Hello I’m new here so please be gentle.
The John Lane’s post came to my attention only just yesterday and today I “wasted” my precious time to read it at this and other forum.
I was present when Fr Johnson gave the sermon that Sunday and it is correct nothing was said in that Sunday sermon regarding the resistance (if we are talking about the proper sermon for Sunday mass, sorry for technicality), BUT!!! There’s always a but, before the sermon Fr Johnson gave a short speech regarding the resistance.
I am that person who told that lady in John Lane’s post the content of Fr Johnson’s speech and she did ask my permission to tell others.
So please give me some time (a day or two) and I’ll let you know to the best of my memory what was said that day.
So watch this space, God Bless

Thanks Polak, am interested in what happened and of-course John Lanes damaged control reply.
Yes, when ever we here from the neoSSPX now-days we have to look for a but and invariably find it, sad to see but so true.

This is my story and please bear with me as English is my second language:

After posting here my promise of letting you know the content of Fr Johnson’s speech I went on to register at Ballarmine forums run by John Lane as I was going to post there first. Couple of hours later I have received a phone call from the man himself as we have been friends for a long time. He asked me few questions and who posted “my post” here as he though it was my wife, yes with Polak as a username, of course it was me I said. I couldn’t  talk at that time so I called him few hours later to continue the discussion. After few agreements and disagreements and me reading out my following post to John I was verbally refused access to his forum and posting it.
He did strongly advise me against it, protecting/defending Fr Johnson vigorously and promised to fight my comments.
So here it is for the whole world to see just like my declaration.

Two weeks prior to the sermon in question Fr Johnson gave a small speech before a sermon at Sunday mass regarding resistance. He has told the parishioners that there is a few stupid troublemakers out there in some parishes as well as Jolimont and that all has begun in Europe/France and that these troublemakers have always been making trouble.
At that time I have heard very little of this resistance and honestly I didn’t care. When my wife showed me the “declaration” and she put my name down which was ok with me as I don’t see anything wrong and against my or anyone’s faith by asking some questions to which I still don’t have solid and clear answer.
Two weeks later same speech took place at Sunday mass before the sermon.
Fr Johnson said that Brother Eric has visited resistance-australia.boards website and there was a declaration with all the names of Australian faithful who signed it for the whole world to see, how stupid he said, stupid troublemakers he repeated couple of times . I don’t want these people in my parish, I don’t want nothing from them and I have nothing to give to them he said.
Then he spoke that someone’s name was put there without their permission, and then he said that anyone on that list (and he knows all the names) if they change their mind they will have to come and talk to him and apologize and then they have to make public denouncement of the resistance.
I was ready to walk out at that point, he then continue with Sunday sermon, to which I didn’t listen as I was still digesting what was said in the speech.
I walked out after the sermon, upset, I was almost in tears as I know I done nothing wrong.
I grew up in communist Poland and my first words to my wife when she came out from the church were: spoken like a true communist, what about the story of prodigal son?
Did he have to make public apology?
From then on I went to research and find out more about the resistance and regarding my name on the declaration for the whole world to see:
Can someone please make it in bold so the whole universe can see!!
This is true and as accurate as I can remember.

The truth will prevail in the end.
God Bless,
John Bieganski the Polak

This is true and as accurate as I can remember.

The truth will prevail in the end.
God Bless,
John Bieganski the Polak

I retract my earlier comments.  Thank you for your comments.

Mr. Bieganski,

I wonder if you'd be willing to share with us what you've done since? Have you gone back to Mass at Jolimont? ...found somewhere else to receive the Sacraments?

I feel especially bad for your situation since it was not your intention to "join" the Resistance to begin with.

We'll remember you and your wife in our Rosary today.

 Couple of hours later I have received a phone call from the man himself as we have been friends for a long time. He asked me few questions and who posted “my post” here as he though it was my wife, yes with Polak as a username, of course it was me I said. I couldn’t  talk at that time so I called him few hours later to continue the discussion. After few agreements and disagreements and me reading out my following post to John I was verbally refused access to his forum and posting it.

Wow.

And there's nothing quite like being booted out of a chapel for no good reason!!!

This entire issue saddens me.  It is abundantly clear to me that there are many differing views on the whole affair and I am 100% confused.  I don't doubt the reports of individuals saying what they heard, but I also think that many people seem to have heard different things, or, at least, their understanding of what they thought they heard is colored.  Since, at this time, I have no relationship with either the SSPX or the resistance to the SSPX, I think I will keep my distance from the issue.  Unfortunately, I think, this schism amongst traditional Catholics affects us all.

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Mr. Bieganski,

I wonder if you'd be willing to share with us what you've done since? Have you gone back to Mass at Jolimont? ...found somewhere else to receive the Sacraments?
We'll remember you and your wife in our Rosary today.

No, I did not go back to Jolimont and I will try to make it when resistance prist comes over here. Thanks for your prayers.
God Bless

I was under the impression that the independent American priest Fr Kevin Vaillancourt serviced Perth, Western Australia......

Hello I’m new here so please be gentle.

You haven't a thing to worry about, my good friend.  Some of the smartest people in the world are Polish, and I've never met one anywhere that doesn't have an excellent sense of humor.

The John Lane’s post came to my attention only just yesterday and today I “wasted” my precious time to read it at this and other forum.

I was present when Fr. Johnson gave the sermon that Sunday and it is correct nothing was said in that Sunday sermon regarding the resistance (if we are talking about the proper sermon for Sunday mass, sorry for technicality), BUT!!! There’s always a but, before the sermon, Fr. Johnson gave a short speech regarding the resistance.

I am that person who told that lady in John Lane’s post the content of Fr. Johnson’s speech and she did ask my permission to tell others.

So please give me some time (a day or two) and I’ll let you know to the best of my memory what was said that day.
So watch this space, God Bless

That was his first post, then 9 hours later is his second post:  

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This is my story and please bear with me as English is my second language:

After posting here my promise of letting you know the content of Fr. Johnson’s speech, I went on to register at Ballarmine forums run by John Lane, as I was going to post there first.

A couple of hours later I [had] received a phone call from the man himself as we have been friends for a long time. He [had] asked me few questions and who posted “my post” here as he though it was my wife, yes with Polak as a username;  "of course it was me," I [had] said. I couldn’t talk at that time so I called him few hours later to continue the discussion.

After few agreements and disagreements and me reading out my following post to John, I was verbally refused access to his forum and [from] posting [on] it.

He did strongly advise me against it, protecting/defending Fr Johnson vigorously, and promised to fight my comments.

So here it is for the whole world to see just like my declaration.

It would seem we may have here one of the original authors of the excellent AustralAsian Declaration in our midst.  

Two weeks prior to the sermon in question Fr. Johnson gave a small speech before a sermon at Sunday Mass regarding [the] resistance. He has told the parishioners that there [are] a few stupid troublemakers out there in some parishes, as well as Jolimont, and that all [this] has begun in Europe/France, and that these troublemakers have always been making trouble.

I used to wonder why liberal priests like to make some snide comments like this before they start their sermon, as if it's part of the "announcements" -- the reason is, they'd like to hold out the option of later denying that they had said any such thing "in their sermon."  How convenient!

At that time, I [had] heard very little of this resistance and honestly I didn’t care. When my wife showed me the “declaration” and she put my name down which was ok with me,  as I don’t see anything wrong and against my or anyone’s faith by asking some questions to which I still don’t have solid and clear answer.

Two weeks later same speech took place at Sunday mass before the sermon.
Fr Johnson said that Brother Eric has visited [the] http://resistance-australia.boards.net/ website and there was a declaration with all the names of Australian faithful who signed it for the whole world to see.  "How stupid," he said, "stupid troublemakers," he repeated couple of times.  "I don’t want these people in my parish, I don’t want nothing from them, and I have nothing to give to them," he said.

Then he spoke that someone’s name was put there without their permission, and then he said that anyone on that list (and he knows all the names) if they change their mind they will have to come and talk to him and apologize and then they have to make public denouncement of the resistance.

I was ready to walk out at that point.  He then continued with [his] Sunday sermon, to which I didn’t listen, as I was still digesting what was said in the speech.

I walked out after the sermon, upset;  I was almost in tears, as I [knew] I [had] done nothing wrong.

I grew up in communist Poland and my first words to my wife when she came out from the church were:  spoken like a true communist, what about the story of prodigal son?  Did he have to make public apology?

I have known several survivors of Communism who have come to America, and I must say here that your testimony is invaluable.  There are those of us who are eager to listen to your hard-won wisdom, and we will not hold it against you in any way what you have to conclude because we know God has put you in our midst such that we might know the truth.  Please do not be afraid to speak out!  Your words are as a soothing balm to our sore ears -- ears that have been pummeled by the bludgeoning of liberalism in speech and written words.

You can rest assured your voice has the fullest freedom right here on CathInfo, as you have already seen.

From then on, I went to research and [found] out more about the resistance and regarding my name on the declaration for the whole world to see:  Can someone please make it in bold so the whole universe can see!!

This is true and as accurate as I can remember.

The truth will prevail in the end.

God Bless,
John Bieganski, the Polak

It's kind of nice that your name is John, because "John" needs a bit of new life after John Lane, John Grasmeier and John XXIII dragged it through the mud.

For the record, J. Bieg's rep score is 23 after only 3 posts.  This one above has 8 thumbs up and 0 down, after only one day.  I must say that this is one instance where the thumb votes are working properly!  HAHAHA

But seriously, Polak obviously has nerves of steel.  Here is a man who has not run away scared and has stepped forward with the goods.  To be honest, I read Matthew's assessment before I read Polak's story and I'm glad I did, because every word is appropriate.  Mr. Bieg, you deserve a medal of honor, for having survived a Communist upbringing and yet remained Catholic, and then later to provide this clarification for all to see.  I would only ask that perhaps you would be so kind as to send an e-mail to Ed. at TheRecusant and tell him I asked you to thank him for his accuracy on Page 35 of Issue #16, because after reading the excoriating drivel of John Lane I had been under the impression that some manner of retraction would be in order.  As it is, I'm at liberty to retype the entire paragraph here:


Australian neo-SSPX:  more unjust threats  - Fr. Shane Johnson, Western Australia, used a recent sermon to attack those who had signed the AustralAsian Declaration [a copy of which appears on pp. 25-31 of the same issue], saying that they needed to be humiliated and do public penance before they would be allowed back to Mass and the sacraments.



It seems to me that John Lane is to the SSPX what Karl Keating is to Newchurch, and what Brother Guy Cosolmagno is to nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr science.  In their minds, their respective demigod organization can do no wrong.  In this way, they have become the useful idiots of Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ and/or Communism (there really isn't much practical difference).  They don't have to be Freemasons or card-carrying Communists in order to do the work of same.


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