest, very outspoken, always has been as long as I have known him.  But he loves the Society.  Keep in mind too, that sometimes his sermons can be rather obscure.  What a person in the pew may think he is talking about, often times is far from what he was intending/thinking.

    There is a recent picture of him on the SSPX.org web site.  It was taken at the Starkenburg Pilgrimange.

    http://www.sspx.org/chapel_news/starkenburg_pilgrimage_2012/DSC05727.JPG


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    « Reply #6 on: November 26, 2012, 10:16:12 AM »
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  • That should have been "leery" not "weary" LOL! I'm "weary" this morning apparently! I guess we only have a short amount of time to edit our posts.  I'll try to read over my more carefully next time.


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    « Reply #7 on: November 26, 2012, 11:55:37 AM »
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  • Let me relate something which fits into this discussion as well.  Several years ago, say five to seven, the parish held a "Legion of Mary" event.  I am sure it had a formal name, but the purpose was to increase the membership in the local chapter of the LoM.  Fr. Libietis, our pastor and "leader" of the Legion of Mary conducted the event.  He would do these events in various parishes throughout the world, but most of his travels were limited to the USA and the Pacific region.  Anyhow, he was reviewing some of the locations were LoM were existing or recently established.  As an aid, people would call out cities, like Phoenix, LA, etc.  Somebody mentioned St. Mary's, to which he responded, no they don't have a chapter there and they did not seem to be interested in having one.  He seemed disappointed in that fact, but that's the way it was.  He was very committed to the BVM, so I suspect he saw what this thread is all about.  He too would say that we have no idea what is coming down the road, and how difficult things will become.  

    Since Fr. Libietis has been given the BITA (boot in the anterior) by the SSPX, who is doing the LoM?  

    I also found the 2006 Marian Retreat given by Fr. Libietis on YouTube.  It was posted by the same person who recently posted the interviews with the Belgian priest (harrassed by SSPX henchmen, etc.) on our site here.  That person has many good sermons, many of which are posted on this site as well.  In any case, the Fr. Libietis retreat is audio and video.  There are three two hours videos.  The first is here:  The other two appear to show up when you do a search, if not automatically.  

    Fr. Libietis was our pastor for more than ten years.  This video is really nothing more than three Sunday sermons rolled together into a two hour presentation.  Every Sunday was a mini-retreat.  I don't know where he is now, but hopefully he is preaching every Sunday.  As I have often thought, his BITA and the resulting loss of priestly guidance weighs heavily on the souls of selected people.  I would not want to be present when Our Lord asks for an explaination as to why a priest who championed His Mother was given the BITA.  

    Thank you for allowing me to ramble on and on.

    Jake


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    « Reply #8 on: November 26, 2012, 05:19:34 PM »
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  • Quote from: ...I also found the 2006 Marian Retreat given by Fr. Libietis on YouTube.  It was posted by the same person who recently posted the interviews with the Belgian priest (harrassed by SSPX henchmen, etc.) on our site here.  That person has many good sermons, many of which are posted on this site as well.  In any case, the Fr. Libietis retreat is audio and video.  There are three two hours videos.  The first is here:  The other two appear to show up when you do a search, if not automatically.  

    Fr. Libietis was our pastor for more than ten years.  This video is really nothing more than three Sunday sermons rolled together into a two hour presentation.  Every Sunday was a mini-retreat.  I don't know where he is now, but hopefully he is preaching every Sunday.  As I have often thought, his BITA and the resulting loss of priestly guidance weighs heavily on the souls of selected people.  I would not want to be present when Our Lord asks for an explaination as to why a priest who championed His Mother was given the BITA.[/quote



    Thank you JacobRCharpentier.

    This YouTube of Fr. Libietis' mini-retreat is excellent -really excellent!

    Perhaps you can put it in on it's own post to make it as visible as possible...

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    « Reply #9 on: November 26, 2012, 05:44:18 PM »
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    I know Fr. Novak, he was my priest at one time.  I would be very weary of lumping him into the "resistance." (I mean no offence.  Perhaps you were not doing that or intending to do that) Fr. Novak is loyalty personified.  I heard from his own lips, "Live and die a Society priest, that's me."   He is a wonderful priest, very outspoken, always has been as long as I have known him.  But he loves the Society.  Keep in mind too, that sometimes his sermons can be rather obscure.  What a person in the pew may think he is talking about, often times is far from what he was intending/thinking.

    There is a recent picture of him on the SSPX.org web site.  It was taken at the Starkenburg Pilgrimange.

    http://www.sspx.org/chapel_news/starkenburg_pilgrimage_2012/DSC05727.JPG



    I don't know Fr Novack's position on all the politics either but I wanted to note that this post is based in the erroneous thought that the Resistance priests do not also love the SSPX. I think people would be better off to realize their actions stem from love of the SSPX, that of ABL, and speak of their cases accordingly.

    There have been priests who have left because they no longer held SSPX positions, but I do not believe it to be the case right now.

    As far as St Mary's, Fr Beck says the sermon at all Masses on the first Sunday of the month, wherein he keeps everyone "informed" so that they have no need to search out "Internet rumors". It has been disappointing to hear this same phrase parroted by all I've spoken with so far. They are much too comfortable. This is human nature, I don't believe it is bad will necessarily, but Satan will use the weakness and neglect to his advantage as he always does. It will catch up with them someday if not now.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 26, 2012, 07:33:40 PM »
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    SSPXBVM, why is St. Mary's any different than any other town served by the SSPX where the folks in the pews are comfy, blind, and deaf to the startling and sad events in the Society and Catholic Tradition.  

    Insulting the people who live there will not convince them of the truth, only alienate them further, stiffening their backs and wills.  We need to always be ready with a truthful words regarding the current state supported by links to information that has supporting good information, but until their eyes and ears are opened through prayer, ours and theirs, they will remain blind and deaf.  

    We all can say we are truly frustrated by blind obedience which compromises truth, soviet style propaganda agendas, and threats of withhold of sacraments, insults to a people will not bring about good fruit anywhere.


    You're right. Not even Christ's harsh words to the Scribes and Pharisee's changed many or any of them. But that didn't stop Him and it wont stop us either. Those people don't need to be pampered. They need the hard, harsh words.

    BTW. Yes. Prayer works. No. Links don't usually work. This darkness is only overcome by a special grace which God bestows on particular souls for His reasons.

    Finally, an internet forum won't change any hardheads. The original post was mostly letting steam off and planting the seed if God cares to make use of it.


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    « Reply #11 on: November 26, 2012, 08:19:26 PM »
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    I know Fr. Novak, he was my priest at one time.  I would be very weary of lumping him into the "resistance." (I mean no offence.  Perhaps you were not doing that or intending to do that) Fr. Novak is loyalty personified.  I heard from his own lips, "Live and die a Society priest, that's me."   He is a wonderful priest, very outspoken, always has been as long as I have known him.  But he loves the Society.  Keep in mind too, that sometimes his sermons can be rather obscure.  What a person in the pew may think he is talking about, often times is far from what he was intending/thinking.

    There is a recent picture of him on the SSPX.org web site.  It was taken at the Starkenburg Pilgrimange.

    http://www.sspx.org/chapel_news/starkenburg_pilgrimage_2012/DSC05727.JPG



    I don't know Fr Novack's position on all the politics either but I wanted to note that this post is based in the erroneous thought that the Resistance priests do not also love the SSPX. I think people would be better off to realize their actions stem from love of the SSPX, that of ABL, and speak of their cases accordingly.

    There have been priests who have left because they no longer held SSPX positions, but I do not believe it to be the case right now.

    As far as St Mary's, Fr Beck says the sermon at all Masses on the first Sunday of the month, wherein he keeps everyone "informed" so that they have no need to search out "Internet rumors". It has been disappointing to hear this same phrase parroted by all I've spoken with so far. They are much too comfortable. This is human nature, I don't believe it is bad will necessarily, but Satan will use the weakness and neglect to his advantage as he always does. It will catch up with them someday if not now.


      Yes. Father Beck is taking all the sermons every first Sunday (5 Masses). His first one (that we remember) was on our Lady. It was a very good sermon. Very good. One person called it a "tear jerker." But something was missing. He didn't speak on how our Lady helps us today in our dark world. Her apparitions warning her children and how God wants to establish devotion to the Immaculate Heart of Mary. He covered everything except for that.

       He also had a sermon on how we are in a very great battle and how the worst enemy on the battlefield comes from "friendly fire" (can we guess what that refers to???). We are certain he will come back to the "friendly fire" routine if he feels he ever has to bring up the SSPX resistance. Something like "Remember when I spoke about 'friendly fire'...well, this is an example of it."

      Another, more recent, sermon was about the hurricane in New York. He said a very alarming thing: (I paraphrase) "The weather is one of the few things man cannot control." Has the rector of Saint Mary's never heard of HARP or the government spraying chemicals in the air to cool the earth and poison us? How can one reach a place of importance in leading thousands of faithful and not know this is a reality? He did speak of our Lady's apparitions in a sentence or two but failed to mention the miraculous image of our Lady still standing in the midst of all the devastation (Wall Street Journal front cover).

      Anyway, might have the sermons out of order but they each have taken place since he has been here. We are not always in town so there is probably even more. Since he is a priest we will give him the benefit of the doubt because there are (to quote from the "Agenda" docuмentary) only two options. Either he is evil or ignorant. We choose the ignorance. The cloak and dagger being
    perpetrated upon the Saint Mary's chapel is being arranged from a higher source of authority.

      Now they are playing the organ at every Mass. Poor 'ol Father Novak stands there singing his heart out as the organ blares out the tune. And Father Novak is apparently the only one singing. One can barely hear his voice. It reminds one of the titanic sinking and the orchrestra playing it's music.  In the midst of a chaotic mess in the world and the Church one voice tries to be heard.

      Father Novak has been a great priest. He still is a great priest. "The Legend" is what Father Hewko calls him. He asked us recently. "How's the Legend?" Father Novak will stay but this great priest will not stay if he is to deny the Creed. No. He wouldn't do that. We owe a lot to Father Novak. He is trying so hard even in Saint Marys as the SSPX sinks--- to elevate souls. He is like a Captain. This Captain won't jump ship.  God be with him in his efforts!

      We will be moving from this place in the next several months. Father Novak will be missed. However, we have no attachment except to Catholic Truth-pure and
    unadulterated. This is fast turning us away from the chapel even as we live in Saint Marys.

      The sun has set on the SSPX. It will soon be too dark to stay.

     "One day by the Rosary and Scapular, I will save the world." ---Words of our Lady
     

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    « Reply #12 on: November 26, 2012, 08:31:12 PM »
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  • How did this thread end up under the SSPX-Rome Agreement section? It was originally put under General Discussion.

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  • For all of you who think you need to lecture us here in St. Mary's on courage because we haven't had meltdowns due to the recent events within the SSPX, I would like to say that some of us have lived here a very long time, and most of us gave up everything that was of less importance to us than God, to be close to the chapel, school and fine priests that we have always been blessed with. But that included giving up things as important as family, friends and well-paying jobs. Most of us also have lots of kids that need to be educated and don't believe that public schools or novus ordo schools would do a decent job of it. So, before you go on with the accusations of not caring about our souls or our childrens' or just being bone lazy about the practice of our Faith, or of not having any convictions because we have it so comfortable here, I would like to tell you that you do not know what you are talking about.
    How many of you experts in Catholic tradition have been through 30 years of living in a small hamlet filled with people who run the gamut from liberal Catholic to visionary fanatics and just plain stupid and hard-headed people that have to be dealt with every day in close proximity? My family came here many years ago, while Archbishop Lefebvre was still going strong. We have been through all of the SSPX splits and we have seen a lot of people come and go. Some folks move here for the wrong reasons and expect some kind of utopia. Well, it isn't and anyone with half a Catholic brain would know that there isn't any utopia on earth. But if we were all so lazy and compromising, we wouldn't have come here in the first place because to live in St. Mary's is to be in the thick of the fight and the heat of battle all the time. But we have a safe place to practice our Faith and raise our children. Our children don't get kidnapped, they can have friends that are good kids who are raised similarly, and they have numbers of young traditional Catholics to choose from when they are thinking of marriage. The only convenience stores in town agreed not to carry Playboy or Penthouse after some of our men paid them a cordial visit a long, long time ago. Now for the most important advantages; we can visit the Blessed Sacrament any time of the day or night, we have five days of the week to go to confession, and, of course, we have daily Mass several times of the day and one as late as 11:00. Most of us have relatives who are traditional and live in large cities still, mostly because they couldn't bring themselves to leave the big paying jobs or the convenience of hospitals and shops nearby. I even know a traditional family that didn't want to move here because they had just gotten new kitchen cabinets. But they don't have our advantages. Usually they can't attend daily Mass, they have a real problem getting into confession, their kids don't have good trad friends that they can visit nearby but usually have worldly kids to play with who attend the same public or NO schools as they do.  To be sure, there are worldy people here and worldly kids among the good but it is possible for us to choose good friends and good friends for our children. We stay here for God. To be as close to Him as we possibly can. But never think life here is easy. It is not. But spiritually speaking, the rewards are too great to enumerate.
    Even though there are those here who do not agree with pursuing a deal with Rome, I believe this is not the time to run around like a chicken without a head. No matter where we live, we who love tradition, need to keep cool heads and pray hard, harder than we have been. I love the Bishop and priests who have been forced out (I have known some well for a very long time)and I am completely at a loss to understand what Bishop Fellay is doing, but I know that the SSPX and St. Mary's are in Our Lady's hands and I have confidence that God's will will be done. So far, our Mass is the same as it has been for the entire life of the Society, we have not seen the unusual abuses that are reported in some places. Perhaps because here we have several priests to keep things more balanced. Outwardly, nothing has changed and until it does, we watch and wait. To separate a soul from its source of nourishment; the daily Mass and the sacraments, is a triumph of Satan. There are too many hotheads who are willing to shoot their mouths off and give no thought to what will happen to their souls and their children's after they separate themselves from these graces. There has been no deal and there may never be a deal. We are not going to lightly jeopardize our souls and the vocations of our children for the satisfaction of giving in to the temptation to be hotheaded in this very serious situation.
    St. Thomas More knew the wisdom of keeping ones opinion on dangerous subjects to oneself. It may be that we will have to lose everything, but it should be avoided if it can be...while we wait for better times.
    And one last thought, Our Lady appeared here a long time ago to a little Indian girl and promised that this place would never be destroyed by wind, which is no small thing in Tornado Alley, USA. And to date, the has not been a tornado within the city limits or even really close to it. Go ahead and check it out. There have even been tornadoes that split and went around St. Mary's, but never through it. In these times of crazy superstorms and manipulated weather, this promise takes on huge significance. But I believe that the significance is even greater. I believe that She will protect us from the spiritual storms that are coming as well. She knows how devoted we are to Her and to Her rosary and She won't abandon us.

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    « Reply #14 on: November 26, 2012, 10:54:24 PM »
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  • Sapon,

    You don't have to give up or leave St. Mary's. What you should be doing is acknowledging that there is a problem within the Society and then support those priests and bishop who are brave enough to stand up and say something. Those priests have visited you and I'm sure will do so again. Did you support them in their efforts while they were there?

    If Our Lady decides that her next protection for you will be to send you a non-SSPX priest to serve the St. Mary's area free from compromise, will you be able to see Her protection from that storm as plainly as from a weather event?