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Offline MarcelJude

'their fruits are barren and God is not with them' --SSPX Against the Rumors--
« on: October 29, 2019, 12:44:50 PM »
Not strictly against the rumors, but definitely proves the point that the New Superior General has not compromised with Rome and accepted the new spirit. The Resistance is splintered, just like the Sedevacantists; their fruits are barren and God is not with them:

https://bit.ly/2MWehgP
fbpage: https://www.facebook.com/SspxAgainstTheRumors/
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Offline Simple

Re: 'their fruits are barren and God is not with them' --SSPX Against the Rumors--
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2019, 01:16:18 PM »
Your statement only amounts to the reinforcement of turf wars.

If the premise for the existence of the sspx was legitimate at its start why create an alliance of deception with the modernist Church.

Moral authority is lost in this debate
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Offline Nishant Xavier

Re: 'their fruits are barren and God is not with them' --SSPX Against the Rumors--
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2019, 03:33:15 PM »
Things have changed after Summorum PontificuŠ¼ in 2007 and Universae Ecclesiae in 2011, just as Bishop Fellay expected and predicted, and as H.E. wrote in a letter. The signs and fruits of that are all around us in terms of many conservative Catholics coming to Tradition. I predict that movement will only grow stronger over the next decade, with tens of millions more Catholics doing the same.

God bless Fr. Pagliarani. Can anyone prove what Rev. Father said is wrong? The Resistance is indeed splintered, because it has no principle of unity.

That's why you have some like Fr. Pfeiffer, Fr. Hello et al call the normal Resistance the "fake Resistance".  :facepalm: Talk about unnecessarily splintering the little flock of Jesus Christ.
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Offline Meg

Re: 'their fruits are barren and God is not with them' --SSPX Against the Rumors--
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2019, 04:26:22 PM »
Does anyone know who owns the Facebook page in the OP? It may not be owned by the SSPX. Maybe it's a layman who has a grudge against the Resistance.

The Resistance under Bp. Williamson is unified. The four Resistance bishops, and the priests who are affiliated with them get along quite well, from what I can tell. They don't associate with Fr. Pfeiffer's group, that's true. 

By the same token, one could say that the priestly fraternities whom provide the traditional sacraments are splintered. After all, the SSPX is not unified with the FSSP or ICK. Though they might like to be. When the Archbishop was alive, after the consecrations, he said that those who left the SSPX at that time to reconcile with Modernist Rome (who became the FSSP) were traitors. I don't recall him saying that unity among traditionalists was his biggest concern. He wanted to keep the traditional sacraments alive.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: 'their fruits are barren and God is not with them' --SSPX Against the Rumors--
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2019, 05:06:11 PM »
Quote from: XavierSem on November 07, 2019, 03:33:15 PM
That's why you have some like Fr. Pfeiffer, Fr. Hello et al call the normal Resistance the "fake Resistance".  :facepalm: Talk about unnecessarily splintering the little flock of Jesus Christ.
 
What are you talking about?  As if the SSPX has not "splintered".  90% of the Traditional groups out there are in fact splinters that came off the SSPX.  Over the years, the SSPX has done a lot of fence sitting, and a lot of priests (and faithful) decide to come off the fence and go to one side of the other.  For as many priests as remain in the SSPX, you'll find just as many who were ordained and then eventually left.  FSSP is in fact a splintering of the Society.  So are most sedevacantist groups.  And the SSPX has no legitimate source of unity either.  For many years it was based on the charisma of Archbishop Lefebvre, and the esteem and respect that priests had for him.  But there's only one real Catholic source of unity, and that is the papacy, and anything else is fake artificial unity.  And spare me (beforehand) the allegation that the SSPX derives its unity from the papacy, since the SSPX has always been at odds with the papacy, this conflict being their very raison d'etre.  But, then, even WITHIN the Church, there have always been many, many different Rites, religious orders, congregations, etc.
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