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  • "MONS. LEFEBVRE. A BISHOP IN THE STORM "
    A Jacques-Régis du Cray (2012) film

    The Internet has brought us the chance to see this much-heralded film about Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. It has been a longtime reading or hearing laudatory words about this work, released with great fanfare in the Grand Rex theater in Paris on September 29, the last year.

    But unfortunately in our opinion, has come to confirm what we feared.
    To locate the viewer let’s say first , something about the writer and director of this film. This is the Jacques-Régis du Cray, a french young liberal historian of the ralliement-turned-theologian in the Internet, GREC member who wrote under various pseudonyms in many places: Fideliter, Nouvelles de Christienté (Journal of the General House of the SSPX) and in several  forums as Fecit, Forum Catholique, Si scires, etc.. The Fathers of the Society responsible of La Sapiniere have "excommunicated" him by the public sin of liberalism, strongly detailing all his serious history.
    (http://www.lasapiniere.info/catalogue-des-etrangetes-de-m-jacques-regis-du-cray-suivi-du-decret-de-son-excommunication/#more-422).

    Going into this film, supposedly "inspired" by the biography written by Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, one might say that, beyond its docuмentary value of the testimony and the photographic archive rescued, it is a genre movie diplomat before than docuмentary. Why do we say this?

    The film is not intended to be shocking, not to enervate the modernists in Rome and to maintain a comfortable softness to the priests and faithful of the today’s  GREC-SSPX. His warmth dwarfs the magnitude of the mission of Bishop, because it reduces considerably the power of his enemies. It  sells us a light and blurred version of modernism, almost  no impersate. The drama of the Lord against the Pharisees, reduced to a Hallmark telefilm! The brave and battered soul of Archbishop Lefebvre sifted by the History Channel!

    Draws attention-but not surprising-the almost total absence in the narrative of the written works of Archbishop Lefebvre, his harsh statements towards modernism, including why he wanted to call the name of St. Pius X to his congregation. Also excluded evidence-except for a few, brief and nothing significant interventions Bishop Tissier de Mallerais-of bishops of the Fraternity. Here probably neglects Bishop Fellay not to appear openly as "biased" in a film that seems to get done in a neutral way, without deeply involved in the cause of Archbishop Lefebvre in the Society. But the truth is that abound testimonies from outside the Fraternity and not committed to it. Perhaps to keep the viewer has the feeling that the spirit in the SSPX  is as sect or "ghetto".

    By such things is not understood very well that modernism- we repeat, there in no mention of St. Pius X fight against this and the continuity that Archbishop Lefebvre gave to his heir in the battle-, it does not resort to any theologian of worth of the Fraternity to clearly explain the tragedy of Vatican II. Does not speak of the Church of the '50s and seems to hit in the '60s and the Council then something began to malfunction. The grave  problem of the New Mass  is not highlighted as it should be (not mentioned even those responsible for the same, led by  the Mason Bunigni) and, of course, not mentioned those words of Archbishop Lefebvre on liberalism of Paul VI or the antichrist of Rome. The only mention of Cardinal Ratzinger defines him as "a thin German theologian" (sic). Instead, the great fighter and friend of Bishop was Bishop de Castro Mayer barely mentioned in passing at the time of the Council, to be later devoured by forgetfulness.

    Of course, the one who sees this film will believe that there never was any crisis within the SSPX, it seems that everything has gone well since then. We're all friends!

    Fr. Schmidberger (today at  Zeitkofen Seminary and very desirous of a return to modernist  Rome) ends saying as optimistic as it could be Maximilian Krah: "The FSSPX  lasts, will continue to expand, will continue with the renewal of the Catholic priesthood and will work for the Christianization of this whole society dechristianized. That's what  Monsignor wanted ". Without any doubt, and so stood away from the liberalism of the Conciliar Church . About the future  he unambiguously  said one of the so many things that the film is careful not to quote: "I cannot say much about the future as mine is behind me. But if I live a bit further, and assuming that within a given time Roma makes  a call, and they want  to meet  us  again, resuming dialogue at that time would be me who would impose the conditions. Not accept any more being in the situation we encountered during the talks. This is over.

    I will raise the issue to doctrinal level: "Do you agree with all the great encyclicals of the Popes who preceded the Council? Do you agree with Quanta Cura of Pius IX, Immortale Dei, Libertas of Leo XIII, Pascendi of Pius X, Quas premiumsof  Pius XI, , Humani Generis of Pius XII? Are you in full communion with these Popes and their statements? Do you accept the anti-modernist oath yet? Are you in favor of the social reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ? "
    If you do not accept the doctrine of your predecessors, it is useless to talk. Until you agree to reform the Council considering the doctrine of these Popes who preceded you, no dialogue possible. It's useless. "(Interview given to Fideliter No. 66, 1988)

    In short, we can say that the most serious mistake and affront  committing this expensive film, is to replace the words  of Archbishop Lefebvre, who has been explicit enough in abundance in his writings, sermons, interviews and conferences, and  is replaced by just a few tepid comments of some priests and some people who have not known within the fraternity. We insist that even the bishops of the Society are entitled to speak in this film. Perhaps to not dwell on the issue of episcopal consecrations, issue still hurts the modernists?
    Since then, two legends close the show, to the relief of anesthetized viewer, highlighting the caring attitude of Benedict XVI to "reintegrate" the tradition to its rightful place in the Conciliar Church. All is well.

    "If the Society is of God, will go ahead, and if it is of God, it will disappear," says Monsignor's sister told it to the end of his life. Very true. Fraternity so today in the spirit of its founder, the SSPX continues with Bishop, priests and faithful of the Resistance who oppose the current liberalism GREC-SSPX whose authorities  have betrayed Archbishop Lefebvre,  are back on the road he performed.

    http://syllabus-errorum.blogspot.com.ar/2013/05/monsenor-lefebvre-un-obispo-censurado.html



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    "MONS. LEFEBVRE. A BISHOP IN THE STORM "
    A Jacques-Régis du Cray (2012) film

    The Internet has brought us the chance to see this much-heralded film about Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre. It has been a longtime reading or hearing laudatory words about this work, released with great fanfare in the Grand Rex theater in Paris on September 29, the last year.

    But unfortunately in our opinion, has come to confirm what we feared.
    To locate the viewer let’s say first , something about the writer and director of this film. This is the Jacques-Régis du Cray, a french young liberal historian of the ralliement-turned-theologian in the Internet, GREC member who wrote under various pseudonyms in many places: Fideliter, Nouvelles de Christienté (Journal of the General House of the SSPX) and in several  forums as Fecit, Forum Catholique, Si scires, etc.. The Fathers of the Society responsible of La Sapiniere have "excommunicated" him by the public sin of liberalism, strongly detailing all his serious history.
    (http://www.lasapiniere.info/catalogue-des-etrangetes-de-m-jacques-regis-du-cray-suivi-du-decret-de-son-excommunication/#more-422).

    Going into this film, supposedly "inspired" by the biography written by Bishop Tissier de Mallerais, one might say that, beyond its docuмentary value of the testimony and the photographic archive rescued, it is a genre movie diplomat before than docuмentary. Why do we say this?

    The film is not intended to be shocking, not to enervate the modernists in Rome and to maintain a comfortable softness to the priests and faithful of the today’s  GREC-SSPX. His warmth dwarfs the magnitude of the mission of Bishop, because it reduces considerably the power of his enemies. It  sells us a light and blurred version of modernism, almost  no impersate. The drama of the Lord against the Pharisees, reduced to a Hallmark telefilm! The brave and battered soul of Archbishop Lefebvre sifted by the History Channel!

    Draws attention-but not surprising-the almost total absence in the narrative of the written works of Archbishop Lefebvre, his harsh statements towards modernism, including why he wanted to call the name of St. Pius X to his congregation. Also excluded evidence-except for a few, brief and nothing significant interventions Bishop Tissier de Mallerais-of bishops of the Fraternity. Here probably neglects Bishop Fellay not to appear openly as "biased" in a film that seems to get done in a neutral way, without deeply involved in the cause of Archbishop Lefebvre in the Society. But the truth is that abound testimonies from outside the Fraternity and not committed to it. Perhaps to keep the viewer has the feeling that the spirit in the SSPX  is as sect or "ghetto".

    By such things is not understood very well that modernism- we repeat, there in no mention of St. Pius X fight against this and the continuity that Archbishop Lefebvre gave to his heir in the battle-, it does not resort to any theologian of worth of the Fraternity to clearly explain the tragedy of Vatican II. Does not speak of the Church of the '50s and seems to hit in the '60s and the Council then something began to malfunction. The grave  problem of the New Mass  is not highlighted as it should be (not mentioned even those responsible for the same, led by  the Mason Bunigni) and, of course, not mentioned those words of Archbishop Lefebvre on liberalism of Paul VI or the antichrist of Rome. The only mention of Cardinal Ratzinger defines him as "a thin German theologian" (sic). Instead, the great fighter and friend of Bishop was Bishop de Castro Mayer barely mentioned in passing at the time of the Council, to be later devoured by forgetfulness.

    Of course, the one who sees this film will believe that there never was any crisis within the SSPX, it seems that everything has gone well since then. We're all friends!


    Fr. Schmidberger (today at  Zeitkofen Seminary and very desirous of a return to modernist  Rome) ends saying as optimistic as it could be Maximilian Krah: "The FSSPX  lasts, will continue to expand, will continue with the renewal of the Catholic priesthood and will work for the Christianization of this whole society dechristianized. That's what  Monsignor wanted ". Without any doubt, and so stood away from the liberalism of the Conciliar Church . About the future  he unambiguously  said one of the so many things that the film is careful not to quote: "I cannot say much about the future as mine is behind me. But if I live a bit further, and assuming that within a given time Roma makes  a call, and they want  to meet  us  again, resuming dialogue at that time would be me who would impose the conditions. Not accept any more being in the situation we encountered during the talks. This is over.

    I will raise the issue to doctrinal level: "Do you agree with all the great encyclicals of the Popes who preceded the Council? Do you agree with Quanta Cura of Pius IX, Immortale Dei, Libertas of Leo XIII, Pascendi of Pius X, Quas premiumsof  Pius XI, , Humani Generis of Pius XII? Are you in full communion with these Popes and their statements? Do you accept the anti-modernist oath yet? Are you in favor of the social reign of Our Lord Jesus Christ? "
    If you do not accept the doctrine of your predecessors, it is useless to talk. Until you agree to reform the Council considering the doctrine of these Popes who preceded you, no dialogue possible. It's useless. "(Interview given to Fideliter No. 66, 1988)

    In short, we can say that the most serious mistake and affront  committing this expensive film, is to replace the words  of Archbishop Lefebvre, who has been explicit enough in abundance in his writings, sermons, interviews and conferences, and  is replaced by just a few tepid comments of some priests and some people who have not known within the fraternity. We insist that even the bishops of the Society are entitled to speak in this film. Perhaps to not dwell on the issue of episcopal consecrations, issue still hurts the modernists?
    Since then, two legends close the show, to the relief of anesthetized viewer, highlighting the caring attitude of Benedict XVI to "reintegrate" the tradition to its rightful place in the Conciliar Church. All is well.

    "If the Society is of God, will go ahead, and if it is of God, it will disappear," says Monsignor's sister told it to the end of his life. Very true. Fraternity so today in the spirit of its founder, the SSPX continues with Bishop, priests and faithful of the Resistance who oppose the current liberalism GREC-SSPX whose authorities  have betrayed Archbishop Lefebvre,  are back on the road he performed.

    http://syllabus-errorum.blogspot.com.ar/2013/05/monsenor-lefebvre-un-obispo-censurado.html



    I suppose this "defaming" of Archbishop Lefebvre, and what he really stood for, is not surprising...coming from an agenda of a new liberal-Menzingen!