Author Topic: 25th Anniversary declaration (Read 1934 times)

Marlelar · « **on:** June 30, 2013, 04:09:57 PM »

The complete text of the Declaration was read in place of a sermon this morning at the Phoenix Chapel. I put out my back so was not able to attend myself but I'm wondering about the reaction at other chapels.

What was the reaction at your chapel?

Marsha

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #1 on:** June 30, 2013, 04:43:10 PM »

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A dear friend of mine has dear friends at the Phoenix chapel and
she says that her friends are very concerned over the division
that is developing there.

I hope someone in the audience was able to stand up and
say a choice word when the 11th paragraph was read.

I would have shouted, "THAT'S GREAT, FATHER -- BUT
COULD YOU PLEASE REPEAT THAT PARAGRAPH ELEVEN
ONCE MORE AND SPEAK IT S-L-O-W-L-Y THIS TIME?
THANK YOU." (Say this while still seated.)

He would not have a word to say against me, because then
I would then STAND UP, and repeat myself, EVEN
LOUDER the second time, and then anyone whose
hearing aid isn't working would have had no problem all of a
sudden. (The second time, use slightly different words, for
variety's sake.)

If he tries to denounce me a second time, I would then show
him HOW LOUD LOUD CAN BE.

(Slight modification of the words, again -- keeps their attention.)

That's how you can make everyone within earshot know there
is something suspicious about the eleventh paragraph.

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #2 on:** June 30, 2013, 04:56:15 PM »

It was read to us. No commentary offered. I'm interested if other chapels also had a sermon, particularly a sermon commenting on the declaration.

Machabees · « **Reply #3 on:** June 30, 2013, 05:11:44 PM »

Yes, prior to reading that "script", the priest said that Fr. Rostand told all of the priests in the U.S District to read that (phony) declaration in place of the Sunday sermon.

Very Sad..."pony show".

As I had said before in "Love letter from the closet", this is the "new face" of Menzingen until there is another opportunity with conciliar Rome to betray us again.

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #4 on:** June 30, 2013, 05:36:51 PM »

No one seemed to talk about it after Mass except for myself and a couple of friends...Our impression was/is that the upper mgmnt of the SSPX tailors it's msg to suit the audience...Will tell rome, in secret, that they'll accept something else...They did it before..But most people probably accepted it at face value...or they didn't care and were just glad it was shorter than the typical sermon..

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #5 on:** June 30, 2013, 05:45:11 PM »

The story isn't so much that they're lying about the declaration, but that it comes directly on the heels of them saying and doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

It was barely two weeks ago that they did a mass mailing campaign to defend the deal and the AFD, which this new declaration contradicts.

It's not all that dissimilar from when one of these VII popes says something orthodox by accident. It doesn't have a whole lot of weight when it's surrounded by them saying the opposite.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #6 on:** June 30, 2013, 06:11:44 PM »

Quote from: Mithrandylan

The story isn't so much that they're lying about the declaration, but that it comes directly on the heels of them saying and doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

It was barely two weeks ago that they did a mass mailing campaign to defend the deal and the AFD, which this new declaration contradicts.

It's not all that dissimilar from when one of these VII popes says something orthodox by accident. It doesn't have a whole lot of weight when it's surrounded by them saying the opposite.

:rahrah: RAH :rahrah: RAH :rahrah:

Charlotte NC Bill · « **Reply #7 on:** June 30, 2013, 06:47:12 PM »

On the way home I told the wife I wish we had gone to Vienna, Va...but it's 6 1/2 hrs away...still, it would have been worth it to see " true sons of the ArchBp " defending his legacy and celebrating the Consecrations ( and all that they meant )..

Zeitun · « **Reply #8 on:** June 30, 2013, 06:53:47 PM »

Maybe there will be no future dialogue with Rome because a deal was already struck...last year????
:surprised:

Frances · « **Reply #9 on:** June 30, 2013, 06:54:25 PM »

Bill, it was worth the drive. It will all be on-line.
Frances

Marlelar · « **Reply #10 on:** June 30, 2013, 07:10:30 PM »

Quote from: Mithrandylan

The story isn't so much that they're lying about the declaration, but that it comes directly on the heels of them saying and doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

Exactly! Has anyone asked their local priest about this contradiction?

Marsha

Zeitun · « **Reply #11 on:** June 30, 2013, 07:30:45 PM »

Glad others noticed it as well.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #12 on:** July 01, 2013, 09:30:51 AM »

Quote from: Charlotte NC Bill

On the way home I told the wife I wish we had gone to Vienna, Va...but it's 6 1/2 hrs away...still, it would have been worth it to see " true sons of the ArchBp " defending his legacy and celebrating the Consecrations ( and all that they meant )..

7 hours would have been not an issue. For me it was 50 hours
one way and 50 hours return trip. You don't know how good
you have it. :reporter:

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #13 on:** July 01, 2013, 09:34:52 AM »

Quote from: Marlelar

Quote from: Mithrandylan
The story isn't so much that they're lying about the declaration, but that it comes directly on the heels of them saying and doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

Exactly! Has anyone asked their local priest about this contradiction?

Marsha

Don't forget -- while you're at it, ask your local priest about
the hermeneutic of continuity.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #14 on:** July 01, 2013, 09:36:16 AM »

Quote from: Marlelar

Quote from: Mithrandylan
The story isn't so much that they're lying about the declaration, but that it comes directly on the heels of them saying and doing THE EXACT OPPOSITE.

Exactly! Has anyone asked their local priest about this contradiction?

Marsha

Don't forget -- while you're at it, ask your local priest about
the hermeneutic of continuity.

And while you're at it , ask your priest about the principle of
non-contradiction.