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Re: "No honest Catholic should attend an SSPX Mass"
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2019, 09:44:23 AM »
Post-conversion Newman on the creation of our first parents:
I was in a "Catholic" religious goods store two days ago, and found Newman stuff all over the place.  The "New" New Church hero!  He is thoroughly embraced and is useable by and useful for them.  

Re: "No honest Catholic should attend an SSPX Mass"
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2019, 12:38:48 PM »


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Sorry for the typos, Holly.
 Didn’t mean to tear your world apart.
 It will all be better tomorrow.
 But if not, you can always cry to the Bishop again like a little girl.
 I’m sure he has nothing better to do than respond to your complaints!

So that other members can put Sean’s comment above in context: Bp. W. , apparently, wrote a forward to SJ’s new book. I don’t know this for certain, because I have not purchased a copy, nor do I plan to frankly. I think I've read the person who wrote it, and that is quite enough for me.

When I saw how Sean can behave online, I thought, maybe, it might be wise to report some of his bizarre behavior to the bishop, with whom we've had something of a personal acquaintance over the years. This I did, explaining to H.E. that I cared nothing about Sean’s insults directed against me and others. I was only concerned for the bishop and his reputation. Did he wish to have a continuing association with a collaborator(?) like SJ under the circuмstances? If so, it was his call. I felt I had merely done my duty in informing him, and supplying a tidbit of Sean's posting excesses.

I heard from the bishop shortly thereafter. He emailed, in part, “You may just be hearing from him.“ Well, SJ did post an apology on CI, not only to me, but a few other forum members, as well. I think it’s obvious that this apology was inspired by H.E. 

Sean’s online behavior may simply be a sign of youthful exuberance and immaturity, I don’t know. But this much seems apparent: SJ can act pretty unhinged at times. One might even speculate  that there may be a bit of a mental or emotional problem here, and that some kind of anger management therapy might not be a bad idea.

In any case, he seems to have hijacked large portions of CI topics. And Matthew, who has been known to discipline, even ban, certain posters in the past, sits by and does nothing, or says nothing. He just steps aside and let’s it all go on. It makes one wonder.





Re: "No honest Catholic should attend an SSPX Mass"
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2019, 01:19:18 PM »

So that other members can put Sean’s comment above in context: Bp. W. , apparently, wrote a forward to SJ’s new book. I don’t know this for certain, because I have not purchased a copy, nor do I plan to frankly. I think I've read the person who wrote it, and that is quite enough for me.

When I saw how Sean can behave online, I thought, maybe, it might be wise to report some of his bizarre behavior to the bishop, with whom we've had something of a personal acquaintance over the years. This I did, explaining to H.E. that I cared nothing about Sean’s insults directed against me and others. I was only concerned for the bishop and his reputation. Did he wish to have a continuing association with a collaborator(?) like SJ under the circuмstances? If so, it was his call. I felt I had merely done my duty in informing him, and supplying a tidbit of Sean's posting excesses.

I heard from the bishop shortly thereafter. He emailed, in part, “You may just be hearing from him.“ Well, SJ did post an apology on CI, not only to me, but a few other forum members, as well. I think it’s obvious that this apology was inspired by H.E.  

Sean’s online behavior may simply be a sign of youthful exuberance and immaturity, I don’t know. But this much seems apparent: SJ can act pretty unhinged at times. One might even speculate  that there may be a bit of a mental or emotional problem here, and that some kind of anger management therapy might not be a bad idea.

In any case, he seems to have hijacked large portions of CI topics. And Matthew, who has been known to discipline, even ban, certain posters in the past, sits by and does nothing, or says nothing. He just steps aside and let’s it all go on. It makes one wonder.

Sorry Holly, but if you want to brawl, I’m gonna brawl.

Give some, get some.  Get it?

If you can’t take the heat, you should learn to keep your mouth shut, instead of cocking off, they crying when you get hit back, and playing the victim.

:baby:

Re: "No honest Catholic should attend an SSPX Mass"
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2019, 01:25:06 PM »
I'm still waiting for someone who diminishes or downplays the importance of Holy Communion for obtaining the grace of final perseverance and securing eternal life to explain to me why these quotes from the Pope are mistaken, or not applicable to our times: 

His Holiness Pope St. Pius X: "These words declare plainly enough the wish of the Church that all Christians should be daily nourished by this heavenly banquet and should derive therefrom more abundant fruit for their sanctification." Link

Doctor of the Church St. Alphonsus: "The Communion is called the bread of heaven; because as the body cannot live without earthly food, so the soul cannot live without this celestial bread. 

[Our Lord Jesus Christ]: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you (John, vi, 54).

But on the other hand, to those who frequently eat this bread, is promised eternal life. If any man eat of this bread he shall live forever (John, vi, 52). Hence the Council of Trent calls the Communion a medicine which delivers us from venial, and preserves us from mortal sins (Sess. 13, cap. 2)." Link

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Re: "No honest Catholic should attend an SSPX Mass"
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2019, 01:40:00 PM »
I'm still waiting for someone who diminishes or downplays the importance of Holy Communion for obtaining the grace of final perseverance and securing eternal life to explain to me why these quotes from the Pope are mistaken, or not applicable to our times:

His Holiness Pope St. Pius X: "These words declare plainly enough the wish of the Church that all Christians should be daily nourished by this heavenly banquet and should derive therefrom more abundant fruit for their sanctification." Link

Doctor of the Church St. Alphonsus: "The Communion is called the bread of heaven; because as the body cannot live without earthly food, so the soul cannot live without this celestial bread.

[Our Lord Jesus Christ]: Except you eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you (John, vi, 54).

But on the other hand, to those who frequently eat this bread, is promised eternal life. If any man eat of this bread he shall live forever (John, vi, 52). Hence the Council of Trent calls the Communion a medicine which delivers us from venial, and preserves us from mortal sins (Sess. 13, cap. 2)." Link
Not applicable. The conciliar church's universal and peaceful acceptance (UA or UPA) of the sacrilegious "communion in the hand" (CITH) makes the recipient who takes CITH, instantly improperly disposed Ex opere operato, which makes the above quotes not applicable (NA or N/A).