The sheer POWER of formation on an individual. One's family upbringing, their "culture", forms who we are for life. Our environment, our teachers, teach us what questions to ask, and the best way to look at the world. One's friends, parents, teachers, peers, the school one attends, etc. make near-indelible marks on one's character.
this seems you are leaving no place for Grace. how does a Bartolo Longo fit in this scenario, he was a satanist before his conversion, do we all dispair because of not having a perfect formation? did this thing ever exist? when in church history did we have the perfect society?
we are supposed to be progressing in our faith daily. we should be different today than yesterday. we should be transforming through the sacraments.
Of course, Grace is more important for salvation, but it is much harder to live a good Catholic life without a good formation. There is a constant struggle against bad habits and poor understanding. It is like trying to run a race while carrying a heavy weight.
We are all influenced by Liberalism and Modernism no matter what. I have many children who were born into Tradition (SSPX) and they still struggle like we all do. We are surrounded by perhaps the greatest collection of filth that ever was and in Europe it is even worse. There are perhaps
hundreds of children all the way up to young adults, born into SSPX tradition in my town. Many show fruits of holiness, some not, but may come back in the end. They are exposed to the same temptations that all children now are. One of our priests told us that is why he expects a chastisement soon, because children can no longer be expected to reach adulthood without losing their innocence, for the first time in Christendom.
To JayneK, I would say this; many of the things we do, the sins and poor choices we have made out of poor formation and ignorance, once we have converted or recovered ourselves, can and will be used for our sanctification. Just as Our Lord's ugly wounds now shine and glow with the beauty of rare jewels, so will those things we have repented of. Our Lord said, "I make all things new" and He also said "My yoke is sweet and My burden light." While sometimes our past tempts us to despair and be sluggish, if we have truly repented, the memory of those things we are now ashamed of will prevent that most pernicious poison, pride, and once overcome will actually be a source of glory in Heaven.
Finally, I know a person very well (not myself) who converted as an adult and learned more about the Faith in a few years than most of the cradle Catholics know after a lifetime. It is all about desire. Often it has been said that when the Jews convert, they will be the
best Catholics. Many of our greatest saints had Jєωιѕн ancestry. They are people of great desire, and once it is focused on God...watch out. :wink: