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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: cath4ever on June 20, 2016, 09:06:43 PM
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Hello,
It's that time of year for SSPX Priests to be transferred from one place to another. If your Priest has announced his transfer, or another Priest's transfer, could you please post it here? Thanks.
God bless you all.
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To answer my own OP, I just found out the following:
1) Fr. Trevor Burfitt: from Prior at Veneta, OR to Arcadia, CA
2) Fr. Jaime Rigi: from Assistant at Veneta, OR to Assistant at Notre Dame La Salette Boy Academy
3) Fr. John Brucciani: from US District Bursar to Prior at Veneta, OR
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Any info if the priest at St. Robert Bellarmine in central MN is getting transferred or not? Fr. Otto Keiser.
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Fr. Adam Portugal to Veneta.
Fr. Gregory Post to Queen of Angels, Dickinson, TX.
Fr. Beck to Platte City, Mo.
Fr. Rutledge to St. Mary's.
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Fr. Chavarria from Phoenix going to France in August.
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Academy
3) Fr. John Brucciani: from US District Bursar to Prior at Veneta, OR
He has a great voice. He gave a sermon here last fall that sounded like Vincent Price...LOL.
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Academy
3) Fr. John Brucciani: from US District Bursar to Prior at Veneta, OR
He has a great voice. He gave a sermon here last fall that sounded like Vincent Price...LOL.
And he speaks the "Queen's English" lol. I really liked him but I wonder why he is no longer the Bursar. I wonder if they figured out they don't need one as long as they're joining new church.
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Fr. Leo Boyle to the new retreat house in Athlone Ireland. Also suppose to be getting another priest rumoured to be one of the newly ordainec ones, but don't know who it is.
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Fr. Emanuel Herkel from Toronto Ontario Canada back to Calgary Alberta Canada
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I know almost half of the priests mentioned so far.
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Academy
3) Fr. John Brucciani: from US District Bursar to Prior at Veneta, OR
He has a great voice. He gave a sermon here last fall that sounded like Vincent Price...LOL.
And he speaks the "Queen's English" lol. I really liked him but I wonder why he is no longer the Bursar. I wonder if they figured out they don't need one as long as they're joining new church.
Could it have something to do with the retirement village they sent the questionnaires out for? It's supposed to be in Vaneta.
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Fr. Leo Boyle to the new retreat house in Athlone Ireland. Also suppose to be getting another priest rumoured to be one of the newly ordainec ones, but don't know who it is.
Where is he leaving from?
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St John Bosco School, Calgary, Canada.
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Message from pulpit at St. Peregrine's this morning as reported by a friend of mine. Fr. Thomas Scott says he is going to Arizona. Not sure where. He flew into CLE weekly from Kansas.
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Announced in Phoenix today - Fr. Thomas Scott arriving, and Fr. Otto Kaiser.
Fr. Hufford is going to Veneta, and Fr. Chavarria to France, as already posted.
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Academy
3) Fr. John Brucciani: from US District Bursar to Prior at Veneta, OR
He has a great voice. He gave a sermon here last fall that sounded like Vincent Price...LOL.
And he speaks the "Queen's English" lol. I really liked him but I wonder why he is no longer the Bursar. I wonder if they figured out they don't need one as long as they're joining new church.
Could it have something to do with the retirement village they sent the questionnaires out for? It's supposed to be in Vaneta.
I suppose that makes sense, I just know that our chapel was the second one he saved from closing down so he is very good at finances, balancing the books, getting back into the green, etc. which he always strenuously attributed to the intercession of St. Philomena - he did so well at it, we moved into a new chapel as he left for his new promotion as US District Bursar.
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Announced in Phoenix today - Fr. Thomas Scott arriving, and Fr. Otto Kaiser.
Fr. Hufford is going to Veneta, and Fr. Chavarria to France, as already posted.
Who is Fr. Kaiser?
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Announced in Phoenix today - Fr. Thomas Scott arriving, and Fr. Otto Kaiser.
Fr. Hufford is going to Veneta, and Fr. Chavarria to France, as already posted.
Who is Fr. Kaiser?
Fr. Otto Keiser was ordained in 2013 by Bishop de Galarreta in Winona. He is from Dickinson, Texas.
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Announced in Phoenix today - Fr. Thomas Scott arriving, and Fr. Otto Kaiser.
Fr. Hufford is going to Veneta, and Fr. Chavarria to France, as already posted.
Who is Fr. Kaiser?
Fr. Keiser is the priest from the St. Robert Bellarmine chapel in central Minnesota. I attend this chapel and he gives very sound, very Catholic homilies with a fair amount of wit. The chapel itself is well attended.
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When Fr. Thomas Scott arrived in Cleveland a few years back, he stated he was the Retreat Master. Will he be so sgain?
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Fr. Otto Keiser was ordained in 2013 by Bishop de Galarreta in Winona. He is from Dickinson, Texas.
Ahhh... a baby priest - as Fr. Scott termed them many moons ago :)
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San Antonio, TX is currently getting a different priest every week, but in August 2016 they will be getting their permanent priest.
From the coordinator of St. Joseph's Chapel in San Antonio:
"We will have our new priest, newly-minted Fr. Haenny (not sure of the spelling), sometime in the middle of August. He is slated to be stationed in Dickinson. Hopefully things will settle down for a few years."
I guess that means the constant flying-in of priests will stop. Ever since the last cycle began (August 2015), San Antonio had to FLY IN a priest rather than having one drive from the nearby Houston priory. This was also much more expensive.
I don't know Fr. Haenny from a can of paint, but I'll say this: sending a brand-new priest to the San Antonio chapel is certainly something new. A move of desperation? Traditionally, San Antonio with its above-average economy and lots of military and retirees meant that this chapel was something of a Goose Laying Golden Eggs for the SSPX, which called for a certain amount of care -- best provided by mature priests who have experience, people skills, diplomacy, tact, etc.
Fr. Zigrang was there for 10 years, for example. He was in his early 60's. Before that it was Fr. Timothy Pfeiffer. I can't remember the ones before that (as I wasn't there at the time), but I've heard their names and they were all old-school.
In some ways, Texans are laid back and "easy". But in other ways, it's still a typical parish with busybodies, gossip, cliques, backbiting, Sunday Catholics and all that.
So let's look at the recent timeline:
2015 - First time ever, St. Joseph's doesn't get served by a priory in the state of Texas (which is quite large, I should point out). Priests are flown in from Phoenix, at great expense. New priest appointed, the youngest priest to say Mass at St. Joseph's in some time: Fr. Chavarria.
2016 - Late spring, St. Joseph's starts getting a different priest every week. Some weeks, they don't know who the priest will be this Sunday until days before.
2016 August - Now they are getting a brand-new priest, but he'll be be based in the nearby priory in Dickinson (Houston).
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Father Vassal is to be transferred out of Immaculate Conception Church in Post Falls, ID. There's more to that story this is slowly coming out - has to do with some serious problems at Immaculate Conception Boys' Academy.
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Fr. Joseph Dreher: from Assistant at Oak Park, IL to prior at Post Falls, ID
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Hoping to find out who the new priest is in St. Cloud, MN.
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Announced in Phoenix today - Fr. Thomas Scott arriving, and Fr. Otto Kaiser.
Fr. Hufford is going to Veneta, and Fr. Chavarria to France, as already posted.
Who is Fr. Kaiser?
Fr. Keiser is the priest from the St. Robert Bellarmine chapel in central Minnesota. I attend this chapel and he gives very sound, very Catholic homilies with a fair amount of wit. The chapel itself is well attended.
Fr. Keiser is another young priest who came out of the seminary completely in favor of a practical agreement with Rome.
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brianhope:
Father Vassal is to be transferred out of Immaculate Conception Church in Post Falls, ID. There's more to that story this is slowly coming out - has to do with some serious problems at Immaculate Conception Boys' Academy.
This is interesting. We were in ICC with him a couple of years. Not a "pastor" who will probably be missed by many, I'm afraid. I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. Father was sent in, I think, to clean up ICA. Safe to say, I think, that he failed to do that.
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It is my understanding now that the Immaculate Catholic Academy (ICA) in Post Falls will be shutting down. So it looks like two major events are occurring at ICC. Fr. Vassal is being transferred out, and the school is closing.
I understand, additionally, that sspx boys will be directed back to Winona for further schooling in the sspx system. Apparently, the Society is going to set up shop there.
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Father Vassal is to be transferred out of Immaculate Conception Church in Post Falls, ID. There's more to that story this is slowly coming out - has to do with some serious problems at Immaculate Conception Boys' Academy.
When has that school NOT had serious problems?
If they can't correct them by now, just shut it down.
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It is my understanding now that the Immaculate Catholic Academy (ICA) in Post Falls will be shutting down. So it looks like two major events are occurring at ICC. Fr. Vassal is being transferred out, and the school is closing.
I understand, additionally, that sspx boys will be directed back to Winona for further schooling in the sspx system. Apparently, the Society is going to set up shop there.
I saw this after I posted.
What was the straw that broke the camel's back?
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That's why Fr. Doran was sent to ICC in the early nineties - to clean the place up - "parish" and school.
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That's why Fr. Doran was sent to ICC in the early nineties - to clean the place up - "parish" and school.
As I recall, ICC was not a large parish when Fr. Doran was assigned there. I don't think the school was much either. So I'm not aware that there was anything to "clean up" as you say. I guess you are more aware of the situation than I was at the time. The Dominicans had just arrived in 1991 and were in the beginning stages of what has become a large and very beautiful campus. They are celebrating the 25th Anniversary of St. Dominic's this weekend in Post Falls. lWhen Fr. Doran left in the late 1990's there
had been considerable growth in the number of Traditional Catholics. It made us wish we had bought property in those early years.
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As I recall, ICC was not a large parish when Fr. Doran was assigned there. I don't think the school was much either. So I'm not aware that there was anything to "clean up" as you say.
I'm not sure what kind of an argument you are trying to make here. Whatever the size of the ICC parish was then is of no consequence in the present. But believe me, there is a hell of a lot to clean up now. As I wrote earlier, the school has been shut down. If that is not true, please correct my understanding. Earlier, under the priorship of Fr. Boyle, I believe, ICA closed down for two years because of enormous problems then. ICC is a mess, and as long as Fellay keeps sending in his toady loyalists to run the operation, ICC will continue to be a mess, because, in fact, the entire apostolate is a mess.
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That's why Fr. Doran was sent to ICC in the early nineties - to clean the place up - "parish" and school.
As I recall, ICC was not a large parish when Fr. Doran was assigned there. I don't think the school was much either. So I'm not aware that there was anything to "clean up" as you say. I guess you are more aware of the situation than I was at the time. The Dominicans had just arrived in 1991 and were in the beginning stages of what has become a large and very beautiful campus. They are celebrating the 25th Anniversary of St. Dominic's this weekend in Post Falls. lWhen Fr. Doran left in the late 1990's there
had been considerable growth in the number of Traditional Catholics. It made us wish we had bought property in those early years.
No guessing about it. I am more aware of the situation than you are.
In 1992, Fr. Rizzo caused mayhem at ICC. He took off to who knows where and Fr. Peter Scott had to come to Post Falls to calm the natives until Fr. Doran arrived who was told to "clean the place up." Including the school. Which he tried to do making it into some type of para-military academy. Which went over like a lead balloon.
After Fr. Doran fell from grace, who did they send? Fr. Leo Boyle - the complete opposite of Fr. Doran. :thinking: He caused havoc. :laugh2:
Fr. Morgan came next and restored some balance to ICC.
Then came Fr. Emily. Poor priest. He meant well. I actually liked him a lot, but many didn't.
But the best was when the FSSP came to Post Falls and set up shop in St. George's down the road from ICC about a mile and a half. Who did the FSSP send? Fr. Rizzo :laugh1:who had left the sspx to join the fssp.
Oh trads - gotta love 'em! :boxer:
There has never been a time when there hasn't been some major problem at ICC. I could fill a book with the goings-on of the ten years I spent there.
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As I recall, ICC was not a large parish when Fr. Doran was assigned there. I don't think the school was much either. So I'm not aware that there was anything to "clean up" as you say.
I'm not sure what kind of an argument you are trying to make here. Whatever the size of the ICC parish was then is of no consequence in the present. But believe me, there is a hell of a lot to clean up now. As I wrote earlier, the school has been shut down. If that is not true, please correct my understanding. Earlier, under the priorship of Fr. Boyle, I believe, ICA closed down for two years because of enormous problems then. ICC is a mess, and as long as Fellay keeps sending in his toady loyalists to run the operation, ICC will continue to be a mess, because, in fact, the entire apostolate is a mess.
It was just an observation about the past, that's all. I knew the place best during the 1990's when it was flourishing. Now, I'm glad that we didn't make the move there.
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Many there whom I knew well uprooted their families in order to move there. Many sacrifices were made. Apparently, it was all for nothing. They didn't find what they were looking for. Very few families did.
This is, unfortunately, how I feel about Phoenix.
I don't think there's any dirty secrets, so it is not to be compared to ICC in that way at ALL, but it is definitely NOT what I was looking for, not what I thought I'd find.
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I'm sure many others could chime in, only about Cincinnati, OH or St. Mary's, KS.
I think the moral of the story is:
Most of the time, you should STAY WHERE GOD PLANTED YOU. Either stay with "his" family or "her" family, or both.
That is, unless you live in an absolute wasteland as far as Traditional Catholicism goes. The Faith must come first. For those without weekly Tridentine Mass, you should move somewhere where the Mass and sacraments are available. But that leaves open a large number of possibilities, which respect one's place of origin and other things that make us different (cold weather lovers and hot weather lovers, yankees and southerners, etc.)
How many places could you choose from, where the Latin Mass is offered up on a weekly basis? (Granted, it's a bit harder now that the SSPX has fallen)
But for everyone to head for the "big meccas" of St. Marys, Post Falls, Mount St. Michaels, etc. is silly. That's too artificial.
Are we all to become Kansans, just because that's where the biggest Trad congregations are? What about our roots?
Obviously there's nothing wrong with Kansans, and some people were meant to be Kansan. For those who are meant to go there, and who have found happiness there, I applaud you. But I seriously doubt Kansas is meant to be a walled fortress, a "last stand" or defensive bastion behind whose walls the rest of the world can go to hell.
Now I'm not saying that no one should EVER move for the Mass and the Faith. If you are one of those few for whom uprooting your family is a good idea, at least know what you're getting yourself into. It's not a "wonderful Trad mecca" -- it's more like a Catholic Disneyland. Keep your expectations low and you'll be fine.
Keep your head out of the clouds and your two feet firmly on the ground. You still need to have a job, etc.
The best description I've ever heard of St. Mary's Kansas: "It's like every other SSPX chapel, only everything is 100X on steroids"
100X the gossip
100X the people
100X the parish life
100X the worldliness
100X the virtues
100X the temptations
100X the scandals
100X the number of eligible bachelors/ladies
100X the number of broken families
100X the drug users
etc.
I just don't believe that God calls everyone -- or even every fervent Catholic -- to move to St. Mary's. I believe He wants a few serious Catholics in missions chapels as well. Who's going to catechize and set the good example for new parishioners at chapels all across the country?
Aren't we supposed to be the salt of the earth, setting the world on fire with the love of God?
P.S. At the Independent chapel where I grew up, I only knew one person that took illegal drugs. And it was someone who spent a year or two at St. Mary's Academy. Take that for what it's worth.
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For what it's worth, I heard last Sunday that Fr. Joseph Dreher is being appointed prior in Post Falls, and I posted that here.
I heard from a person who should know...Fr. Dreher himself, who announced it before his sermon.
So unless something has changed in the last week I'm pretty sure Fr. Vassal is being replaced by Fr. Dreher, at least as prior. Maybe Fr. Vassal is staying there too, but as an assistant (an awkward position for both Priests to be in if that is the case). Pray for them both, and for the whole parish, in any case.
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For what it's worth, I heard last Sunday that Fr. Joseph Dreher is being appointed prior in Post Falls, and I posted that here.
I heard from a person who should know...Fr. Dreher himself, who announced it before his sermon.......
Just curious......where was that Mass?
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For what it's worth, I heard last Sunday that Fr. Joseph Dreher is being appointed prior in Post Falls, and I posted that here.
I heard from a person who should know...Fr. Dreher himself, who announced it before his sermon.......
Just curious......where was that Mass?
Fr. Joseph Dreher: from Assistant at Oak Park, IL to prior at Post Falls, ID
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For what it's worth, I heard last Sunday that Fr. Joseph Dreher is being appointed prior in Post Falls, and I posted that here.
I heard from a person who should know...Fr. Dreher himself, who announced it before his sermon.......
Just curious......where was that Mass?
Fr. Joseph Dreher: from Assistant at Oak Park, IL to prior at Post Falls, ID
Fr. D goes to the Pius V chapel in Mukwanago, WI (a.k.a. "Milwaukee", though 20+ miles away) every Sunday.
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This apparently has already happened (don't know when), but:
Fr. Mark Stafki is the current prior in Phoenix and Fr. Otto Keiser is one of 4 assistants there. I had thought that Fr. Stafki was the prior in Los Angeles. I don't know when the change was made of either priest. I saw this on the OLS Phoenix website today.
Fr. Stafki used to be an assistant in Phoenix and was the retreat master. I went on an Ignatian Retreat preached by him and it was excellent. He can really put the fear of God into you. Too bad he won't be involved with the retreats as prior.
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Father Dreher is being posted to Post Falls. He will not be the pastor, but instead will be the associate pastor.
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Yah...what's going on in Post Falls is weird. I'm almost 100% positive on Sunday July 3rd Fr. Dreher himself said he was becoming the prior at Post Falls, not just an assistant.
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The letter from Fr. Wegner as well as 'announcements' from the pulpit show otherwise.
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This apparently has already happened (don't know when), but:
Fr. Mark Stafki is the current prior in Phoenix and Fr. Otto Keiser is one of 4 assistants there. I had thought that Fr. Stafki was the prior in Los Angeles. I don't know when the change was made of either priest. I saw this on the OLS Phoenix website today.
Fr. Stafki used to be an assistant in Phoenix and was the retreat master. I went on an Ignatian Retreat preached by him and it was excellent. He can really put the fear of God into you. Too bad he won't be involved with the retreats as prior.
Fr. Stafki was swept away from Arcadia quite suddenly a month or more ago, the parish was given the news at mass and then he was gone. I thought it was curious, how quickly he left.
In the meantime, the parish has been hanging by a thread while waiting for replacement...
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NEWS FROM CANADA
<<<<This Fr. Morgan's transfer might indicate that Menzingen and the Canadian District Superior (Fr. Couture, great persecutor of the Resistance when DS of Asia), are finally getting tired of having a Resistance parish still active near Vancouver, after three years of existence (Fr. Girouard's Aldergrove parish). >>>
"Fr Couture, a great persecutor of the Resistance when DS of Asia "?. News to me!
Can you tell us a bit more? I've known him the entire time he was the DS of SSPX-Asia and, in fact, another white priest of the district told me that Couture should have taken certain action concerning the Resistance, which he did not.
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NEWS FROM CANADA
<<<<This Fr. Morgan's transfer might indicate that Menzingen and the Canadian District Superior (Fr. Couture, great persecutor of the Resistance when DS of Asia), are finally getting tired of having a Resistance parish still active near Vancouver, after three years of existence (Fr. Girouard's Aldergrove parish). >>>
"Fr Couture, a great persecutor of the Resistance when DS of Asia "?. News to me!
Can you tell us a bit more? I've known him the entire time he was the DS of SSPX-Asia and, in fact, another white priest of the district told me that Couture should have taken certain action concerning the Resistance, which he did not.
Just an intuitive guess...
But could Father Couture have been intimidated by a new Resistance priest in his area?
(http://sspx.ca/sites/sspx/files/styles/news_big/public/news/fr-roy.jpg?itok=H3D0zbDM)
Father Roy knows far too much about the xSPX and can speak of it with authority.
The Canadian superior has to keep throwing the PR spin for Menzingen and perhaps Fr. Couture wasn't up to it?
Management may have thought it was time for a District Superior relief pitcher?
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Fr. Stafki was swept away from Arcadia quite suddenly a month or more ago, the parish was given the news at mass and then he was gone. I thought it was curious, how quickly he left.
In the meantime, the parish has been hanging by a thread while waiting for replacement...
You should have had more notice, we knew for weeks beforehand that he was coming to Phx.
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NEWS FROM CANADA
<<<<This Fr. Morgan's transfer might indicate that Menzingen and the Canadian District Superior (Fr. Couture, great persecutor of the Resistance when DS of Asia), are finally getting tired of having a Resistance parish still active near Vancouver, after three years of existence (Fr. Girouard's Aldergrove parish). >>>
"Fr Couture, a great persecutor of the Resistance when DS of Asia "?. News to me!
Can you tell us a bit more? I've known him the entire time he was the DS of SSPX-Asia and, in fact, another white priest of the district told me that Couture should have taken certain action concerning the Resistance, which he did not.
Just an intuitive guess...
But could Father Couture have been intimidated by a new Resistance priest in his area?
(http://sspx.ca/sites/sspx/files/styles/news_big/public/news/fr-roy.jpg?itok=H3D0zbDM)
Father Roy knows far too much about the xSPX and can speak of it with authority.
The Canadian superior has to keep throwing the PR spin for Menzingen and perhaps Fr. Couture wasn't up to it?
Management may have thought it was time for a District Superior relief pitcher?
There may be something in what you say. Being a Menzingen sweetheart is not enough today. And to my earlier post: when would he have had the time to persecute anybody? Whilst changing aircraft on his incessant travels?
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This apparently has already happened (don't know when), but:
Fr. Mark Stafki is the current prior in Phoenix and Fr. Otto Keiser is one of 4 assistants there. I had thought that Fr. Stafki was the prior in Los Angeles. I don't know when the change was made of either priest. I saw this on the OLS Phoenix website today.
Fr. Stafki used to be an assistant in Phoenix and was the retreat master. I went on an Ignatian Retreat preached by him and it was excellent. He can really put the fear of God into you. Too bad he won't be involved with the retreats as prior.
Fr. Stafki was swept away from Arcadia quite suddenly a month or more ago, the parish was given the news at mass and then he was gone. I thought it was curious, how quickly he left.
In the meantime, the parish has been hanging by a thread while waiting for replacement...
Hello B,
Well, the usual pattern is for new priests to appear in an atmosphere of excitement, replacing those that suddenly disappear in the middle of the night. Those that leave the Society are not supposed to have existed at all!
Is Mel Gibson's chapel still functioning?
I wondered where Fr. Morgan was going to turn up. Losing oneself in the great expanse of Canada is a far cry from surviving the turbulence of trad positions in chaotic London.
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Hello W,
I believe Mel Gibson's chapel is now defunct! It was not open to just any old trad Catholic by my understanding...nestled somewhere in the arroyos of Malibu...reminded me of the private chapels in the homes of wealthy European Catholics from a bygone era....there was nothing wrong with that!!!
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Two priests (Fr. Groche and Fr. Vachon) have been transferred to Quebec, bringing the number up to 8. I'm wondering if this is part of a deliberate attempt to beef up the district after Fr. Roy's departure.
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Hello W,
I believe Mel Gibson's chapel is now defunct! It was not open to just any old trad Catholic by my understanding...nestled somewhere in the arroyos of Malibu...reminded me of the private chapels in the homes of wealthy European Catholics from a bygone era....there was nothing wrong with that!!!
Mel Gibson's chapel is the perfect location for the next xSPX mega-Retreat Center.
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The plan would be for Father Wegner to negotiate a Chapel lease for ($1/yr.) while simultaneously giving a large, public stipend to the Wilshire Blvd. ѕуηαgσgυє.
It would be a double PR coup for Father. The xSPX would be able to evangelize Hollywood elites on the glitzy Gibson estate, while making good with the L.A. rabbis.
Just think of the media coverage.... and the Sunday collections!
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Couple "fashionably-late" to Mass
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Hello W,
I believe Mel Gibson's chapel is now defunct! It was not open to just any old trad Catholic by my understanding...nestled somewhere in the arroyos of Malibu...reminded me of the private chapels in the homes of wealthy European Catholics from a bygone era....there was nothing wrong with that!!![/quote
The privatisation of antiquity and religious recreation would seem to be the way forward. All that is required is some appreciation of history and the money to go with it. Maybe a colourful life and the need to balance the excess, too, as in the olden times. We have to speculate that such 'places of worship' were more than just architectural features. Of course, the new reality is that the stock of residual wealth lends itself to heavy amounts of tourism, generating much fascination in a world now given to superficial enquiry.
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That's how they are dressed for Mass?
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That's how they are dressed for Mass?
After the xSPX Rome deal, in Malibu, at a Gibson lease chapel... loose dress codes would be expected.
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Someone wrote in:
Announced from the pulpit yesterday by Fr Daniel Muscha...Fr James Carlisle will be the new permanent pastor for St Benedict's in Louisville, KY. Fr Carlisle is one of the priests currently stationed at ICC in Post Falls.
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That's how they are dressed for Mass?
Apparently you are not familiar with Novus Ordo church attire if this shocks you, as this young couple is actually quite conservatively dressed for the Novus Ordo, especially for summer!
You really ought to park outside your nearest Novus Ordo parish in time for the 5pm Saturday "Mass in anticipation" as they call it, and see how the rest of them dress. You will see what I mean.
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Hello W,
I believe Mel Gibson's chapel is now defunct! It was not open to just any old trad Catholic by my understanding...nestled somewhere in the arroyos of Malibu...reminded me of the private chapels in the homes of wealthy European Catholics from a bygone era....there was nothing wrong with that!!![/quote
The privatisation of antiquity and religious recreation would seem to be the way forward. All that is required is some appreciation of history and the money to go with it. Maybe a colourful life and the need to balance the excess, too, as in the olden times. We have to speculate that such 'places of worship' were more than just architectural features. Of course, the new reality is that the stock of residual wealth lends itself to heavy amounts of tourism, generating much fascination in a world now given to superficial enquiry.
Yes...you've nailed it...
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I thought Saturday evening Masses were called Golf Masses! But here the young couple above would not be turning up at any church. Novus Ordo types are looking their age and may be the last generation before the whole thing folds.
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http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/assignments-us-district-2016-2017
Anybody know what happened to Fr. Fahnestock? He was in Kansas City in 2014, made prior in Armada, MI., in 2015, and now he's just...gone?
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And Fr. Riccomini? Where is he?
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And Fr. Riccomini? Where is he?
Yes, I noticed he's not mentioned on the list of USA transfers. Neither is Fr. Chavarria but I know he has gone to France, still they should put him on the list.
So did Fr. Riccomini get assigned outside the country?
official list of new SSPX assignments (http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/assignments-us-district-2016-2017)
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That's how they are dressed for Mass?
What makes you think they are going to Mass? The girl looks like Reese Witherspoon too.
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I believe Fr. R is not in good health and taking some time off as a "sabbatical."
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What makes you think they are going to Mass? The girl looks like Reese Witherspoon too.
I think Incred might have posted that earlier in the thread, I thought kind of tongue-in-cheek as he often does, as an example of how people in the Novus Ordo often dress for Mass, and/or how they'd soon be dressing after a deal. It was a completely hypothetical post I thought, just making a point. I guess Incred's humor is lost on some people. I thought it was Reese Witherspoon too, and I think a lot of people took this photo way too seriously.
official list of new SSPX assignments (http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/assignments-us-district-2016-2017)
Assignments in US District: 2016-2017
For more information on the individual parishes and mission chapels, please visit the Locations Page on this site.
(Priories are listed in bold - the mission chapels are listed after the priests' name who is scheduled to service them)
District House - Platte City MO
Fr. Wegner – Superior
Fr. Beck – First Asst.
Fr. S. Gardner – Bursar, Memphis, TN, Little Rock, AR
Fr. James Haynos
Fr. Duverger
Br. Marcel
Br. Gabriel-Marie
Br. Rene of Mary
St. Thomas Aquinas Seminary - Dilwyn VA
Fr. le Roux - Director
Fr. Abbet – Vice-Rector
Fr. Peek
Fr. Iscara
Fr. Dean – Brothers’ Novitiate
Fr. Vassal
Fr. Anderson
Fr. Goshie
Fr. Reuter
Fr. Matthew, OSB
Missions covered by the seminary:
Boston MA,
Gilford NH
Richmond
Virginia Beach
Falls Church
Priories
Albuquerque, NM
Fr. Bibeau
Arcadia CA
Fr. Burfitt - prior
Fr. Gillilan - Colton, San Diego
Fr. DeMeyer - San Pedro, Bakersfield
Fr. Hawker
Armada MI
Fr. R. Boyle - prior
Fr. J. Pazat – Livonia, Bay City
Fr. Webber - Grand Rapids, Mancelona
Atlanta, GA
Fr. Danel
Browerville MN
Fr. Emily - prior (SSPX Sisters’ Novitiate, Crookston)
Fr. Graves - Long Prairie
Fr. Reid - St. Cloud, Belle Plaine
Chicago IL
H.E. Bp. Bernard Tissier de Mallerais
Fr. Ward - prior
Fr. Young
Fr. Darby - Ft. Wayne, Kingsford Heights, IN
Fr. Trummer – Mukwonago, WI
Fr. Ladner – arrives January 2017
Denver CO
Fr. D. McDonald - Prior (Ft. Collins CO)
Fr. Harber – Bismarck, Dickinson ND
Fr. Dailey - St. Paul
Fr. Stamos – arrives January 2017
Rev. Mr. McManus
Dickinson TX
Fr. Kurtz - prior
Fr. Post
Fr. Cooper
Fr. Gonzales – Kenner, Baton Rouge LA
Fr. Haenny – San Antonio, Austin
Fr. Zigrang – Spring, Carthage, Corpus Christi
Br. Henry Mary
Br. Gregory
El Paso TX
Fr. Diaz - prior
Fr. Katzaroff – Sioux Falls, Rapid City SD,
Midland TX
Fr. Polley – Charlotte, Goldsboro, Raleigh
Br. Josef
Kansas City MO
Fr. Goldade - prior
Fr. Bourmaud - Ft. Worth, Sanger TX
Fr. Jackson - Nashville TN
Fr. May – Madison, Necedah (effective October 2016)
Fr. Dwyer – Winona, Bremer (effective October 2016)
Los Gatos CA
Fr. Asher - prior (San Jose CA)
Fr. Nichols – Carson City
Fr. W. Kimball - Sacramento, Chico
Fr. Pedersen
Sr. Mary Raphael (Oblate)
Sr. Anne Marie (Oblate)
Nicholville NY
Fr. Soos - prior (Dominican Sisters)
Fr. Gagnon
Fr. Flanery - Glens Falls
Olivet IL
Fr. McMahon - prior
Fr. Sick – Greenwood, IN
Fr. Rigi – Green Bay, WI
Br. Stanislaus
Br. Dominic
Phoenix AZ
Fr. Stafki - prior
Fr. K. Robinson – Las Vegas NV
Fr. Scott - Prescott
Fr. Crane – Albuquerque NM
Fr. Keiser
Br. Alphonsus
Br. Dismas
Post Falls ID
Fr. S. McDonald – Second Asst., prior
Fr. Dreher
Fr. Bergez – (Dominican Sisters), Boise ID
Fr. Loop - St. Maries ID
Fr. Deister – Edmonds WA
Fr. Duncan – Kalispell, Victor MT
Ridgefield CT
Fr. Violette - prior
Fr. Sulzen - Pittston PA, N. Caldwell NJ
Fr. D. Thomas - Hartford
Fr. N. Gardner – Farmingville, Manhattan, NY
Msgr. Byrnes – Philadelphia, PA
Br. Benedict
Br. Anthony
Br. Louis
St. Louis MO
Fr. A. Haynos - prior
Fr. Pieroni - Mexico
Fr. Delmanowski – Cleveland
St. Marys KS
Fr. Rutledge - Prior
Fr. Brandler
Fr. Angele - Pastor
Fr. K. Novak
Fr. Leith - Springfield MO
Fr. Arabadjis
Fr. Wood
Fr. McBride – Tulsa, Oklahoma City OK
Fr. Bourbeau
Fr. McFarland
Fr. Wiseman
Fr. Joseph Haynos
Fr. Franks – Wichita KS
Sanford FL
Fr. Vernoy - prior
Fr. Alessio – Ft. Myers, Lake Worth, Miramar Beach, Tavares
Fr. Brooks - Miami, Davie FL
Syracuse NY
Fr. Stanich - prior (Binghamton NY)
Fr. Purdy - Buffalo
Fr. Mackin - Geneva
Fr. Gallagher
Veneta OR
Fr. Brucciani - prior
Fr. Hunter - Klamath Falls OR
Fr. Portugal - Anchorage AK; Honolulu, Hilo HI
Fr. Hufford - Portland
Walton KY
Fr. Muscha - prior (Dayton OH)
Fr. Horvath - Dominican Sisters
Fr. Carlisle - Louisville
Fr. Brown – Pittsburgh, Girard
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I just found this pic online, it is Witherspoon and her husband Jim Toth taken 2/13/15. Same clothes, same cup of coffee in his hand.
celebrity coffee run (https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.gettyimages.com%2Fphotos%2Freese-witherspoon-and-husband-jim-toth-are-seen-on-february-13-2015-picture-id463380706&sp=7004797a827142a496ee8233f2d58e5f)
Not that I'm defending NO and their choices in dress, I just don't want anyone to be deceived about this particular couple as I can nowhere find that they are Catholic and that they were headed to Mass.
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That's a mighty long layoff for Fr. Riccomini.
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I just found this pic online, it is Witherspoon and her husband Jim Toth taken 2/13/15. Same clothes, same cup of coffee in his hand.
celebrity coffee run (https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.gettyimages.com%2Fphotos%2Freese-witherspoon-and-husband-jim-toth-are-seen-on-february-13-2015-picture-id463380706&sp=7004797a827142a496ee8233f2d58e5f)
Not that I'm defending NO and their choices in dress, I just don't want anyone to be deceived about this particular couple as I can nowhere find that they are Catholic and that they were headed to Mass.
I didn't even bother pointing out that it was Reese Witherspoon and her husband. I figured everyone would recognize her...LOL.
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http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/assignments-us-district-2016-2017
Anybody know what happened to Fr. Fahnestock? He was in Kansas City in 2014, made prior in Armada, MI., in 2015, and now he's just...gone?
He was never made prior in Armada, MI in 2015. It went from Fr. Brucciani to Fr. Boyle. I haven't heard of Fr. Fahnestock, so I can't help you there.
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I just found this pic online, it is Witherspoon and her husband Jim Toth taken 2/13/15. Same clothes, same cup of coffee in his hand.
celebrity coffee run (https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.gettyimages.com%2Fphotos%2Freese-witherspoon-and-husband-jim-toth-are-seen-on-february-13-2015-picture-id463380706&sp=7004797a827142a496ee8233f2d58e5f)
Not that I'm defending NO and their choices in dress, I just don't want anyone to be deceived about this particular couple as I can nowhere find that they are Catholic and that they were headed to Mass.
Sorry, as the insightful B to A commented, the whole post was "faction".... some truth, some hyperbole, but enough of the former, to be a burr under Father Wegner's saddle.
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http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/assignments-us-district-2016-2017
Anybody know what happened to Fr. Fahnestock? He was in Kansas City in 2014, made prior in Armada, MI., in 2015, and now he's just...gone?
He was never made prior in Armada, MI in 2015. It went from Fr. Brucciani to Fr. Boyle. I haven't heard of Fr. Fahnestock, so I can't help you there.
That's correct. I'm not sure why the change from Fr. Fahnestock to Fr. Boyle was made, since I had also heard back in 2015 that Fr. Fahnestock was supposed to be going to Armada. Obviously, I would assume that the reason Fr. F. was never made prior in Armada would also be the reason he has dropped off the radar...whatever that reason is.
Fr. Jordan Fahnestock was ordained in Winona in 2009, part of Winona's largest ordination class ever (13 ordinands). I have listened to a couple of his sermons and they are really good. I was also told by an SSPX seminarian, who is now an SSPX Priest, that Fr. Fahnestock is really funny, and meeting Fr. Fahnestock should be "bucket list" material for everyone.
Fr. Boyle was an excellent pick for Armada though. Armada is exceptionally blessed to have the three Priests that it currently has. I'm not all that familiar with Fr. Pazat one way or the other, but Fr. Boyle and Fr. Webber are both superb preachers and Priests in general.
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I heard from a reliable source the Fr. Fahnestock left the priesthood. I was not going to make it public but if true, he will need many prayers. I've heard of other priests who have left the priesthood and no one prays for them because the SSPX keeps it secret. I don't know anything else about Fr. Fahnestock.
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It is true about Fr. Fahnestock. I do not know if it is formal yet. He definitely needs prayers. He was one of the best priests I've ever known.
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It is true about Fr. Fahnestock. I do not know if it is formal yet. He definitely needs prayers. He was one of the best priests I've ever known.
I am a member of the Prayer Crusade for Priests and will definitely pray for him. That is horrible news if it is for sure true.
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I heard from a reliable source the Fr. Fahnestock left the priesthood. I was not going to make it public but if true, he will need many prayers. I've heard of other priests who have left the priesthood and no one prays for them because the SSPX keeps it secret. I don't know anything else about Fr. Fahnestock.
This breaks my heart. He assisted with my conditional baptism when I came to tradition. Prayers, prayers, and more prayers for him.
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I believe Fr. R is not in good health and taking some time off as a "sabbatical."
That is what we were told originally, then I heard somewhere that he would teach at the new seminary but he is not listed there. I hope all is well with him.
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Could Father Wegner, be a little sadistic, by putting Hewko's nephew, Father Carlisle, just 45 miles away from Pfeiferville?
(http://icc.id.sspx.org/sites/sspx/files/styles/colorbox-big/public/img_3694_0.jpg)
Walton KY
Fr. Muscha - prior (Dayton OH)
Fr. Horvath - Dominican Sisters
Fr. Carlisle - Louisville
Fr. Brown – Pittsburgh, Girard
(http://sspx.org/sites/sspx/files/styles/colorbox-big/public/fr-wegner-christmas-message460b.jpg)
Let's see what happens?... (hee hee!)
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I heard from a reliable source the Fr. Fahnestock left the priesthood. I was not going to make it public but if true, he will need many prayers. I've heard of other priests who have left the priesthood and no one prays for them because the SSPX keeps it secret. I don't know anything else about Fr. Fahnestock.
I should have said: "Is leaving...". Because I heard about it a few weeks ago, I assumed it had already happened. I heard yesterday that it has not. Prayers for him are specially needed right now.
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Could Father Wegner, be a little sadistic, by putting Hewko's nephew, Father Carlisle, just 45 miles away from Pfeiferville?
Walton KY
Fr. Muscha - prior (Dayton OH)
Fr. Horvath - Dominican Sisters
Fr. Carlisle - Louisville
Fr. Brown – Pittsburgh, Girard
Or he could follow in his uncle's footsteps, are they on good terms? It will be interesting to see where he (Fr. Carlisle) is in 2 years.
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I heard from a reliable source the Fr. Fahnestock left the priesthood. I was not going to make it public but if true, he will need many prayers. I've heard of other priests who have left the priesthood and no one prays for them because the SSPX keeps it secret. I don't know anything else about Fr. Fahnestock.
I should have said: "Is leaving...". Because I heard about it a few weeks ago, I assumed it had already happened. I heard yesterday that it has not. Prayers for him are specially needed right now.
Its good news... he had a little set-back, has been humbled and is coming back.
Pray for him... that he be enlightened to true tradition.
And may God bless him.
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Could Father Wegner, be a little sadistic, by putting Hewko's nephew, Father Carlisle, just 45 miles away from Pfeiferville?
Walton KY
Fr. Muscha - prior (Dayton OH)
Fr. Horvath - Dominican Sisters
Fr. Carlisle - Louisville
Fr. Brown – Pittsburgh, Girard
Or he could follow in his uncle's footsteps, are they on good terms? It will be interesting to see where he (Fr. Carlisle) is in 2 years.
Your point is well noted.
The key factor will be for him to stay off the Pfeiffer property to avoid any curses from the Mexican witch.
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Make no doubt about it... this is serious business. Flirting with the occult is physically and spiritually fatal.
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http://sspx.org/en/news-events/news/assignments-us-district-2016-2017
Anybody know what happened to Fr. Fahnestock? He was in Kansas City in 2014, made prior in Armada, MI., in 2015, and now he's just...gone?
He was never made prior in Armada, MI in 2015. It went from Fr. Brucciani to Fr. Boyle. I haven't heard of Fr. Fahnestock, so I can't help you there.
That's correct. I'm not sure why the change from Fr. Fahnestock to Fr. Boyle was made, since I had also heard back in 2015 that Fr. Fahnestock was supposed to be going to Armada. Obviously, I would assume that the reason Fr. F. was never made prior in Armada would also be the reason he has dropped off the radar...whatever that reason is.
Fr. Jordan Fahnestock was ordained in Winona in 2009, part of Winona's largest ordination class ever (13 ordinands). I have listened to a couple of his sermons and they are really good. I was also told by an SSPX seminarian, who is now an SSPX Priest, that Fr. Fahnestock is really funny, and meeting Fr. Fahnestock should be "bucket list" material for everyone.
Fr. Boyle was an excellent pick for Armada though. Armada is exceptionally blessed to have the three Priests that it currently has. I'm not all that familiar with Fr. Pazat one way or the other, but Fr. Boyle and Fr. Webber are both superb preachers and Priests in general.
You are correct. Fr. Webber and Fr. Boyle are both fantastic priests! Fr. Pazat is good too. He has been doing the Detroit (Livonia) and Bay City circuit for probably around 10 years now.
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Yes, Fr. Fahnestock has an outstanding sense of humor, something many SSPX priests lack.
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You have obviously not met with Fr Ballini! :laugh1:
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Could Father Wegner, be a little sadistic, by putting Hewko's nephew, Father Carlisle, just 45 miles away from Pfeiferville?
(http://icc.id.sspx.org/sites/sspx/files/styles/colorbox-big/public/img_3694_0.jpg)
Walton KY
Fr. Muscha - prior (Dayton OH)
Fr. Horvath - Dominican Sisters
Fr. Carlisle - Louisville
Fr. Brown – Pittsburgh, Girard
(http://sspx.org/sites/sspx/files/styles/colorbox-big/public/fr-wegner-christmas-message460b.jpg)
Let's see what happens?... (hee hee!)
Oh, wow...
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He was never made prior in Armada, MI in 2015. It went from Fr. Brucciani to Fr. Boyle. I haven't heard of Fr. Fahnestock, so I can't help you there.
That's correct. I'm not sure why the change from Fr. Fahnestock to Fr. Boyle was made, since I had also heard back in 2015 that Fr. Fahnestock was supposed to be going to Armada. Obviously, I would assume that the reason Fr. F. was never made prior in Armada would also be the reason he has dropped off the radar...whatever that reason is.
Fr. Jordan Fahnestock was ordained in Winona in 2009, part of Winona's largest ordination class ever (13 ordinands). I have listened to a couple of his sermons and they are really good. I was also told by an SSPX seminarian, who is now an SSPX Priest, that Fr. Fahnestock is really funny, and meeting Fr. Fahnestock should be "bucket list" material for everyone.
Fr. Boyle was an excellent pick for Armada though. Armada is exceptionally blessed to have the three Priests that it currently has. I'm not all that familiar with Fr. Pazat one way or the other, but Fr. Boyle and Fr. Webber are both superb preachers and Priests in general.
You are correct. Fr. Webber and Fr. Boyle are both fantastic priests! Fr. Pazat is good too. He has been doing the Detroit (Livonia) and Bay City circuit for probably around 10 years now.
Which Fr. Boyle?
Fr. Richard Boyle is horrible, a mere puppet to the ones controlling the purse strings.
Unless there are two Fr. Pazats, I thought he left the priesthood?
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I missed this thread back in 2016, or at least the part about Fr. Fahnestock. I saw him in Watkins, CO in 2017, offering un-announced Masses at St. Isadore's several Sundays in a row while he was visiting his family there. So if it's true that he'd left the priesthood by 2016, he was back in cassock and offering Mass in 2017. He was not with the SSPX at that time, but apparently on friendly enough terms with them to offer Mass in their church.