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Offline Francisco

Re: A Dead Man Can't Defend Himself ! T.I.A. Fake News !
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2019, 09:28:11 AM »
Quote from: Incredulous on June 21, 2019, 07:50:31 PM
Oh my goodness, the Philippino Queen of calumny speakest of sin :jester:
Philippines? 
Are you aware that the SSPX priest involved in the Our Lady of Good Success controversy was once based in the Philippines?
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Offline Meg

Re: A Dead Man Can't Defend Himself ! T.I.A. Fake News !
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2019, 12:46:13 PM »
Quote from: Cera on June 25, 2019, 05:18:53 PM
Thank you for looking at the big picture and putting things into perspective.

I'll second that!
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Offline Last Tradhican

Re: A Dead Man Can't Defend Himself ! T.I.A. Fake News !
« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2019, 03:50:17 PM »
Quote from: Matthew on June 24, 2019, 08:06:25 AM
A Traditional Catholic priest says:

Once again (get used to it, it happens constantly) you have a case of PROJECTION.

The TIA worships their founder as a cult does, and so they PROJECT that onto the SSPX and Abp. Lefebvre.
They assume everyone does as they do. It's classic.

Sorry, TIA. Supporters of the SSPX, Resistance, and Abp. Lefebvre do so for DOCTRINAL reasons. Even if it came out that +Lefebvre committed unmentionable crimes (which is ridiculous given his holy life, but bear with me for this hypothetical), I wouldn't question my support of the Resistance (the heir to +Lefebvre's SSPX). I wouldn't start shaking, have a nervous breakdown, question everything, and end up joining the Conciliar Church or something. On the contrary, it wouldn't faze me.

That's because my support is built on a foundation of stone -- of doctrine -- and I can't question doctrine or objective truth. My support isn't based on feelings or the personality of one man. Men can fall. That doesn't mean my support of the truth can fall. Any man can have a tragic downfall; it's even easier for a man to commit a single mistake! But that doesn't mean we should abandon the best, safest position to be in during the Crisis in the Church.
Your insistence on condemning TIA's Atila Guimaraes is based on emotion, what do you think, that they are going to turn anyone that reads their articles into Plinio zombies?  What your anonymous priest told you says nothing, it is just one priest's warning, why should anyone listen to an anonymous priest who says just that "they are dangerous"? How exactly is the TIA websie dangerous? I've never seen the TIA ask anyone to worship Plinio. Besides no, organization today is without a dangerous feature and one has to be aware of it, but to dismiss the TIA website with all of its pure Catholic teachings because a priest says Plinio was dangerous, is pure foolishness.

It is akin to I totally dismissing the SSPX and all of the sede groups because they teach that Mohamedans, Jews, Hindus.... people in any false religion can be saved by their belief in a God that rewards, in fact, it is worse to dismiss the TIA website, for they do not teach, push any such teachings. (P.S.- I've been going to SSPX chapels for over 20 years and I would go to a sede chapel if there was one close by, as long as I was certain about the validity of the priest)

To the person who posted the Plionio Slaves docuмent, thanks for the warning, but I would not become a slave to any man, so it is good to know, but not of any other use to me.

That is the problem with people who follow personalities, and most people follow personalities, defending them as if they were personally being attacked. This is what the SSPXers do with the SSPX and Abp. Lefebvre, Bp. Williamson, Bp. Fellay……..

I follow only truth.

(by the way,  Bp. Willamson many times has said everything I wrote about following truth)
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Offline Cera

Re: A Dead Man Can't Defend Himself ! T.I.A. Fake News !
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2019, 06:52:41 PM »
Quote from: Last Tradhican on June 26, 2019, 03:50:17 PM
what do you think, that they are going to turn anyone that reads their articles into Plinio zombies?  
As you well know (that is, if you actually read the replies to your posts) -- the distinction between the seemingly Catholic articles on the TIA website and the anti-Catholic nature of mocking the consecration to Our Blessed Mother by making a consecration to a living and fallen (as we all are) human being is vast.




This vast distinction has already been addressed. The secret society of Plinio- worship, "praying" to Plinio and becoming a slave to Plinio is within the secret society within the larger organization. Of course these anti-Catholic actions are unknown to the larger membership.




The comparison to Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ is accurate because that is exactly how the secret society within Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ operates. You would understand how much you sound like a Porch Mason if you had ever attempted to speak to one about what Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ actually is. They will loudly deny the sad truth and ardently defend the Porch group to which they belong -- wrongly thinking that the Porch is all that exists.
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Offline BC

Re: A Dead Man Can't Defend Himself ! T.I.A. Fake News !
« Reply #24 on: July 02, 2019, 05:57:13 PM »
The letter was signed by a Mr. Christopher Shannon, dated from 1997. Perhaps if he is still living, some one can locate him and ask about his opinions from his experience at Econe, and why it seems there has not been any similar accusations against Msgr Lefebvre..
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