Author Topic: "No honest Catholic should attend an SSPX Mass" (Read 17748 times)

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #30 on:** October 26, 2019, 10:55:13 PM »

If validity is your only litmus test for attendance, then had you lived in England under Henry VIII, you’d certainly have become Anglican, whose rites were certainly valid for many decades.

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #31 on:** October 26, 2019, 10:59:07 PM »

Quote from: Pax Vobis on October 26, 2019, 10:55:13 PM

If validity is your only litmus test for attendance, then had you lived in England under Henry VIII, you’d certainly have become Anglican, whose rites were certainly valid for many decades.

Are you talking to me?

I would think not, since nowhere do I discuss validity as a litmus test for attending the NOM.

But then again, you are not a very careful reader, and an even less precise writer, so I thought I would ask.

St.Patrick · « **Reply #32 on:** October 27, 2019, 07:43:45 AM »

Sean,
Do you distinguish between those who have no understanding of Tradition, and those who do, when it comes to the grace received from Novus Ordo Sacraments?

SeanJohnson · « **Reply #33 on:** October 27, 2019, 08:40:00 AM »

Quote from: St.Patrick on October 27, 2019, 07:43:45 AM

Sean,
Do you distinguish between those who have no understanding of Tradition, and those who do, when it comes to the grace received from Novus Ordo Sacraments?

Indirectly:

If a sacrament is a sacrament, then the grace is contained in it ex opera operato.

But whether or to what extent that grace is efficacious in the recipient is determined ex opera operantis.

So, were a trad to receive NOM Communion, for some reason, he would probably receive very little grace (or none at all), as his disposition would be averse.

Pax Vobis · « **Reply #34 on:** October 27, 2019, 05:27:23 PM »

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I would think not, since nowhere do I discuss validity as a litmus test for attending the NOM.

Yes, you do. For you, validity = grace = ok to attend.
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You make no distinctions for illicit masses, nor immoral behavior. Ergo, had you lived under Henry VIII, you'd have been an Anglican. All their sacraments were valid for many decades, yet obviously illicit and immoral.

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