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Offline Domitilla

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« Reply #45 on: July 13, 2013, 11:13:10 AM »
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  • Ancien regime, do you know Fr. Albert's current status?  Is he still in Browerville, MN, ministering to the Sisters of the SSPX?  Do you know why he is no longer affiliated with the Dominicans of Avrille?

    I ask these questions because I have known him since 1999 and have always had the highest regard for him.

    What a terrible time we are all passing through ... Kyrie Eleison.

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    « Reply #46 on: July 13, 2013, 12:13:48 PM »
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  • Quote from: Domitilla
    Ancien regime, do you know Fr. Albert's current status?  Is he still in Browerville, MN, ministering to the Sisters of the SSPX?  Do you know why he is no longer affiliated with the Dominicans of Avrille?

    I ask these questions because I have known him since 1999 and have always had the highest regard for him.

    What a terrible time we are all passing through ... Kyrie Eleison.


    Fr Albert is no longer with the Dominicans??? :surprised:
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    « Reply #47 on: July 13, 2013, 12:46:14 PM »
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    Ancien regime, do you know Fr. Albert's current status?  Is he still in Browerville, MN, ministering to the Sisters of the SSPX?  Do you know why he is no longer affiliated with the Dominicans of Avrille?

    I ask these questions because I have known him since 1999 and have always had the highest regard for him.

    What a terrible time we are all passing through ... Kyrie Eleison.


    Fr Albert is no longer with the Dominicans??? :surprised:


    He is still a Dominican (wearing the full habit etc..). A friend gave me some of the reasons for why Fr. Albert is no longer attached to Avrille but I am afraid I don't remember much of it. I do know know that Fr. Albert also spent some time in Silver City as well.

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    « Reply #48 on: July 13, 2013, 02:55:12 PM »
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    "Ah, yes! -- the old Silver-City-hotbed-of-unexpected-capitulation trick!"



     


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    « Reply #49 on: July 13, 2013, 03:09:04 PM »
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    Agreed on all counts.

    I will not post further on this thread.


    Less than a day later........

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    Ancien regime, do you know ... passing through ... Kyrie Eleison.


    Fr Albert is no longer with the Dominicans??? ...


    Wait a minute -- didn't you just say you would not post
    further on this thread???   :scratchchin:
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    « Reply #50 on: July 13, 2013, 04:06:52 PM »
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  • All I know is that Fr. Albert formally left the convent after he returned to France last fall. I do not know why, but I understand it was his decision. When I heard that he had been replaced as the friar in charge of the English-speaking Tertiaries, I asked about him and was told that he had indeed left, that he no longer represents the Couvent de la Haye aux Bonshommes in any way and that they no longer have any authority over him, and that this situation is public knowledge.

    A few weeks ago, a person told me that he said to that person that he thought the Dominicans of Avrille were too strict. Evidently he has also tried to dissuade at least one person from joining the Third Order.

    So, while he is still a Dominican (as far as I know), he is not affiliated with a particular convent. I guess he's just out there on his own. Evidently he is still hanging out with the Society here in the U.S., but I personally do not know where or in what capacity.

    I was very sad to hear that he had left the convent, but it really sounds like he has gone over to the Neo-SSPX way of looking at things now.


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    « Reply #51 on: July 13, 2013, 05:27:08 PM »
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  • Ancien Regime and Obscurus, thank you for responding to my questions about Fr. Albert.  When a priest of his caliber gives up the good fight and joins the modernist wing, it is extremely tragic for the poor scattering sheep.  Kyrie Eleison ...

    May Our Lady of Good Success strengthen and guide the good Fr. Albert back to Avrille, from where he could successfully finish the course and keep the Holy Faith.  

    Prayers for Fr. Albert!  


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    « Reply #52 on: July 13, 2013, 09:39:45 PM »
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    Ancien Regime and Obscurus, thank you for responding to my questions about Fr. Albert.  When a priest of his caliber gives up the good fight and joins the modernist wing, it is extremely tragic for the poor scattering sheep.  Kyrie Eleison ...

    May Our Lady of Good Success strengthen and guide the good Fr. Albert back to Avrille, from where he could successfully finish the course and keep the Holy Faith.  

    Prayers for Fr. Albert!  



    Since when has Avrille become a stronghold of the Resistance?

    Last I heard, they had given Bishop Fellay sufficient proof of their loyalty to him, and received their coveted ordinations as a result.

    The world has not heard a peep from them since!

    Perhaps Fr. Albert has left because Avrille are a bunch of accordistas?
    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."


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    « Reply #53 on: July 14, 2013, 05:36:43 AM »
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  • Yeah, that's why Father's now working with the SSPX in the U.S.? Knock knock, anybody home?

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    Ancien Regime and Obscurus, thank you for responding to my questions about Fr. Albert.  When a priest of his caliber gives up the good fight and joins the modernist wing, it is extremely tragic for the poor scattering sheep.  Kyrie Eleison ...

    May Our Lady of Good Success strengthen and guide the good Fr. Albert back to Avrille, from where he could successfully finish the course and keep the Holy Faith.  

    Prayers for Fr. Albert!  



    Since when has Avrille become a stronghold of the Resistance?

    Last I heard, they had given Bishop Fellay sufficient proof of their loyalty to him, and received their coveted ordinations as a result.

    The world has not heard a peep from them since!

    Perhaps Fr. Albert has left because Avrille are a bunch of accordistas?

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    « Reply #54 on: July 14, 2013, 05:43:22 AM »
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  • Well, SJ, I do apologize if I mistakenly believed that Avrille was still holding the line.  However, Ancien Regime stated that Fr. Albert allegedly believes that the Avrille Dominicans are too strict and as a consequence, has discouraged one person from becoming a Third Order Dominican.  In addition, the Angelus Press has listed him as a speaker at one of their upcoming events.  What is known about his current status does not lead one to believe he is among the Resistance Priests.

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    « Reply #55 on: July 14, 2013, 11:24:14 AM »
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  • I know that Randy Engel has touched up on the scandals at SSJ, and I think Fr. Roberts as well. I am a fan of her and her work. I don't recall the precise details regarding Fr. Roberts.

    What I can say, however, is that Fr. Urrigoity is a sick pervert, and Fr. Roberts' involvement with him does make me suspicious of him. I hope he's innocent of the rumors against him like he claims he is, but I do think there is reason to be suspicious.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #56 on: July 14, 2013, 01:55:38 PM »
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    There were quite a few former SSPX priests who wound up affiliated with the Society of St John, and they became affiliated with "Bishop" Timlin, and, several years later, Scranton Diocese is paying a major sex-abuse lawsuit for these "men." Some of these men worked themselves down to South America, to start over. Some of them became affiliated with other boys schools in the US. These schools have now, also, suffered the consequences of imprudently allowing these men to minister around young children.

    The devil is wild. You know full well that Our Lady said the leaders at the top will lose their faith; you know that Pope Leo witnessed the battle wherein the devil claimed he would be victorious in 100 years; you know full well that the Alta Vendita made it their prime objective to destroy the Catholic Church, and destroying the Catholic Mass was a necessary prerequisite.You know to destroy the Catholic Church, you need to destroy the priesthood of Jesus Christ. You know full well that Ratzinger made it official policy to just move the perverts around, and not have them punished ( this allowed the to magnify their perversions by many times-- all over the world). And you know that the Communists specifically recruited ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs to become priests!

    Why be surprised that Tradition is under attacked? Of course we will be attacked! Even perverts will flock to tradition-- because they know they can ply their trade un-hampered! Right now, the true Sacrifice of the Mass is not being offered ANYWHERE else but in Traditional Chapels! Only in Traditional Chapels and Churches can the devil get the glee of destroying souls dedicated to Jesus Christ, of actually attacking Christ in His Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity.
    So, pray for your priests. Support them. But be wary.





    Great post, hugeman.
    .  Agree
    May God bless you and keep you

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    « Reply #57 on: July 19, 2013, 03:23:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
    I know that Randy Engel has touched up on the scandals at SSJ, and I think Fr. Roberts as well. I am a fan of her and her work. I don't recall the precise details regarding Fr. Roberts.

    What I can say, however, is that Fr. Urrigoity is a sick pervert, and Fr. Roberts' involvement with him does make me suspicious of him. I hope he's innocent of the rumors against him like he claims he is, but I do think there is reason to be suspicious.



    I have known Fr.Roberts for close to five years and I don't see any reason to be suspicious.

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    « Reply #58 on: August 04, 2013, 05:09:18 PM »
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    1. So, by what right does Father use the initials O.P. if only a postulant? Postulancy does not admit one into the Order, strictly speaking in most Orders, First Profession of Temporary Vows admits one into the Order and allows the religious to use the Order's initials, but for the Dominicans, the Novitiate does.

    2. Which Dominican received Fr. Roberts into the First Order of Preachers (Dominican Friars)?

    3. Since when do postulants take a religious name and wear the habit? In the Dominicans this only happens upon Vestition (receiving the habit and becoming a novice).


    1. and 3. Do Dominican friars have a postulancy at all? I'm asking because I have a booklet from 1944 about the Carmelite friars, and they mention that only the lay-brothers and nuns have a postulancy (of six months). The friars spend just a few days in the community, getting used to the life, then go straight into a pre-clothing retreat, before receiving the habit and taking a religious name.

    I recently read the obituary of a English Dominican friar and he too seems to have entered directly into the novitiate without a postulancy.

    2. As the only traditional Dominicans in the world are at Avrille in France and are linked to the SSPX, and Fr. Roberts is in the Resistance, he would have to go ahead on his own - which is perfectly possible in an emergency.

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    « Reply #59 on: August 04, 2013, 05:37:12 PM »
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    the only traditional Dominicans in the world are at Avrille in France and are linked to the SSPX, ........


    I seem to recall that at the 2012 Ordinations, +Fellay refused ordination to the candidates from Avrille (in quite a brouhaha, I might add), because of their stance against him, but I thought their candidates this year were ordained with no commotion. Does this mean that their head capitulated to the NeoSSPX and +Fellay?