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Does anyone but his mother think he is actually the Vicar of Christ?

I read that he recently got a Bishop to ordain him a priest, consecrate him a bishop, and follow him. I think it was a Thuc line bishop. So he does have a small following. :king:

The consecrator is Bishop Robert Biarnesen.  Does anyone know anything about him?

A simple google search turns up the following link:

http://popemichael.vaticaninexile.com/Files/The%20Consecration%20of%20Pope%20Michael.pdf

Who Is Bishop Robert Biarnesen?

Bishop Biarnesen left the Novus Ordo in the mid 1980's. He had already begun to
work in prison ministry in Texas as a layman. A Traditionalist priest, Fr. Carl
Pulvermacher, recommended he go over to a Bishop in the Duarte-Costa line in order to be ordained a deacon. In 1986 he was indeed ordained deacon. In 2005 he moved to Arizona and began prison ministry there. At the recommendation of the officials he
sought ordination in the Duarte-Costa line so he could continue ministry as a priest. He
had made contact with the Vatican in Exile earlier on and continued to email on occasion, until 2010 when he offered to assist in obtaining ordination and consecration for Pope Michael. This was finally accomplished after much effort at the end of 2011 as reported above. Bishop Biarnesen is in full communion with the Catholic Church under HisHoliness Pope Michael.

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A guy who has no evidence of ever having been ordained a priest or consecrated a bishop, claims to occupy the Seat of Peter, because his parents and relatives held a papal election.  That same man, proceeds to celebrate or pretend to celebrate the Holy Mass, and then points the finger at ABL for never declaring the new rite of ordination to be invalid.  Is "pope" Michael's ordination valid?  Who performed it?  How about his consecration?  Furthermore, even as a layman, his argument against ABL is ludicrous, because how could ABL have made a declaration of something about which he was not certain?  Is "pope" Michael suggesting the the archbishop should have lied???  And his reasoning for why ABL should have made the declaration is for political/pragmatic reasons.  Does the Holy Church make theological declarations based on politics, pragmatics, and convenience???  So let me reiterate what others have said already, who cares what "pope" Michael thinks?

From official records David Bawden was ordained a priest and consecrated a bishop (photos of the event):

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.403269786369604.105467.205851636111421&type=3

Of course that doesn't make him a POPE!!!

These pictures do not prove anything-------haven't you seen kids play house?

You did not answer the question-----Who ordained him a priest? when? and where?

As for the episcopal consecration, I would seriously question the credentials of the one consecrating him.

Quote from: Sigismund

Does anyone but his mother think he is actually the Vicar of Christ?

I read that he recently got a Bishop to ordain him a priest, consecrate him a bishop, and follow him. I think it was a Thuc line bishop. So he does have a small following. :king:

The Duarte-Costa line is not the Thuc line........it is more bizarre

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Duarte_Costa]

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A personal assistant in India?  

That's either a very safe distance or else a very long commute.


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Quote from: Matto

Quote from: Sigismund

Does anyone but his mother think he is actually the Vicar of Christ?

I read that he recently got a Bishop to ordain him a priest, consecrate him a bishop, and follow him. I think it was a Thuc line bishop. So he does have a small following. :king:

The consecrator is Bishop Robert Biarnesen.  Does anyone know anything about him?

A simple google search turns up the following link:

http://popemichael.vaticaninexile.com/Files/The%20Consecration%20of%20Pope%20Michael.pdf

Who Is Bishop Robert Biarnesen?

Bishop Biarnesen left the Novus Ordo in the mid 1980's. He had already begun to
work in prison ministry in Texas as a layman. A Traditionalist priest, Fr. Carl
Pulvermacher, recommended he go over to a Bishop in the Duarte-Costa line in order to be ordained a deacon. In 1986 he was indeed ordained deacon. In 2005 he moved to Arizona and began prison ministry there. At the recommendation of the officials he
sought ordination in the Duarte-Costa line so he could continue ministry as a priest. He
had made contact with the Vatican in Exile earlier on and continued to email on occasion, until 2010 when he offered to assist in obtaining ordination and consecration for Pope Michael. This was finally accomplished after much effort at the end of 2011 as reported above. Bishop Biarnesen is in full communion with the Catholic Church under HisHoliness Pope Michael.

Duarte-Costa was certainly a valid bishop, having been a Roman Catholic bishop before rebelling against Pope Pius XXII, but he is also just as certainly schismatic.  Not a hook I would want to hang my mitre on.  

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A personal assistant in India?  

That's either a very safe distance or else a very long commute. .

Obviously an unique papacy! I hear that the Indian guy is still with Pope Michael, so he definitely has three faithful at least. I wish Pope Linus II would also start a website so that we could see what he is up to. I believe he is based in England.

Informed sources say that the Indian is a dangerous guy:

http://archive.indianexpress.com/news/indian-writers-slam-mass-killer-breivik-for-quoting-them/838596/

 :devil2: goes to show that Bawden is dangerous...

Welcome to the site. At a time when the guys in Rome do not know what they are anymore, a positive candidate for the highest office stands a good chance of being noticed by the Almighty.

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Hello.

I am a recent convert to Pope Michael from Sedevacantism.

He is a gentle and caring man who has really been trashed by those (almost all self-professed Christians) who lives revolve around there own Ideals.

I am Interested in what you think of Pope Michael ?

I know everyone is right and I am wrong, so I will not debate because I will always Lose.

Thanks.

I don't think his election meets the requirements for being a true Bishop of Rome.  He would need to be accepted by the clergy.  I can't really define precisely what acceptance means but certainly it doesn't appear that there was much of an effort on the electors' part to represent the interests of the Roman Church nor the universal Church and that is reflected in a very miniscule acceptance of his claim.  Furthermore, Michael himself has not really attempted to minister to the faithful in Rome.  How can you be the Bishop of Rome when you live in Kansas and have zero care for or influence over the faithful in Rome?

That being said, I agree with Wessex and I am willing to re-evaluate my opinion if there is a major change in the circuмstances.

I have a question for you.  Do you know if Michael has been consecrated yet?  If so, can you give me details on his ordination to the diaconate and priesthood and on his consecration?  i.e. who was the bishop in each case and when and where were they conferred?

Hello. It would help to watch Pope Michael's You Tube Videos. His Oldest ones. He sent out letters to all Sedevacantists and thought this election matter over for years before the election happened.

I know to most, Pope Michael seems like a joke. I am currently  a seminarian of his. I am presently studying long-distance. I am a new one. I am not Phil Fridel from the docuмentary. This is a step that I have thought out and I also hope to be married; whether or not I become a married priest.

I have spent a week with Pope, Phil, and a few others who are in theological agreement with Pope Michael. The man has the Love of a child in his heart and soul. We know how children are violated, abused, and mistreated. Mr. David Bawden has been thrown away by people that will dismiss him as a lunatic, nut-case, retard, etc.

We are not living in the golden-age of the church. We are living in the Great Apostasy. Mr. David Bawden would gladly have been a good, saintly priest without having to go through the process of an election.

Pope Michael was consecrated. I do not know all the details. I would call or e-mail him for more information.

I am open to comments, criticism, and/or suggestions.

Thanks.