Quote from: Clemens Maria

Quote from: 62myer

Hello.

I am a recent convert to Pope Michael from Sedevacantism.

He is a gentle and caring man who has really been trashed by those (almost all self-professed Christians) who lives revolve around there own Ideals.

I am Interested in what you think of Pope Michael ?

I know everyone is right and I am wrong, so I will not debate because I will always Lose.

Thanks.

I don't think his election meets the requirements for being a true Bishop of Rome.  He would need to be accepted by the clergy.  I can't really define precisely what acceptance means but certainly it doesn't appear that there was much of an effort on the electors' part to represent the interests of the Roman Church nor the universal Church and that is reflected in a very miniscule acceptance of his claim.  Furthermore, Michael himself has not really attempted to minister to the faithful in Rome.  How can you be the Bishop of Rome when you live in Kansas and have zero care for or influence over the faithful in Rome?

That being said, I agree with Wessex and I am willing to re-evaluate my opinion if there is a major change in the circuмstances.

I have a question for you.  Do you know if Michael has been consecrated yet?  If so, can you give me details on his ordination to the diaconate and priesthood and on his consecration?  i.e. who was the bishop in each case and when and where were they conferred?

Hello. It would help to watch Pope Michael's You Tube Videos. His Oldest ones. He sent out letters to all Sedevacantists and thought this election matter over for years before the election happened.

I know to most, Pope Michael seems like a joke. I am currently  a seminarian of his. I am presently studying long-distance. I am a new one. I am not Phil Fridel from the docuмentary. This is a step that I have thought out and I also hope to be married; whether or not I become a married priest.

I have spent a week with Pope, Phil, and a few others who are in theological agreement with Pope Michael. The man has the Love of a child in his heart and soul. We know how children are violated, abused, and mistreated. Mr. David Bawden has been thrown away by people that will dismiss him as a lunatic, nut-case, retard, etc.

We are not living in the golden-age of the church. We are living in the Great Apostasy. Mr. David Bawden would gladly have been a good, saintly priest without having to go through the process of an election.

Pope Michael was consecrated. I do not know all the details. I would call or e-mail him for more information.

I am open to comments, criticism, and/or suggestions.

Thanks.

Why do you accept his consecration even though it's not canonically valid?

I agree Mr. Bawden loves Mother Church and appears to have some virtues.  However..........piety is not proof that a man is Pope just like lack of piety is not proof that a man isn't Pope.

Quote from: 62myer

Quote from: Clemens Maria

Quote from: 62myer

Hello.

I am a recent convert to Pope Michael from Sedevacantism.

He is a gentle and caring man who has really been trashed by those (almost all self-professed Christians) who lives revolve around there own Ideals.

I am Interested in what you think of Pope Michael ?

I know everyone is right and I am wrong, so I will not debate because I will always Lose.

Thanks.

I don't think his election meets the requirements for being a true Bishop of Rome.  He would need to be accepted by the clergy.  I can't really define precisely what acceptance means but certainly it doesn't appear that there was much of an effort on the electors' part to represent the interests of the Roman Church nor the universal Church and that is reflected in a very miniscule acceptance of his claim.  Furthermore, Michael himself has not really attempted to minister to the faithful in Rome.  How can you be the Bishop of Rome when you live in Kansas and have zero care for or influence over the faithful in Rome?

That being said, I agree with Wessex and I am willing to re-evaluate my opinion if there is a major change in the circuмstances.

I have a question for you.  Do you know if Michael has been consecrated yet?  If so, can you give me details on his ordination to the diaconate and priesthood and on his consecration?  i.e. who was the bishop in each case and when and where were they conferred?

Hello. It would help to watch Pope Michael's You Tube Videos. His Oldest ones. He sent out letters to all Sedevacantists and thought this election matter over for years before the election happened.

I know to most, Pope Michael seems like a joke. I am currently  a seminarian of his. I am presently studying long-distance. I am a new one. I am not Phil Fridel from the docuмentary. This is a step that I have thought out and I also hope to be married; whether or not I become a married priest.

I have spent a week with Pope, Phil, and a few others who are in theological agreement with Pope Michael. The man has the Love of a child in his heart and soul. We know how children are violated, abused, and mistreated. Mr. David Bawden has been thrown away by people that will dismiss him as a lunatic, nut-case, retard, etc.

We are not living in the golden-age of the church. We are living in the Great Apostasy. Mr. David Bawden would gladly have been a good, saintly priest without having to go through the process of an election.

Pope Michael was consecrated. I do not know all the details. I would call or e-mail him for more information.

I am open to comments, criticism, and/or suggestions.

Thanks.

Why do you accept his consecration even though it's not canonically valid?

I agree Mr. Bawden loves Mother Church and appears to have some virtues.  However..........piety is not proof that a man is Pope just like lack of piety is not proof that a man isn't Pope.

Thanks.

Can you please explain to me why the consecration is not valid ?

We all have read and studied, so I am open to everyones interpertations.

And I do hold the salvation dogma. I am not a Liberal or a Moderinst.

I think this exchange just proves that it is impossible to take Michael's claim seriously.

All I am asking is give Pope Michael a chance.

Wait until Judgment Day.

You may think Pope Michael, our Bishop, and Phil and I are wackos and fakes .... But we have a Blue Print from God who knows the End from the Beginning.

So, when time Ends .... We will see who Truly Has Been With Christ From The Beginning.

62,

Why hasn't Pope Michael consecrated Russia to the Immaculate Heart?

You could ask Pope Michael.

Personally, I think we are at the end of time and at the doors of the 3 days of darkness !!

John 23rd spit in the face of The BVM and repressed the Truth.

Pope Michael, our Bishop, and Phil have really helped me and are the three nicest men I have ever known. They are not arrogant and are not yet Saints -- And neither am I -- But in this Evil Age -- We are retaining the Faith of The Apostles.

He doesn't even merit the title of anti-pope.

Not that you would ever care -- but God has shown me many future events in my Life via prophetic dreams -- and the True God brought me to the Pope and Bishop people so commonly and assiduously mock and scorn !!

 :shocked:



Looks like we've got a "prophet" on our hands.

62myer, I've read all your comments.  You are a humble soul.  God bless you in your honest quest for His Truth.... you've repeated this theme a few times:

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I am open to comments, criticism, and/or suggestions.

There are very learned men on this forum, sede or not.  Some may not have the best bedside manner, but do have good intent in defending the Faith. Keep seeking Truth, He will guide you.

Thanks my friend. My intent in posting is not to advertise for my Pope and Bishop; rather I just grew tired of the slanders and verbal assaults being spewed at both of them. Not so much here, but everywhere else.

I want to defend Pope Michael and our Bishop. I have meet both of them and have had a one year relationship with them and Phil also. We hold the Faith as best we can. What else can we do if we Love God ??

As our Bishop once said: "If the Apostles believed it, who am I to change what Jesus taught."

Have any of you watched Pope Michael's videos ? If so, what do you think of them ?