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"Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
« on: December 20, 2020, 01:03:46 AM »
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  • From the website of the Dominicans of Avrilé:

    http://www.dominicainsavrille.fr/mgr-lefebvre-conference-a-shawinigan-22-aout-1979/#more-9431

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    We are going, at the moment, towards a socialization which apparently for us, does not seem as hard as the one of communism but which, in the end, will be simply an image of communism, but realized by scientific means instead of being realized by force.
    On August 22, 1979, Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre gave a conference in Shawinigan, Quebec.
    We have extracted this passage which seems almost like a prophecy, so much so that it announces, more than forty years in advance, the situation that we know.
    Let us recall that in 1979 computers were in their infancy, we were at the very first desktop computers.
    The Internet did not exist, nor of course the 5G.
    We were still in the middle of the Cold War, communism was in the East.

    One can think that on this 22nd of August, feast of the Immaculate Heart of Mary, the Blessed Virgin gave Archbishop Lefebvre an intuition of what would happen if the popes persisted in not fulfilling his Fatima requests, notably the devotion to the first five Saturdays of the month and the consecration of Russia to her Immaculate Heart.
    And the popes were obstinate... 
    So:
    "Soon we'll be registered with computers, we'll all have our number and we won't be able to do anything without everything being indicated on the card we'll have, and all this by computer. We will be in a worse situation than in a Soviet country. »


    Words of Archbishop Lefebvre: 

    But what also legitimizes our fear is to think that by this degradation of the Church, this degradation of ideas even in the Church, ideas, because it is liberal ideas that penetrate inside the Church, ideas that are ultimately Masonic that penetrate inside the Church, which was still the bastion that resisted. Now that the enemy has penetrated to the highest heights of the Church, as Our Lady of Fatima said, as predicted by Our Lady of Fatima and Our Lady of La Salette, at the same time the whole social edifice is leaving, because the Church, through its principles, still supported, I would say, true freedom. The freedom to fulfill our duty. That's it. Why do we have freedom? To fulfill our duty. Because we have the duty to love God and to love our neighbor and therefore to fulfill our duty, our duty to God in religion and our duty to our neighbor by the functions we have; social functions whatever they may be. We have to fulfill our duty of state.

    Now, we are less and less able to fulfill our duty of state, both religious and social, because everything is becoming directed and oriented by a socialist state. Socialism is making considerable progress; but this is with all the power of the present Masonry which is everywhere, everywhere, everywhere; which is in Rome, which is everywhere. Masonry is everywhere and directs everything. Soon we will be registered with computers, we will all have our number and we will not be able to do anything else without everything being indicated on the card we will have, and all this by computer. We will be in a worse situation than in a Soviet country. We will say that they are free countries, but they are not free countries: we will no longer be free to do anything. One can imagine, it's absolutely unheard of.

    The constitution also of the European government is very serious and very dangerous, because it is a government that is full of Masons, and therefore, they are going to apply now to Europe, in a global way, all the Masonic principles. They went so far as to say this, for the European government, that, obviously, they proclaim human rights, they proclaim the rights of women. If women have equal rights with men, well, we do not have the right not to give women the authorization to be priests. So we are going to prosecute the bishops who do not want to ordain women, because women have the same rights as men. It's possible, it was put in the newspapers, it was put in the newspapers; that we were going to get to things like that, under the pretext of rights, of equal rights.

    It's appalling, we can't imagine what we're going towards now, towards a socialization that, apparently for us, doesn't seem as hard as that of communism, but in the end, it's going to be just an image of communism, but realized by scientific means instead of being realized by force, as the communists did, it will be the same thing.

    Then all those who do not want to submit to this order will be eliminated from society. To this socialist order. They will be eliminated. There will always be a way to eliminate them. Now we are eliminating the children who are in the way, soon we will eliminate the old people. Soon the old people will also pass away; and afterwards, it is not difficult to give an injection or to do something to someone who is sick, who is annoying; they will make him disappear. They will be made to disappear from society under the pretext that they are embarrassing. They can't get the standards that are in place to deal with them. We are really moving towards a dreadful society, which claims to be free and which will no longer have any freedom, but no freedom at all.


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    Re: "Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
    « Reply #1 on: December 20, 2020, 07:01:06 AM »
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  • Good find. I'd not ever seen that quote before. It is indeed prophetic. 

    I think that cell phones will ultimately be the tracking device that we're all supposed to have. Most people have smart phones or 
    I-phones. We don't have assigned numbers yet, but that's probably coming. 
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: "Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
    « Reply #2 on: December 20, 2020, 08:00:11 AM »
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  • The Archbishop clearly received many graces from God, especially the gift of Wisdom, Prudence, Fortitude, etc. -- pretty much all the Gifts of the Holy Ghost, come to think of it.

    He was a holy man, very united to God. When you're that close to God, the truth is also familiar like a close friend. You see things clearly.

    The devil is the father of lies; God is Truth.

    That is why I hate lies and error as much as I love God -- as we all must do.
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    Re: "Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
    « Reply #3 on: December 20, 2020, 11:22:35 AM »
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  • Good find. I'd not ever seen that quote before. It is indeed prophetic.

    I think that cell phones will ultimately be the tracking device that we're all supposed to have. Most people have smart phones or
    I-phones. We don't have assigned numbers yet, but that's probably coming.
    Yes, we do have assigned numbers.  It is SOCIAL security numbers.  
    May God bless you and keep you

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    Re: "Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
    « Reply #4 on: December 20, 2020, 02:21:02 PM »
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  • Yes, we do have assigned numbers.  It is SOCIAL security numbers.  
    Social registration numbers covering pensions and other payments predate the prophecy, and they were already on computer by then.


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    Re: "Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
    « Reply #5 on: December 20, 2020, 04:35:52 PM »
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  • Fascinating. I truly believe that the Archbishop will be canonized during the Sixth Age of the Church. 
    What I find especially notable is how he highlighted the importance of how subtle this will be: 

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    It's appalling, we can't imagine what we're going towards now, towards a socialization that, apparently for us, doesn't seem as hard as that of communism, but in the end, it's going to be just an image of communism, but realized by scientific means instead of being realized by force, as the communists did, it will be the same thing.

    This is what will make this form of communism even worse than the previous forms. Soft tyranny is always worse than tyranny by force, since tyranny by force makes it difficult to seduce people into believing what the regime wants them to believe.

     If I had to guess, this is because the regime in a hard tyranny system can't really sell the illusion of wanting to protect its people, since it uses physical violence and/or imprisonment as the main means of social coercion. In a soft tyranny system, the dissidents are not outright punished in a physical way; rather, they are villainized by the media while the compliant are told how "good" they are for following the rules. A soft tyranny government wants to appear benevolent to its people so that the people will sincerely trust them and consider them their protector, whereas a hard tyranny government wants to simply maintain their grip on power and scare the population into submission through direct violence. I think we are undergoing a transition between a soft tyranny system to a hard tyranny system. 

    In various ways, our Western governments have been Marxist/Communist for some time now, which should not be a surprise since Western Marxism (Gramsci) was always more subtle than its Eastern counterparts in China and Russia. One only needs to look at China or Vietnam today to see that a "Command Economy" is not necessary for a Communist government to exist, but a lot of people have been duped into the idea that is precisely what a Communist government requires. However, as the Archbishop stated, this new technocratic Communism will effectively be the same as the old Communism. 

    Too many people put their trust in "science", in the government, the media...pretty much EVERYTHING except God, and so they fall for the incremental implementation of this tyranny that we lament day by day. 





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    Re: "Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
    « Reply #6 on: December 20, 2020, 04:59:07 PM »
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  • Yes, we do have assigned numbers.  It is SOCIAL security numbers.  
    And in Canada it's called a SIN card (social insurance number).
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: "Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
    « Reply #7 on: December 21, 2020, 04:55:26 AM »
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  • Yes, we do have assigned numbers.  It is SOCIAL security numbers.  

    I don't think that's what +ABL was referring to. After all, SSN's were in use long before 1979.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: "Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
    « Reply #8 on: December 21, 2020, 06:27:24 AM »
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  • We will say that they are free countries, but they are not free countries: we will no longer be free to do anything.“

    Rom 5: 20 - "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

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    Re: "Prophecy" of Archbishop Lefebvre
    « Reply #9 on: December 21, 2020, 07:20:40 AM »
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  • Indeed.

    Cast off the sweet yoke of the Gospel -- God's law -- and you will have to accept, whether you like it or not, the hard burden of satan's tyranny.

    There is no alternative. The whole world, our whole existence, is God vs. satan. You have to pick a side. If you choose no side, it is satan by default.

    Furthermore, those who reject God's law and the sweet yoke of the Gospel DESERVE EVERY BIT of the satanic tyranny. God is just; he will use totalitarian regimes, etc. as a scourge to punish those who reject Him. God is good.
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