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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Geremia on May 25, 2025, 05:58:30 PM

Title: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Geremia on May 25, 2025, 05:58:30 PM
What are the 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers?
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: WorldsAway on May 25, 2025, 06:04:01 PM
Maybe I just missed them but I don't recall seeing a list of transfers the past couple years
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Ladislaus on May 25, 2025, 07:22:58 PM
Maybe I just missed them but I don't recall seeing a list of transfers the past couple years

You can't even find a comprehensive list of current "assignments" anymore, much less a transfer list.

I've long wondered what was behind this, and the only thing I keep coming back to has to do with a certain amount of arrogance, where it's "none of the laity's business" what we do, especially if there's a concern about the NO transfers who have not been conditionally ordained.
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Geremia on May 25, 2025, 09:21:52 PM
especially if there's a concern about the NO transfers who have not been conditionally ordained.
A "NO transfer" is happening at the chapel here…
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: AnthonyPadua on May 25, 2025, 11:29:05 PM
A "NO transfer" is happening at the chapel here…
Ouch, that's one of my biggest fears. If that happens to my I have no options for mass other than greek Ukrainian Catholic.
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: AMDGJMJ on May 26, 2025, 06:33:32 AM
A "NO transfer" is happening at the chapel here…
:pray:
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Ladislaus on May 26, 2025, 07:03:07 AM
It might be worth asking the priest in question.  In some cases, the priests have requested conditional and it may have been conferred (perhaps e.g. by a +Tissier when he was here in the US).
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Seraphina on May 26, 2025, 08:43:41 AM
Ouch, that's one of my biggest fears. If that happens to my I have no options for mass other than greek Ukrainian Catholic.
Unless you can move, you join the ranks of the involuntarily home alone. Or, if you have enough family, friends, you might be able to get a priest to make an occasional visit, either at your home or a rented facility. You’ll also have to cover the priest’s travel costs, accommodations, food, plus supply at least a makeshift altar, etc. Barring that, there are a number of livestream Masses online that you can at least follow. 
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Crayolcold on May 26, 2025, 09:00:49 AM
I was not at this Mass, but apparently it was announced yesterday at Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix, that a Novus Ordo priest would be assigned there. Does anyone have more information on this priest or whether he was conditionally reordained? 

Other than that, Fr. Pons is leaving for Idaho (from what I have heard), Fr. Gillilan is going to Texas, and Brother Alphonsus who has been there for 25 years is going to New York.

Not sure why OLOS is getting the NO priest. A lot of parishioners there seem very friendly to the NO, so perhaps the SSPX leadership though that is where this "priest" would be most accepted. Does anyone have further information?
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: OABrownson1876 on May 26, 2025, 10:46:51 AM
It should be a standing rule in the SSPX that any NO priest should receive conditional ordination if he was ordained in the new rite.  This topic came up at seminary and a few of us told Bp. Williamson, "Even if the priest thinks that his ordination is valid in the new rite, he should, for the sake of the conscience of the faithful, be conditionally ordained."  Of course this brings up the SSPX Can of Worms, if and when Bp. Fellay meets with Pope Leo, the issue should necessarily arise, "Well, Holy Father, you have been ordained in the new rite, both priesthood and bishopric, we have big problems.  And oh, the New Mass is sacrilegious."   
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Ladislaus on May 26, 2025, 11:13:47 AM
At some point the lay faithful should stand up to the SSPX bullying ...

Boycott any collection money until they send you a priest who's been at least conditionally ordained

Or, better yet, just everyone stage a walk-out, where the entire congregation walk out at the beginning of Mass after the NO presider waltzes in

And call the presider "Mr. [last name]" and not "Father".

At some point the lay faithful have to show a set of cajones and stop leeting the arrogant SSPX bullies throw their weight around.

If they want to close the chapel, tell them to be your guest, since it's worthless anyway with a doubtful priest.

All so they can play footsie wtih the Modernists.  That's the only actual reason they stopped doing the conditionals.  Period.
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Geremia on May 26, 2025, 12:00:03 PM
Is there a list of the Novus Ordo priests who've gone through the SSPX priest training program?
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Crayolcold on May 26, 2025, 12:29:32 PM
I was not at this Mass, but apparently it was announced yesterday at Our Lady of Sorrows in Phoenix, that a Novus Ordo priest would be assigned there. Does anyone have more information on this priest or whether he was conditionally reordained?

According to Father McFarland's sermon at 11am Mass, the new priest is named Fulton. Sounds like he very recently just finished the priestly training program and perhaps is new to tradition. Hopefully we will have more information about his ordination status soon.
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Geremia on May 26, 2025, 12:29:37 PM
Maybe I just missed them but I don't recall seeing a list of transfers the past couple years
It seems to have ended in 2023 (https://web.archive.org/web/20200919000713/https://sspx.org/en/priests-assignments-district-united-states) (2021 (https://web.archive.org/web/20210309162557/https://sspx.org/en/priests-assignments-district-united-states) & 2020 (https://web.archive.org/web/20200919000713/https://sspx.org/en/priests-assignments-district-united-states)).
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: DustyActual on May 26, 2025, 12:45:42 PM
My SSPX priest told us that St. Jude's in Philly will no longer be serviced by the Ridgefield priory, but by the Syracuse priory, and that Fr. Steven Webber will be moved to Syracuse.
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Minnesota on May 26, 2025, 02:39:19 PM

Maybe I just missed them but I don't recall seeing a list of transfers the past couple years
Same. The lack of transparency is not good.
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Geremia on May 26, 2025, 04:10:27 PM
SsPX trains NO lay priests in Denver.
Indeed, they do. St Isidore's, Denver, CO, is where the one we're getting is coming from.
Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Seraphina on May 26, 2025, 04:28:14 PM
Indeed, they do. St Isidore's, Denver, CO, is where the one we're getting is coming from.
Trains them, but are they conditionally ordained? 
Anyone with average intelligence and the physical ability can learn to say Mass in the Latin Rite.  It doesn’t mean he’s a priest any more than “Pancho” is Catholic!  🦜 

https://youtu.be/XJ-pPZzvVK0?si=osdtA_FuPCZQja1h



Title: Re: 2025 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Geremia on May 26, 2025, 05:44:10 PM
Trains them, but are they conditionally ordained?
Who knows…
Title: Re: 2016 - 17 SSPX U.S. district transfers
Post by: Twice dyed on May 26, 2025, 09:46:48 PM
Maybe I just missed them but I don't recall seeing a list of transfers the past couple years
OFFICIAL!
From 2016 Assignments Notice..

[Cath Info had a thread back then, and has 54 K views!!! And this thread already has 900 views, in only 30 hours! 
That shows a basic quest to know what's happening. Sspx was communicating with the thirsty faithful; now...things are different.]
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https://sspx.org/en/news/assignments-us-district-2016-2017-7844

"...Priories have been set throughout the United States where priests reside on a full-time basis before travelling to mission chapels in nearby locations. Each summer, around the feast of the Assumption, the priests arrive at their assignments. This scheduling is a massive undertaking—like a real-life game of chess—which begins the evening of the ordinations at St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary, and often doesn't become finalized until the very beginning of August!
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We hope this list—which is subject to change—can be of help to the faithful, and shed some light on the great undertaking of providing care to so many thirsty souls in these times.