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  • This past friday, February 23, 2018, the ultra-liberal 'bishop' Foys of the diocese of Covington, KY visited the sspx school/chapel of Our Lady of the Assumption.  He toured the highschool and grade school buildings, as well as the chapel and had lunch with the prior, Fr Musha, and some other school officials.  When he visited the grade-school building, grades K-7, he was greeted with catholic hyms sung by the children.

    Many parents found out about this visit only the night before, and some parents kept their children home from school that day.  One parishoner told me that he texted Fr Musha and asked what was going on.  Fr told him that (paraphrasing) "Bishop Foys asked to visit and since he's our bishop, we didn't want to say no."  Fr offered to meet and discuss this event in person with the parishoner, but Fr has not responded to attempts to schedule.

    This parishoner also told me that last year, when Fr Waggner was in town, that he and Fr Musha visited Bishop Foys' office and said hello.

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    My opinion is that this is a test, to see what kind of 'outcry' there will be from the school and laity.  The school has over 200 children and the parish is around 400-500 people overall - a very large, and rapidly growing chapel.  I also think this is a form of pyschological war, to condition the laity to slowly accept the future reality of being under the local bishop.  I'm sure this is not an isolated incident and has happened at other chapels around the country.

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    Here is a run-down of the 'greatest hits' of this ultra-liberal, Bishop Foys.
     
    1) The Northern KY 'right to life' group is one of the most conservative and active groups in all of KY.  There are so many catholics in the N.Ky and Cincinnati area that this 'right to life' group often affects many political races and has done countless good.  Bishop Foys has told his diocese to cut ties with this group because they are 'not collaborative' with opposing views.

    http://www.wave3.com/story/5588139/diocese-bars-area-right-to-life-group-from-churches?clienttype=printable

    2.  Bishop Foys denied the printing of an advertisement in the diocesan newspaper for a public rosary march in honor of Our Lady of Fatima, organized by traditionals in the area.

    3.  The Covington diocese has a very active homosexual community, supported by the Bishop.

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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #1 on: February 26, 2018, 04:16:19 PM »
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  • I agree with you.  This sounds like a test to see what the reaction is.  And, it is insulting.  Less than 24 hours of notice, and the children have to sing for him.  I looked him up on the internet and saw him promoting the satanic year of mercy logo.  
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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #2 on: February 26, 2018, 04:37:45 PM »
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  • https://www.thecatholictelegraph.com/covington-bishop-cautions-faithful-about-attending-schismatic-walton-ky-church/14778

    The complete text of Bishop Foy’s letter is included below.
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    To the Faithful of the Diocese of Covington: 

    There has been established within the jurisdiction of the Diocese of Covington, specifically in Walton, Kentucky, a church whose name is Our Lady of the Assumption Church. This entity is a chapel of the Society of St. Pius X. The church and the society that sponsors it have created much confusion and misunderstanding in the Diocese of Covington. I have personally been asked many questions about both. It is therefore necessary and it falls upon me to clarify the situation for the Faithful of the Diocese of Covington so as to avoid further confusion.

    The Society of St. Pius X was formed after the Second Vatican Council by Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. On 30 June 1988 he proceeded to consecrate bishops for the Society of St. Pius X against the direction of His Holiness Blessed Pope John Paul II. Archbishop Lefebvre and the four men consecrated bishops for the Society of St. Pius X were excommunicated. Our Emeritus Holy Father Benedict XVI lifted that excommunication during his pontificate. When he did so, he stated: “Doctrinal questions obviously remain and until they are clarified the Society has no canonical status in the Church and its ministers cannot legitimately exercise any ministry.” Concretely, this means the priests of the Society of St. Pius X are suspended (cf. Code of Canon Law, canon 265). Please note, the Sacraments of Penance (Confession) and Matrimony, administered by priests of the Society of St. Pius X, are invalid (cf. Code of Canon Law, canon 966 and canons 1108 and 1109). Unfortunately, some believed and some were led to believe that when the excommunication of the four bishops of the Society of St. Pius X was lifted, the Society of St. Pius X was reconciled to the Roman Catholic Church. This is not – nor has ever been – the case.

    It is morally illicit (unlawful) for the Faithful to participate in Masses of the Society of St. Pius X unless they are legitimately impeded from participating in a Mass celebrated by a Catholic priest in good standing in the Church (cf. Code of Canon Law, canon 844.2). The fact of not being able to assist at the celebration of the “Tridentine” Mass is not considered a sufficient motive for attending Masses offered by priests of the Society of St. Pius X. Participation in such Masses and in the administration of the sacraments at the chapels of the Society of St. Pius X can, over a period of time, lead to a schismatic habit of thought and heart as one slowly imbibes a mentality which separates itself from the Magisterium of the Holy Roman Catholic Church. For those faithful who desire the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass according to the Extraordinary Form (“Tridentine” Mass) they will find such valid and lawful Masses celebrated at All Saints Church in Walton, KY, every Sunday at 9:15 a.m. and every First Saturday at 9:15 a.m. Masses according to the Extraordinary Form are also celebrated daily at St. Bernard Church in Dayton, KY at 6:30 a.m. and on Sundays at 8 a.m.

    The doctrinal questions that remain unresolved between the Roman Catholic Church and the Society of St. Pius X are not insignificant. A special Pontifical Commission, Ecclesia Dei, under the auspices of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, continues to work toward needed resolution. Until that is achieved, the lack of full communion of the Society of St. Pius X with the Roman Catholic Church and our Holy Father the Pope continues to wound the unity with which our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ endowed His mystical body, the Church. Therefore, let us all pray for the Church that her unity may be healed for the glory of God and the salvation of souls.

    Given at the Chancery of the Diocese of Covington on this the 23 Day of May in the Year of Our Lord 2013

    Most Reverend Roger J. Foys, D.D.
    Bishop of Covington

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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #3 on: February 26, 2018, 05:03:12 PM »
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  • As folks have mentioned before. The deal has been sealed since way back. 
    No more conditional ordinations, condemnations, knowingly and continuously proclaiming a heretic's name in the canon of the mass...
    They're just trying to find the most painless ways of letting the faithful know about it.

    "As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise: The Jews have not recognized Our Lord; therefore we cannot recognize the Jewish people." -Pope St. Pius X

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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #4 on: February 26, 2018, 06:10:50 PM »
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  • If I had a child/ren in that school, I would withdraw them AND my support of the chapel. 


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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #5 on: February 26, 2018, 06:19:52 PM »
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  • To Mr. G,

    Havent all bishops published letters regarding 'rogue' chapels within their diocese'? 

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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #6 on: February 26, 2018, 06:42:12 PM »
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  • In 2013, Bishop Foys followed the typical, Vatican gameplan against tradition.  1) Issue a statement saying that the sspx doesn't fulfill one's sunday obligation and/or is schismatic.  2) Open an indult latin mass as an alternative.

    There is a lively and growing indult community in northern ky, because many novus ordo catholics are either waking up and finding tradition again, or they are finding tradition for the first time.  Unfortunately, they are embracing the indult (and the accompanying sacrilegious new mass at the same time - which is illogical) but for some, this is not their fault, since they don't know any better as they grew up with the novus ordo and have no traditional history.  Yet, many of those who attend the indult are former trads and this is a horrible, but growing reality.

    The sad part of this whole story is not the indult, or millenials leaving tradition, or Bishop Foys' marxism, but the sspx's continued apathetic and wimpy response to newrome.  They continue, systematically and openly, to bow before newrome, to ignore their foundations, to compromise the Truth.  This is a sign they are surely infiltrated and must be abandoned.  

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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #7 on: February 26, 2018, 06:54:18 PM »
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  • "Bishop" Foys. This is what happens when the SSPX chooses to believe that the Novus Ordo consecrations of bishops are valid, they have to take orders from what possible could be a layman who isn't even a priest, let alone a bishop.

    Cowards will put up with anything as long as they are taken care of.
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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #8 on: February 26, 2018, 09:56:12 PM »
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  • Why the surprise?
    It's Kentucky...
     ...backwards is forwards and up is down.

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    « Reply #9 on: February 26, 2018, 10:17:57 PM »
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  • Why the surprise?
    It's Kentucky...
     ...backwards is forwards and up is down.
    That's awfully insulting.  My favorite politicians happen to be from Kentucky.  
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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #10 on: February 26, 2018, 10:50:04 PM »
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  • In 2013, Bishop Foys followed the typical, Vatican gameplan against tradition.  1) Issue a statement saying that the sspx doesn't fulfill one's sunday obligation and/or is schismatic.  2) Open an indult latin mass as an alternative.

    There is a lively and growing indult community in northern ky, because many novus ordo catholics are either waking up and finding tradition again, or they are finding tradition for the first time.  Unfortunately, they are embracing the indult (and the accompanying sacrilegious new mass at the same time - which is illogical) but for some, this is not their fault, since they don't know any better as they grew up with the novus ordo and have no traditional history.  Yet, many of those who attend the indult are former trads and this is a horrible, but growing reality.

    The sad part of this whole story is not the indult, or millenials leaving tradition, or Bishop Foys' marxism, but the sspx's continued apathetic and wimpy response to newrome.  They continue, systematically and openly, to bow before newrome, to ignore their foundations, to compromise the Truth.  This is a sign they are surely infiltrated and must be abandoned.  
    Notice below that Father Musha of SSPX has accepted Bishop Foy as "our bishop"?
    Lord have mercy.

    This past friday, February 23, 2018, the ultra-liberal 'bishop' Foys of the diocese of Covington, KY visited the sspx school/chapel of Our Lady of the Assumption.  He toured the highschool and grade school buildings, as well as the chapel and had lunch with the prior, Fr Musha, and some other school officials.  When he visited the grade-school building, grades K-7, he was greeted with catholic hyms sung by the children.

    Many parents found out about this visit only the night before, and some parents kept their children home from school that day.  One parishoner told me that he texted Fr Musha and asked what was going on.  Fr told him that (paraphrasing) "Bishop Foys asked to visit and since he's our bishop, we didn't want to say no." Fr offered to meet and discuss this event in person with the parishoner, but Fr has not responded to attempts to schedule.

    This parishoner also told me that last year, when Fr Waggner was in town, that he and Fr Musha visited Bishop Foys' office and said hello.

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    My opinion is that this is a test, to see what kind of 'outcry' there will be from the school and laity.  The school has over 200 children and the parish is around 400-500 people overall - a very large, and rapidly growing chapel.  I also think this is a form of pyschological war, to condition the laity to slowly accept the future reality of being under the local bishop.  I'm sure this is not an isolated incident and has happened at other chapels around the country.

    ---
    Here is a run-down of the 'greatest hits' of this ultra-liberal, Bishop Foys.
     
    1) The Northern KY 'right to life' group is one of the most conservative and active groups in all of KY.  There are so many catholics in the N.Ky and Cincinnati area that this 'right to life' group often affects many political races and has done countless good.  Bishop Foys has told his diocese to cut ties with this group because they are 'not collaborative' with opposing views.

    http://www.wave3.com/story/5588139/diocese-bars-area-right-to-life-group-from-churches?clienttype=printable

    2.  Bishop Foys denied the printing of an advertisement in the diocesan newspaper for a public rosary march in honor of Our Lady of Fatima, organized by traditionals in the area.

    3.  The Covington diocese has a very active homosexual community, supported by the Bishop.

    Lord have mercy.


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    Re: "Ultra Liberal" N.O. Bishop visits SSPX chapel/school in Walton, KY
    « Reply #11 on: February 27, 2018, 09:26:11 AM »
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    Why the surprise?
    It's Kentucky...
     ...backwards is forwards and up is down.
    Fanny, I know you have a personal vendetta against Fr Pfeiffer (and it may be warranted), who's from Ky, but this has nothing to do with that.  Fr Pfeiffer is over 1.5 hrs away from N.Ky.

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    « Reply #12 on: February 27, 2018, 09:29:38 AM »
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  • Fr told him that (paraphrasing) "Bishop Foys asked to visit and since he's our bishop, we didn't want to say no." 

    But ... is he your bishop?  Inserting his name into the canon at Mass doesn't suffice.

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    « Reply #13 on: February 27, 2018, 09:44:38 AM »
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  • My favorite politicians happen to be from Kentucky.  
    Need I say More?

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  • Fanny, I know you have a personal vendetta against Fr Pfeiffer (and it may be warranted), who's from Ky, but this has nothing to do with that.  Fr Pfeiffer is over 1.5 hrs away from N.Ky.
    Has nothing to do with fr. Pfeiffer specifically.

    Just look at the yuk that comes from ky.  
    Here's a recent example:
    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/fr-robinson's-new-book-'the-realist-guide-to-religion-and-science'/

    It is no wonder a certain true, legitimate, exorcist won't even enter that state...


     

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