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Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: hollingsworth on April 11, 2013, 04:50:26 PM
I have secured permission to publish a private letter from Fr. Nickolas Phluger, 1st Asst. to Superior General Bernard Fellay,  to Bishop Richard Williamson.  The letter is almost two and one half years old, and was, of course, sent to His Excellency before the latter was expelled from the Society.  The letter was originally written in French.  Since it is eight pages in length, I will publish Part 2 tomorrow or the next day, until it has all been put online.
My wife and I were in attendance at Fr. Phluger's talk in Post Falls, Wednesday the 10th of April.  We came away so put off by the event, and so disappointed by the performance of the First Assistant, that I thought it high time we all get to know the real Fr. Phluger a little better.  Keep in mind, as you read the letter, that these are the words of a mere priest in the Society to a bishop superior, the organizational and hierarchical structure of the Society notwithstanding:

Letter from Fr Pfluger to Bishop Williamson, 1 January,  2011.

Your Excellency,
Dear Bishop Williamson,

For months I have been meaning to write to you in order to bring up everything so to speak incomprehensible and also false in the things you have been saying over the last few years. I put it off since you never brought up arguments and obviously feel personally hurt – rather unusual for a free-thinking man. But after I could not help reading in your latest “Eleison Comments” that “World War III may not be far off”, I am now writing before time becomes short, because one never knows when time will run out.

This prophecy of yours took my mind back to the after-dinner speeches at the Episcopal Consecrations of 1988, After the main event all four newly consecrated bishops said a few words. Bishop Tissier as usual was very theological and dogmatic. Bishop de Galarreta was short and discrete. Bishop Fellay was pastoral and balanced. But you were principally concerned with war. Perhaps you were already thinking of World War III when you cried out to the assembly, “It’s war, it’s war !”. At that time it was still the Russians who were due to attack. It would be quite a task to count up all the times in the last 22 years that you have prophesied with precise dates the Third World War and the Chastisement. At least a dozen times for sure. A task also to work out why you have never asked yourself the question whether your forecasting arises from objective analysis and not rather from subjective utopianism.

Alas, I know you do not ask yourself such questions. Nor do you ask why I, and with me Menzingen and almost the entire Society of St Pius X and the world while we are about it, why we merely shake our heads and are simply disappointed. (I attach extracts from two e-mails, the first coming from a former pupil of yours, the second from a German town mayor.) For you it is clear. Always somebody else is to blame. Everybody else is clueless, blind to reality, agents of some organization or other, be it Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ or the Mossad or the CIA,  most recently and emphatically “the Jews” – the list is long. In brief, anybody who disagrees with you is either stupid or wicked or both. To any of the people who have rejected your constant warnings of war and your crude political and economic theories, and who have criticized you for them – there are many such people, and some have even been offended -- have you ever apologized ?  Have you apologized to one single one ?  Would you ever be capable of saying, “I was wrong” ?

In fact that is a blatantly semitic way of thinking: to pin one’s own faults on a scapegoat, which bears the guilty for everything. That is what Hitler did. The Germans’ own defeat of November 9, 1918 produced a hatred for international Jewry, which was responsible for all evil in the German nation and therefore had to be “fought openly and without mercy”.

This problem is to be seen at another point in the latest “Eleison Comments”. You wrote there: “Derivatives… act upon the delicate mechanisms of world finance like weapons of mass destruction, because they easily fabricate an unreal world of colossal and unpayable debt.”  To which one smart reader replied, “The Bishop is showing off – “delicate mechanisms of world finance” -- as though he sees through the mechanisms of world finance and could point out their weaknesses.” You could not do that. No more can you see through the highly complex connections of politics, or the nαzιs’ mass-murder of Jews. You have an opinion, then you look around for a few unconnected details which somehow fit this opinion (for instance the “Leuchter Report”), and you hawk it all as the truth...
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(To be continued)
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: bernadette on April 11, 2013, 05:08:39 PM
An extremely rude letter to +Williamson...The sspx is always harping on "obedience" to ones superior, yet Fr. Phluger displays enormously uncharitable, cheeky, obnoxious, and strikingly mean tone towards his superior, a Bishop no less...totally wrong, and completely reprehensible.

Thank you for posting...Fr. Phluger has been at our chapel in the past and I was not impressed, in fact, I didn't like his manner at all.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: John Grace on April 11, 2013, 05:19:05 PM
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An extremely rude letter to +Williamson...The sspx is always harping on "obedience" to ones superior, yet Fr. Phluger displays enormously uncharitable, cheeky, obnoxious, and strikingly mean tone towards his superior, a Bishop no less...totally wrong, and completely reprehensible.


Indeed but it must be remembered who is controlling the purse of the pious union. It's not even necessary to post the remainder of the letter.

There is a reference to an email from "a former pupil of yours". Is this J. Christopher Pryor?

Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: John Grace on April 11, 2013, 05:20:36 PM
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“It’s war, it’s war !”


Yes, it's war and we are at war.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: SeanJohnson on April 11, 2013, 05:35:39 PM
The only purpose in writing this letter would be to provoke and elicit a response from Bishop Williamson which could later be used against him as evidence of insubordination for justifying his eventual and planned expulsion.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: SeanJohnson on April 11, 2013, 05:43:54 PM
Quote from: SeanJohnson
The only purpose in writing this letter would be to provoke and elicit a response from Bishop Williamson which could later be used against him as evidence of insubordination for justifying his eventual and planned expulsion.


Seems pretty clear to me that Fr Pfluger was trying to pick a fight.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: hollingsworth on April 11, 2013, 06:13:30 PM
SJ:  
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Seems pretty clear to me that Fr Pfluger was trying to pick a fight.


What is clear to me is that +Phluger wrote this with the full approval of the SG and Menzingen.  It expresses utter contempt for the bishop, and the worst is yet to come.  Stay tuned.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: s2srea on April 11, 2013, 06:21:38 PM
Quote from: hollingsworth
SJ:  
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Seems pretty clear to me that Fr Pfluger was trying to pick a fight.


What is clear to me is that +Phluger wrote this with the full approval of the SG and Menzingen.  It expresses utter contempt for the bishop, and the worst is yet to come.  Stay tuned.


May God bless you for taking the time to translate and share this Hollingsworth. God have mercy on Fr. Phluger. Long live Bishop Williamson!
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: sspxbvm on April 11, 2013, 06:22:48 PM
Apparently the "after dinner speeches" had some Freemason sympathizers amongst them. Some of whom have since joined them.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: s2srea on April 11, 2013, 06:29:47 PM
Quote from: sspxbvm
Apparently the "after dinner speeches" had some Freemason sympathizers amongst them. Some of whom have since joined them.


Can you please clarify sspxbvm?
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: hollingsworth on April 11, 2013, 06:44:42 PM
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May God bless you for taking the time to translate and share this Hollingsworth. God have mercy on Fr. Phluger. Long live Bishop Williamson!


I did not do the translation, but am certain that it is accurate and idiomatic.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: SeanJohnson on April 11, 2013, 06:47:25 PM
When is the rest of the letter coming?
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Incredulous on April 11, 2013, 06:57:53 PM
Quote from: SeanJohnson
When is the rest of the letter coming?


Yeah...!!!
 :ready-to-eat: :ready-to-eat: :ready-to-eat:
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Incredulous on April 11, 2013, 07:40:46 PM
ʝʊdɛօ-Freemasonic sympathyzers in the neo SSPX ?    :thinking:

Father Phluger accuses his superior of being an advocate of conspiracy theories
and His Excellency freely admits he is.

It makes one wonder how many priests and faithful in the neoSSPX watch TV and believe in our government's explanation of the Okalahoma bombing, the 9-11 attack or the Sandy Hook massacre ?

With N. Korea threatening to nuke us, and B-1 stealth bombers and the Navy rushing to Asia, I think Msgr. Williamson is dead right about WWIII.

Comically, Father Phluger also accused Bp. Williamson of being a nαzι and from his letter, he obviously supports zionist h0Ɩ0cαųst propaganda.

There is now strong evidence that Hitler was part Jєωιѕн and put into power by the zionists. Source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ5MeQnmLo0)

Fellow Catholics, our decision to choose sides is very clear:  

The betrayal of Catholic doctrine by our neoSSPX leaders in the religious realm has been docuмented. Do we also follow their sell-out politics ?

Its either Fr. Phluger's CNN view of reality or the objective truth, as consistently fed to us by the Lion of Wimbledon?
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: drivocek on April 11, 2013, 08:08:50 PM
". . .  rather unusual for a freethinking man . . ."  The entire letter thusfar translated is an extreme insult and as someone remarked, especially to a bishop.
I noticed that someone put a + in front of pffluggur's nomen.

        This read like a child's bully-type writing!
                         

        I am totally convinced that Menzingen is a freemasonic front. Add into the recipe the involvement of Karah and we have a judaeo-freemasonic odor -  a stink nonetheless.

        Wow!  I have been reading about this guy PPFFlegger and now I know.

         I know nothin', I hear nothin', I see nothin' Cammandant klugger.

         Yes, Schultzie . . . now run along and play with your boys.


         I rarely let my anger show but this letter is . . .


Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: drivocek on April 11, 2013, 08:20:59 PM
I had never heard of the leuchter report. Thanks, Herr Fplugger for bringing it to my actung.




                http://www.ihr.org/books/leuchter/leuchter.toc.html
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: 1st Mansion Tenant on April 11, 2013, 08:24:08 PM
Quote from: hollingsworth
the worst is yet to come.  Stay tuned.


 :shocked:
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Incredulous on April 11, 2013, 09:04:53 PM
Quote from: 1st Mansion Tenant
Quote from: hollingsworth
the worst is yet to come.  Stay tuned.


 :shocked:




Shocking... why they will become known as the "Phlugy Files".

Holly can syndicate letter segments to the international press.

While trads everywhere are eager to read them, the big fish (Remnant & CFN) won't subscribe, because it will hurt their SSPX advertising business.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: AntiFellayism on April 11, 2013, 09:42:28 PM
Bishop Felay's first assistant: (http://satiricalgoo.blogspot.com/2012/10/back-to-square-circle.html)
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Telesphorus on April 12, 2013, 12:48:08 AM
Yes, it does show unbridled contempt and disrespect for the views of Bishop Williamson.

Does Bishop Williamson demand we assent to his personal views?

Is he wrong to warn us of God's Wrath, the seeming imminence of some terrible crisis or chastisement, given the awful state of the world today?

Were the saints "scapegoating" the Jews when they spoke of the Jєωιѕн role in the coming of the Antichrist?

Someone with the Antichrist associates that this priest has should show a little bit of respect and decency.

Of course, that's far much to ask from cult bullies.  
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Croix de Fer on April 12, 2013, 02:42:03 AM
I wonder if someone from NewChurch or Menzingen told Pfluger, "Hey, if you send such an inflammatory letter to provoke Bishop Williamson, then there just might be an episcopal consecration in your future, that is, if SSPX and Rome can make a deal  :wink: "
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Ethelred on April 12, 2013, 03:07:28 AM
Quote from: hollingsworth
I have secured permission to publish a private letter from Fr. Nickolas Phluger, 1st Asst. to Superior General Bernard Fellay,  to Bishop Richard Williamson.  The letter is almost two and one half years old, and was, of course, sent to His Excellency before the latter was expelled from the Society.  The letter was originally written in French.

Thanks Hollingsworth for posting this one.

Two minor corrections, though:

1) the letter was originally written in German, which unfortunately is the native language of the Swiss-German Fr Pfluger.  This German letter is dated 27 December 2010. The translation is dated 1 January 2011.
And the Judaizer Max Krah helped in writing the letter. Firstly, the original letter's word-docuмent has as creator "MK28" which is the Internet pseudonym of Max Krah (plus his age number when he started posting). Secondly, those knowing Krah's public and not-so-public writings in German, will recognise his many passages in the German original letter instantly.

2) The name of the father is Niklaus Pfluger, not Phluger. It may be hard for Anglo-Saxons to spell this name (and actually you don't need to spell it, just write it), but still it's Pfluger. The German word Pflug means plough in English, so his name in English would translate to something like plough-er. :-)

Quote from: hollingsworth
I did not do the translation, but am certain that it is accurate and idiomatic.

A friend showed to me the German original and the English translation, and I can assure you that it is a professional translation. No surprise, because to my information His Excellency translated the letter from German to English (and we all know that his German is excellent).

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(To be continued)

Indeed. When do you post the rest of the letter? I would have hoped you had posted the entire letter in one go, because it really has to be read in one go in order to grasp it.

Since you e-mailed the complete letter to your mailing-list yesterday night, could you or somebody from this list post the entire letter soon here on CI please? Readers really need to get the entire ugly picture!


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God have mercy on Fr. Phluger.

Yes, indeed. A high ranking and faithful SSPX cleric titled Fr Pfluger as the "demon of the SSPX" with good reason. Also let's not forget that Fr Pfluger's the man who imported Max "the Mossad friend with the Jєωιѕн name" Krah into the SSPX.

Do you people know that one of Fr Niklaus Pfluger's biological brothers, who's also an SSPX priest, is very sick by now? And some good clerics think that this brother bears the sickness in order to atone (expiation) for his brother Niklaus' doings. Well, I think it's possible.


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Long live Bishop Williamson!

Yes.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Incredulous on April 12, 2013, 03:29:01 AM
Oh boy, with Ethelred's help, this story is morphing into a cold war spy novel.

The letter has been traced to the evil secret agent MK28, who ate lox and bagels while typing it.

While the dashing English Bishop is stalked by the master German spy who reports to the big cheese in Menzingen.

I wonder if agent Rostand is going to make an appearance ?

I can't wait for Holly to post the next letter segment!
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Neil Obstat on April 12, 2013, 04:06:39 AM
Dear Ethelred,

Thank you very much for the corrections.  I would like to print this OP out,
even though it is yet incomplete, for personal reasons.  And I would like to
make your own comments, in part, a header on the letter.  I think that it
is well worth giving the uninformed readers who will see it a bit of a taste of
the context before they get into the actual words of this scuм-bag of a priest.

I don't think I have been quite this scandalized since I read excerpts from
the тαℓмυd that a friend supplied to me that contain blasphemies against
Our Lord and Our Lady.  This comes dangerously close to that.  

I'll make your corrections, too, such as the spelling of Fr. Pfluger's name.

And if it's not too much trouble, I know some German-speaking people who
would appreciate a copy in the original German.  

If nothing else, these very good translations could be used as examples of
how to do high quality translation work for those working with German and
English.  They could immortalize the despicable and sour attitude that this
SSPX priest shows to his SENIOR Bishop.


Quote from: Ethelred
Quote from: hollingsworth

I have secured permission to publish a private letter from Fr. [Niklaus Pfluger], 1st Asst. to Superior General Bernard Fellay,  to Bishop Richard Williamson.  The letter is almost two and one half years old, and was, of course, sent to His Excellency before the latter was expelled from the Society.  The letter was originally written in French.


Thanks Hollingsworth for posting this one.

Two minor corrections, though:

1) the letter was originally written in German, which unfortunately is the native language of the Swiss-German Fr Pfluger.  This German letter is dated 27 December 2010. The translation is dated 1 January 2011.
And the Judaizer Max Krah helped in writing the letter. Firstly, the original letter's word-docuмent has as creator "MK28" which is the Internet pseudonym of Max Krah (plus his age number when he started posting). Secondly, those knowing Krah's public and not-so-public writings in German, will recognise his many passages in the German original letter instantly.

2) The name of the father is Niklaus Pfluger, (not Phluger). It may be hard for Anglo-Saxons to spell this name (and actually you don't need to spell it, just write it), but still it's Pfluger. The German word Pflug means plough in English, so his name in English would translate to something like plough-er. :-)

Quote from: hollingsworth

I did not do the translation, but am certain that it is accurate and idiomatic.


A friend showed to me the German original and the English translation, and I can assure you that it is a professional translation. No surprise, because to my information His Excellency translated the letter from German to English (and we all know that his German is excellent).

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(To be continued)


Indeed. When do you post the rest of the letter? I would have hoped you had posted the entire letter in one go, because it really has to be read in one go in order to grasp it.



I don't think it's going to be a problem.  I am grasping this quite well as it
is, thank you very much.  And I don't mind having a breather in the meantime
because after all, I do want to get a few hours' sleep tonight and if I had read
the whole thing ---- ESPECIALLY SINCE WHAT COMES NEXT IS WORSE! ---
I'd rather have it stop here so I can let off some steam by typing this!!!!!!!!!!


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Since you e-mailed the complete letter to your mailing-list yesterday night, could you or somebody from this list post the entire letter soon here on CI please? Readers really need to get the entire ugly picture!


I will make a Word file to upload when the whole shebang is posted.
Then you can print that out for distribution.  This is the smoking gun.

I know a priest who is reluctant to put out much "bad news" from the Society
because "they haven't done much yet."  Well, this is pretty bad.  


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God have mercy on Fr. Pfluger.


Yes, indeed. A high ranking and faithful SSPX cleric titled Fr Pfluger as the "demon of the SSPX" with good reason. Also let's not forget that Fr Pfluger's the man who imported Max "the Mossad friend with the Jєωιѕн name" Krah into the SSPX.



Do you people know that one of Fr Niklaus Pfluger's biological brothers, who's also an SSPX priest, is very sick by now? And some good clerics think that this brother bears the sickness in order to atone (expiation) for his brother Niklaus' doings. Well, I think it's possible.




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Long live Bishop Williamson!

Yes.




The manner of Fr. Pfluger's speech is highly unworthy of his ordination.  This
is what Our Lady meant when she said priests are falling into hell.  I used to
wonder how that could be the case, but now I know.  

Bishop Williamson has spent over two years coping with this burden and
cross, unable to make it public out of a concern for common decency.  We
are indebted to to him for his fortitude and forebearance.  To think this kind
of thing exemplifies the sort of TRASHY ILL-TREATMENT he has endured over
the past several years is utterly ghastly.  I am HORRIFIED!!

 

When I first read the OP, the very first thing that hit me was the similarity
between this and the sour, disrespectful and HATEFUL attitude that it shares
with Fr. Schmidberger's comments regarding the Carmel St. Joseph that was
just recently posted here on CI.  I copy it here for those who don't know what
I am referring to:



Post (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=23448&min=20#p4)
Quote from: Mea Culpa
Quoting Fr. Schmidberger (below)......This seems to be a perfect description of Bp. Fellay and what he's actually doing to the SSPX!!!!


"This separation should remind us all of the warnings of the great Apostle Paul: "He that thinketh himself to stand, let him take heed lest he fall." (1 Cor 10:12). He does not 'say he who stands', but 'he who thinks that he stands',  precisely because many souls believe themselves in safety; they bathe themselves in virtue, while pride and self-righteousness have ensnared their hearts long ago. Stubbornness, self-righteousness, condescension, criticism, false dialectic, mockery and malice are not the gifts of the Holy Ghost, but characteristics of the adversary of God. It does not matter to him whether he causes the downfall of a soul through its well-known weaknesses, or through its pride of its own virtues. Too often the devil turns into an angel of light and performs his work of seduction sub specie boni – under the disguise of good. If one carries one’s own right too far, for example, the highest injustice can be done."



THEREFORE,

We have here two birds of a feather.  Fr. Pfluger and Fr. Schmidberger.  They
both are utterly rude and contemptuous of good, holy religious, the first of
a Bishop and the second of a Carmel cloister.  

They should be ashamed of themselves!  

And to think that Fr. Pfluger has the gall, the TEMERITY, to squeal toward
+Williamson that he ought to apologize to someone!  It is Fr. Pfluger who
should be doing the apologies!  Unbelievable!  

I really wish this could have been released before the stupid speech in Post
Falls yesterday.  


So, we already know a lot about the nefarious doings of +Fellay, and that
would leave only one suspect remaining.  Fr. Nely.  

Who has the goods on Fr. Nely?  What are his dirty deeds?  He couldn't be
squeaky clean with all this bad example in his company.  




Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Neil Obstat on April 12, 2013, 04:09:17 AM
Quote from: Incredulous
Oh boy, with Ethelred's help, this story is morphing into a cold war spy novel.

The letter has been traced to the evil secret agent MK28, who ate lox and bagels while typing it.

While the dashing English Bishop is stalked by the master German spy who reports to the big cheese in Menzingen.

I wonder if agent Rostand is going to make an appearance ?

I can't wait for Holly to post the next letter segment!



Uh, Incred., please don't knock the lox.  And please don't forget the cream cheese.

Sincerely,
a TOASTED bagel, lox and cream cheese fan.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Neil Obstat on April 12, 2013, 04:59:35 AM
I have omitted the usernames, as readers are not going to know anything
about that.  It might be too confusing for them.  If anyone has a problem
with this idea, let me know and I can fix it before I post the Word file for
downloading all over the world!!


FWIW here is the one-page intro I patched together from several posts here:


(An Internet source says):  

Quote:
I have secured permission to publish a private letter from Fr. Niklaus Pfluger, 1st Asst. to Superior General Bernard Fellay,  to Bishop Richard Williamson.  The letter is almost two and one half years old, and was, of course, sent to His Excellency before the latter was expelled from the Society.  The letter was originally written in German.

This German letter is dated 27 December 2010. The translation is dated 1 January 2011.  And the Judaizer Max Krah helped in writing the letter. Firstly, the original letter's word-docuмent has as creator "MK28" which is the Internet pseudonym of Max Krah (plus his age number when he started posting). Secondly, those knowing Krah's public and not-so-public writings in German, will recognise his many passages in the German original letter instantly.

I did not do the translation, but am certain that it is accurate and idiomatic.  A friend showed to me the German original and the English translation, and I can assure you that it is a professional translation. No surprise, because to my information His Excellency translated the letter from German to English (and we all know that his German is excellent).

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God have mercy on Fr. Pfluger.

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Yes, indeed. A high ranking and faithful SSPX cleric titled Fr. Pfluger as the "demon of the SSPX" with good reason. Also let's not forget that Fr. Pfluger's the man who imported Max "the Mossad friend with the Jєωιѕн name" Krah into the SSPX.

Do you people know that one of Fr. Niklaus Pfluger's biological brothers, who's also an SSPX priest, is very sick by now? And some good clerics think that this brother bears the sickness in order to atone (expiation) for his brother Niklaus' doings. Well, I think it's possible.

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Long live Bishop Williamson!

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An extremely rude letter to +Williamson...The sspx is always harping on "obedience" to one's superior, yet Fr. Pfluger displays enormously uncharitable, cheeky, obnoxious, and strikingly mean tone towards his superior, a Bishop no less...totally wrong, and completely reprehensible.

Quote:
The only purpose in writing this letter would be to provoke and elicit a response from Bishop Williamson which could later be used against him as evidence of insubordination for justifying his eventual and planned expulsion.

The letter itself follows:
 
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Mea Culpa on April 12, 2013, 08:28:47 AM
Quote from: hollingsworth

Letter from Fr Pfluger to Bishop Williamson, 1 January,  2011.


Alas, I know you do not ask yourself such questions. Nor do you ask why I, and with me Menzingen and almost the entire Society of St Pius X and the world while we are about it, why we merely shake our heads and are simply disappointed.
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(To be continued)


Fr. Pfluger admitting that they're (the neo-SSPX) one with the world.

Bishop Williamson must truly love and have much hope for the society to return to its sense to hold back from openly posting these types of letters. I'm sure His Excellency must have a ton of garbage like this poured unto his lap throughout the years, but being the gentleman and upright leader that he is, has opted not to.  

Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Charlotte NC Bill on April 12, 2013, 09:26:42 AM
"The letter of the one to the three" STRIKE ONE.."The April 14th Doctrinal Preamble" signed and never repudiated by Bp Fellay..STRIKE TWO..."The obnoxious letter of Fr. Pfluger to Bp Williamson" which reads like something Mossad asset Max Krah would write STRIKE THREE...As my tough as nails old baseball coach Mr Suarez would say, " give me three laps around the other batting cage.."  This is really the straw that breaks the camel's back as far as I'm concerned...
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: PerEvangelicaDicta on April 12, 2013, 10:03:01 AM
Ethelred - superb investigation.  This is all so ugly and devious.
Incredulous - as usual, LOL!  
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: hollingsworth on April 12, 2013, 11:32:50 AM
Ethelred:
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1) the letter was originally written in German, which unfortunately is the native language of the Swiss-German Fr Pfluger.  This German letter is dated 27 December 2010. The translation is dated 1 January 2011.
And the Judaizer Max Krah helped in writing the letter. Firstly, the original letter's word-docuмent has as creator "MK28" which is the Internet pseudonym of Max Krah (plus his age number when he started posting). Secondly, those knowing Krah's public and not-so-public writings in German, will recognise his many passages in the German original letter instantly.

2) The name of the father is Niklaus Pfluger, not Phluger. It may be hard for Anglo-Saxons to spell this name (and actually you don't need to spell it, just write it), but still it's Pfluger. The German word Pflug means plough in English, so his name in English would translate to something like plough-er. :-)


Thanks for the corrections.  The only date I had was the one appearing at the top of the French version in my files.  I did not know it was in German originally.  As for pulling it all together, I suppose someone could do that then the whole letter is put online.  I have just felt to release it in this manner, bit by bit.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Neil Obstat on April 12, 2013, 12:49:26 PM
In light of Fr. Pfluger's harangue of +W's cautions regarding war and "WWIII,"

--- What about the headlines on DICI.org these days?  


Switzerland: An Increase in the Recruiting of Jihadists (http://www.dici.org/en/news/switzerland-an-increase-in-the-recruiting-of-jihadists/)
12-04-2013  
Filed under News, The Church in the world [typ.]


Libya: Christian situation becomes increasingly difficult (http://www.dici.org/en/news/libya-christian-situation-becomes-increasingly-difficult/)


India: Four years after the anti-Christian massacres, the atmosphere remains “explosive” (http://www.dici.org/en/news/india-four-years-after-the-anti-christian-massacres-the-atmosphere-remains-explosive/)


Libya: A More and More Worrisome Climate for Christians (http://www.dici.org/en/news/libya-a-more-and-more-worrisome-climate-for-christians/)


Madagascar: A Nun αssαssιnαtҽd (http://www.dici.org/en/news/madagascar-a-nun-αssαssιnαtҽd/)


France: Facing the crisis of vocations (http://www.dici.org/en/news/france-facing-the-crisis-of-vocations/)


The "prophets of doom" don't need to go beyond the DICI news page to see
all they need to know.  But if you were to ask Fr. Pfluger about this, he would
no doubt say that there are other, more uplifting stories to be found there.  
That's how his masters in apostate Rome handle questions about Vat.II --
they just "turn the page" of the Vat.II docs, and look for what they want to see.  


Same old, same old.




Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Incredulous on April 12, 2013, 01:24:25 PM
Just trying to put Fr. Pfluger's letter into context with what was happening in the SSPX at the time.

In 2010, I was in a state of semi-depression over the fruits of the anti-Bp. Williamson campaign being carried out by the press and assisted by many in the SSPX.

It was around this time, when at a Sunday SSPX Mass, the pastor, from the pulpit feigned sadness, while saying it appeared necesary for +F to expel His Excellency from the Society.   I had the impulse to stand up and scream at him.

I believe the big breakthough report "Maximilian Krah and Menzingen, a Cause for Concern?" hit the web in November 2010 ?

When the Max Krah revelation hit the news and I was beaming!  I thanked Mother Mary for this consolation.

In any case, could Fr. Pfluger's (Max Krah's) letter written in Jan 2011, have been part of a counter-attack, in reponse to the Krah revelation?  
As suspected, were they trying to bait +W to respond in anger ?

The SSPX had been sailing at full speed prior to that story, but since then, they've slowed down and have now hit the doldrums.  
Its interesting to see the human interaction here and the graces or lack of, play out.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Quo Vadis Petre on April 12, 2013, 01:51:00 PM
The full letter with Michael Hoffman's comments are here: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bishop-Williamson-contra-the-Votaries-of-h0Ɩ0cαųstianity
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Incredulous on April 12, 2013, 02:50:09 PM
Quote from: Quo Vadis Petre
The full letter with Michael Hoffman's comments are here: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bishop-Williamson-contra-the-Votaries-of-h0Ɩ0cαųstianity



Many of the SSPX "bombshell" stories are linked to Dresden Max.

The doo doo tracks to Menzingen's doorway are very telling.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: John Grace on April 12, 2013, 02:56:57 PM
Quote from: Incredulous
Quote from: Quo Vadis Petre
The full letter with Michael Hoffman's comments are here: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bishop-Williamson-contra-the-Votaries-of-h0Ɩ0cαųstianity



Many of the SSPX "bombshell" stories are linked to Dresden Max.

The doo doo tracks to Menzingen's doorway are very telling.


Whilst on the subject of Dresden, earlier this evening I was re-reading a few chapters of Bleeding Germany Dry-The Aftermath of World War II from the German Perspective. Not pleasant or easy reading.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: hollingsworth on April 12, 2013, 03:57:13 PM
John Grace:
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Whilst on the subject of Dresden, earlier this evening I was re-reading a few chapters of Bleeding Germany Dry-The Aftermath of World War II from the German Perspective. Not pleasant or easy reading.


I've read half the book and had to set it down.  Page after page of that book filled with remorseless horror and suffering.  We dumb Americans have no idea.  And I guess a lot of you Europeans don't either.
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Croix de Fer on April 12, 2013, 06:16:53 PM
Quote from: Incredulous



Shocking... why they will become known as the "Phlugy Files".

Holly can syndicate letter segments to the international press.

While trads everywhere are eager to read them, the big fish (Remnant & CFN) won't subscribe, because it will hurt their SSPX advertising business.


"Pflugy Files" is a very appropriate name; also, somebody on another thread coined the term "Krahgate" (in reference to Krah and his cronies infecting the SSPX and the apparent usurpation of Menzingen).  :whistleblower:
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Neil Obstat on April 12, 2013, 08:31:01 PM
Any comments/concerns?  

And Hollingsworth - any chance for the second half today??

I propose to put the following intro at the top of the head of the Pfluger letter
as follows (I added a few more lines at the bottom, in addition to my
previous post):


Quote from: Neil Obstat
I have omitted the usernames, as readers are not going to know anything
about that.  It might be too confusing for them.  If anyone has a problem
with this idea, let me know and I can fix it before I post the Word file for
downloading all over the world!!


FWIW here is the one-page intro I patched together from several posts here:


(An Internet source says):  
Quote:
I have secured permission to publish a private letter from Fr. Niklaus
Pfluger, 1st Asst. to Superior General Bernard Fellay,  to Bishop Richard
Williamson.  The letter is almost two and one half years old, and was, of
course, sent to His Excellency before the latter was expelled from the
Society.  The letter was originally written in German.

This German letter is dated 27 December 2010. The translation is dated
1 January 2011. And the Judaizer Max Krah helped in writing the letter.
Firstly, the original letter's word-docuмent has as creator "MK28" which is
the Internet pseudonym of Max Krah (plus his age number when he
started posting). Secondly, those knowing Krah's public and not-so-public
writings in German, will recognise his many passages in the German
original letter instantly.

I did not do the translation, but am certain that it is accurate and
idiomatic.  A friend showed to me the German original and the English
translation, and I can assure you that it is a professional translation. No
surprise, because to my information His Excellency translated the letter
from German to English (and we all know that his German is excellent).

Quote:
God have mercy on Fr. Pfluger.

Quote:
Yes, indeed. A high ranking and faithful SSPX cleric titled Fr Pfluger as
the "demon of the SSPX" with good reason. Also let's not forget that Fr
Pfluger's the man who imported Max "the Mossad friend with the Jєωιѕн
name" Krah
into the SSPX.

Do you people know that one of Fr Niklaus Pfluger's biological brothers,
who's also an SSPX priest, is very sick by now? And some good clerics
think that this brother bears the sickness in order to atone (expiation) for
his brother Niklaus' doings. Well, I think it's possible.

Quote:
Long live Bishop Williamson!

Quote:
An extremely rude letter to +Williamson...The sspx is always harping on
"obedience" to one’s superior, yet Fr. Pfluger displays enormously
uncharitable, cheeky, obnoxious, and strikingly mean tone towards his
superior, a Bishop no less...totally wrong, and completely reprehensible.

Quote:
Bearing in mind the no-conversion rule has been breached, V2 is largely
accepted, new canon law recognised and doctrinal differences not
allowed to impede progress, the stage is now set for another parley with
a new regime in Rome.

Quote:
The only purpose in writing this letter would be to provoke and elicit a
response from Bishop Williamson which could later be used against him
as evidence of insubordination for justifying his eventual and planned
expulsion.

Quote:
Shocking... why, they will become known as the "Pflugy Files".  Holly can
syndicate letter segments to the international press. While trads
everywhere are eager to read them, the big fish (Remnant & CFN) won't
subscribe, because it will hurt their SSPX advertising business.

Quote:
Yes, it does show unbridled contempt and disrespect for the views of
Bishop Williamson. Does Bishop Williamson demand we assent to his
personal views?  Is he wrong to warn us of God's Wrath, the seeming
imminence of some terrible crisis or chastisement, given the awful state
of the world today?  Were the saints "scapegoating" the Jews when they
spoke of the Jєωιѕн role in the coming of the Antichrist?  Someone with
the Antichrist associates that this priest has should show a little bit of
respect and decency.  [Had too much of “Beggars Banquet”?]  Of course,
that's far too much to ask from cult bullies.


The letter itself follows:
 






It seems to me that all too many well-meaning Catholics are now finding
themselves OUT OF THE LOOP if they're depending on the likes of the
Remnant or even CFN to provide for them the news of what's really UP.


I believe it is a spiritual ACT OF MERCY - to instruct the ignorant, in putting
this brief summary of what is being said by INFORMED MINDS upon first
impressions with this deplorable outrage penned by Fr. Pfluger.  For
without some manner of context, they're not going to know what to think
of what they are about to read...........



I welcome your comments.........................    :chef:
Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: Neil Obstat on April 12, 2013, 08:44:04 PM

        In case anyone has forgotten what this thread is about, we are waiting
for Hollingsworth to post the second half of this letter from Fr. Niklaus Pfluger:






Letter from Fr Pfluger to Bishop Williamson, Dec 27th, A.D. 2010
(translation dated: 1 January,  2011).

Your Excellency,
Dear Bishop Williamson,

For months I have been meaning to write to you in order to bring up
everything so to speak incomprehensible and also false in the things you
have been saying over the last few years. I put it off since you never
brought up arguments and obviously feel personally hurt – rather unusual for
a free-thinking man. But after I could not help reading in your latest “Eleison
Comments” that “World War III may not be far off”, I am now writing before
time becomes short, because one never knows when time will run out.

This prophecy of yours took my mind back to the after-dinner speeches at
the Episcopal Consecrations of 1988, After the main event all four newly
consecrated bishops said a few words. Bishop Tissier as usual was very
theological and dogmatic. Bishop de Galarreta was short and discrete. Bishop
Fellay was pastoral and balanced. But you were principally concerned with
war. Perhaps you were already thinking of World War III when you cried out
to the assembly, “It’s war, it’s war !”. At that time it was still the Russians who
were due to attack. It would be quite a task to count up all the times in the
last 22 years that you have prophesied with precise dates the Third World
War and the Chastisement. At least a dozen times for sure. A task also to
work out why you have never asked yourself the question whether your
forecasting arises from objective analysis and not rather from subjective
utopianism.

Alas, I know you do not ask yourself such questions. Nor do you ask why I,
and with me Menzingen and almost the entire Society of St Pius X and the
world while we are about it, why we merely shake our heads and are simply
disappointed. (I attach extracts from two e-mails, the first coming from a
former pupil of yours, the second from a German town mayor.) For you it is
clear. Always somebody else is to blame. Everybody else is clueless, blind to
reality, agents of some organization or other, be it Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ or the Mossad
or the CIA,  most recently and emphatically “the Jews” – the list is long. In
brief, anybody who disagrees with you is either stupid or wicked or both. To
any of the people who have rejected your constant warnings of war and your
crude political and economic theories, and who have criticized you for them –
there are many such people, and some have even been offended -- have you
ever apologized ?  Have you apologized to one single one ?  Would you ever be
capable of saying, “I was wrong” ?

In fact that is a blatantly semitic [sic] way of thinking: to pin one’s own faults
on a scapegoat, which bears the guilty for everything. That is what Hitler did.
The Germans’ own defeat of November 9, 1918 produced a hatred for
international Jewry, which was responsible for all evil in the German nation and
therefore had to be “fought openly and without mercy”.

This problem is to be seen at another point in the latest “Eleison Comments”.
You wrote there: “Derivatives… act upon the delicate mechanisms of world
finance like weapons of mass destruction, because they easily fabricate an
unreal world of colossal and unpayable debt.”  To which one smart [sic] reader
replied, “The Bishop is showing off – 'delicate mechanisms of world finance' --
as though he sees through the mechanisms of world finance and could point
out their weaknesses.” You could not do that. No more can you see through the
highly complex connections of politics, or the nαzιs’ mass-murder of Jews. You
have an opinion, then you look around for a few unconnected details which
somehow fit this opinion (for instance the “Leuchter Report”), and you hawk it
all as the truth...[/b][/color]

................(To be continued).................




We really ought to write to Fr. Pfluger and thank him for exposing his true

self this way, for now 'THE MASK IS OFF' and we don't have to wonder what

he is about nor who he really is, anymore.  





Title: A letter from Fr. Pfluger to Bp. Williamson, 1111
Post by: PAT317 on April 12, 2013, 09:39:39 PM
Quote from: Neil Obstat

        In case anyone has forgotten what this thread is about, we are waiting
for Hollingsworth to post the second half of this letter from Fr. Niklaus Pfluger:


I thought the whole thing was here (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Bishop-Williamson-contra-the-Votaries-of-h0Ɩ0cαųstianity).