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Offline SeanJohnson

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Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
« Reply #30 on: May 31, 2022, 01:26:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on May 31, 2022, 01:02:15 PM
    This fr. Daniel cooper?

    -“We must obey Bp. Fellay because he has grace of state.”
    -“Resistance is a step away from sedevacantism.”
    -“The Society needs to make a deal with Modernist Rome so that it has the authority to provide the sacraments, etc.”
    https://catholiccandle.neocities.org/priests/sspx-cooper-letter-refuted.html

    "...when the abuse had been reported years earlier to the SSPX priest in charge of St. Thomas at the time, Fr. Daniel Cooper, he disregarded it and did not report it to police."
    https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/transcript-spotlight-sspx

    "i went to father Daniel Cooper. And he said. I will not testify against the brother priest, so he was father Daniel Cooper was unwilling to help you.."
    https://fb.watch/dm4iR9WcKQ/

    Yup, he’s the one, God bless him.

    Obviously, I wish he’d have come over to the Resistance, but despite what he said above, he was the only one in the SSPX willing to go public in his defense of Bishop Williamson (a level of integrity which sounds the bullshit alarm as being incongruent with your two CM links).

    I’d take wooden nickels before believing anything from CM impugning Fr. Cooper’s moral quality.
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #31 on: May 31, 2022, 03:56:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 31, 2022, 12:44:08 PM
    I did bring this up on another thread and don't know if I saw a reply.

    Nearly ALL the Traditional bishops (SSPX, SV, Resistance, +Thuc line, etc.) wield croziers, which I have read to be a sign of the jurisdiction he has over his flock, and typically shouldn't even be used outside his diocese.
    Some turn it towards themselves in relation to this: https://mobile.twitter.com/engl1shtradcat/status/1531623780291846145
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #32 on: May 31, 2022, 04:08:17 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 31, 2022, 12:44:08 PM
    I did bring this up on another thread and don't know if I saw a reply.

    Nearly ALL the Traditional bishops (SSPX, SV, Resistance, +Thuc line, etc.) wield croziers, which I have read to be a sign of the jurisdiction he has over his flock, and typically shouldn't even be used outside his diocese.
    Huh.  Never knew this.  Source?
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #33 on: May 31, 2022, 04:10:47 PM »
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #34 on: May 31, 2022, 04:30:30 PM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on May 31, 2022, 04:08:17 PM
    Huh.  Never knew this.  Source?

    Just a lot of picutres I've seen with bishops holding croziers (also spelled crosiers).

    Catholic Encyclopedia:
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    The crosier is symbol of authority and jurisdiction.

    Then from Wikipedia (couldn't find another source for this yet):
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    The Catholic Caeremoniale Episcoporum says that, as a sign of his pastoral function, a bishop uses a crosier within his territory, but any bishop celebrating the liturgy solemnly with the consent of the local bishop may also use it.


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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #35 on: May 31, 2022, 07:04:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 31, 2022, 04:30:30 PM
    Just a lot of picutres I've seen with bishops holding croziers (also spelled crosiers).

    Catholic Encyclopedia:
    Then from Wikipedia (couldn't find another source for this yet):
    Thank you.
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #36 on: May 31, 2022, 08:22:11 PM »
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    • I checked SSPX.org, and I don’t see any news on any priest being transferred. Maybe those who attend the local missions or Priories can chime in. I think the SSPX is ordaining only one priest this year.
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #37 on: May 31, 2022, 09:15:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on May 31, 2022, 08:22:11 PM
    I checked SSPX.org, and I don’t see any news on any priest being transferred. Maybe those who attend the local missions or Priories can chime in. I think the SSPX is ordaining only one priest this year.
    I believe they ordained 3 or 4 this past February(?).
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #38 on: May 31, 2022, 09:47:49 PM »
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    • Thank you. Was this in the US or internationally. I think the US ordinations usually take place in June, but I could be wrong. 
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #39 on: May 31, 2022, 10:33:25 PM »
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    • SSPX (St. Isidore's) in Denver will be loosing Fr. Manus and getting Fr. Dellan Flannery who will be the principal of the school.

    Denver will be the location for the Priest Training Program for priests transitioning to tradition.

    Father made these announcements at Mass on Sunday May 29, 2022.


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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #40 on: May 31, 2022, 10:49:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on May 31, 2022, 08:22:11 PM
    I checked SSPX.org, and I don’t see any news on any priest being transferred. Maybe those who attend the local missions or Priories can chime in. I think the SSPX is ordaining only one priest this year.
    I seem to recall that the sspx typically publishes a list of transfers every year.
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #41 on: May 31, 2022, 11:09:51 PM »
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    • I see the list of transfers on local bulletins, but I have not seen one nationally. I know they do post where each priest is residing etc. Maybe there is such a list. I just have not come across it.
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #42 on: May 31, 2022, 11:23:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on May 31, 2022, 11:09:51 PM
    I see the list of transfers on local bulletins, but I have not seen one nationally. I know they do post where each priest is residing etc. Maybe there is such a list. I just have not come across it.
    You are probably correct.
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #43 on: June 01, 2022, 01:00:44 AM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on May 31, 2022, 07:23:36 AM
    I don't know which is worse, this comment or the fact that it got 3 thumbs up.  Firstly, nobody's saying that this is a normal situation, but - newsflash! - we're in a Church crisis that is unprecedent in all of Church history.  Secondly, the SSPX "superiors" are as much superiors of these priests as if they had none.  Being able to function as a superior derives from the jurisdiction of the Church, period.  So there's not a lick of real difference between an independent SSPX priest, a Resistance priest like Father Chazal, or any SSPX who pretends he has a superior.
    Having a Church crisis is no excuse for a free-for-all. The rule of thumb should be that the ordinary ways be followed or attempted to be followed, unless if the superior's commands are outright sinful. 
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    Re: 2022 SSPX US transfers
    « Reply #44 on: June 01, 2022, 02:49:38 AM »
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    • Quote from: epiphany on May 31, 2022, 11:25:26 AM
    Just a question on this....
    If the SSPX is not alleging they are pastors of parishes, why do they state they ARE pastors of parishes in their bulletins?
    I believe it is deceptive.
    I think the term pastor is used loosely, to denote the priest is in charge of such-and-such a chapel, but juridically, the chapels are not parishes. If you see the bulletin of SGG, the SVs also used the term pastor. Similarly, parish office doesn't mean it is the office of the parish in the juridical sense.

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