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"Eleison Comments" by Mgr. Williamson - Issue CCLXVI
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  • Number CCLXVI (266)   18 August 2012

    DOCTRINE AGAIN

    The scorn of “doctrine” is an immense problem today. The “best” of Catholics in our 21st century pay lip-service to the importance of “doctrine”, but in their modern bones they feel instinctively that even Catholic doctrine is some kind of prison for their minds, and minds must not be imprisoned. In Washington, D.C., around the interior dome of the Jefferson Memorial, that quasi-religious temple of the United States’ champion of liberty, runs his quasi-religious quotation: I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man. Surely he had Catholic doctrine in mind, amongst others. Modern man’s quasi-religion excludes having any fixed doctrine.

    However, a sentence from the “Eleison Comments” of two weeks ago ( EC 263, July 28) gives a different angle on the nature and importance of “doctrine”. It ran: So long as Rome believes in its Conciliar doctrine, it is bound to use any such (“non-doctrinal”) agreement to pull the SSPX in the direction of the (Second Vatican) Council. In other words what drives Rome supposedly to discount “doctrine” and at all costs to conciliarize the SSPX is their own belief in their own Conciliar doctrine. As Traditional Catholic doctrine is - one hopes - the driving force of the SSPX, so Conciliar doctrine is the driving force of Rome. The two doctrines clash, but each of them is a driving force.

    In other words, “doctrine” is not just a set of ideas in a man’s head, or a mental prison. Whatever ideas a man chooses to hold in his head, his real doctrine is that set of ideas that drives his life. Now a man may change that set of ideas, but he cannot not have one. Here is how Aristotle put it: “If you want to philosophize, then you have to philosophize. If you don’t want to philosophize, you still have to philosophize. In any case a man has to philosophize.” Similarly, liberals may scorn any set of ideas as a tyranny, but to hold any set of ideas to be a tyranny is still a major idea, and it is the one idea that drives the lives of zillions of liberals today, and of all too many Catholics. These should know better, but all of us moderns have the worship of liberty in our bloodstream.

    Thus doctrine in its real sense is not just an imprisoning set of ideas, but that central notion of God, man and life that directs the life of every man alive. Even if a man is committing ѕυιcιdє, he is being driven by the idea that life is too miserable to be worth continuing. A notion of life centred on money may drive a man to become rich; on pleasure to become a rake; on recognition to become famous, and so on. But however a man centrally conceives life, that concept is his real doctrine.

    Thus conciliar Romans are driven by Vatican II as being their central notion to undo the SSPX that rejects Vatican II, and until they either succeed or change that central notion, they will continue to be driven to dissolve Archbishop Lefebvre’s SSPX. On the contrary the central drive of clergy and laity of the SSPX should be to get to Heaven, the idea being that Heaven and Hell exist, and Jesus Christ and his true Church provide the one and only sure way of getting to Heaven. This driving doctrine they know to be no fanciful invention of their own, and that is why they do not want it to be undermined or subverted or corrupted by the wretched neo-modernists of the Newchurch, driven by their false conciliar notion of God, man and life. The clash is total.

    Nor can it be avoided, as liberals dream it can. If falsehoods win, eventually even the stones of the street will cry out (Lk.XIX, 40). If Truth wins, still Satan will go on raising error after error, until the world ends. But “He that perseveres to the end will be saved”, says Our Lord (Mt.XXIV, 13).

    Kyrie eleison.




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    "Eleison Comments" by Mgr. Williamson - Issue CCLXVI
    « Reply #1 on: August 20, 2012, 11:07:19 AM »
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  • Before we can begin to understand the clash between Traditional Catholicism
    (which we would hope is the driving force behind the SSPX!) and the doctrine of
    Conciliar Rome,
    one must become familiar with how a "major idea" affects the
    thinking that goes on in the mind of man. We must become familiar with the very
    precepts of thought that have been established in the foundation of our own
    thinking, precepts that have a pervasive effect on ALL of our thinking: even on
    our thinking about what is going on in our own thinking!




    The Worship of Liberty                                




    Excerpt [emphasis added]:

    ... In other words, “doctrine” is not just a set of ideas in a man’s head, or a "mental prison."

    Whatever ideas a man chooses to hold in his head, his real doctrine is that set of ideas [he holds in his head] that drives his life.

    Now a man may change that set of ideas [his real doctrine that drives his life], but he cannot [choose to] not have [any set of ideas held in his head].

    [A man may exchange one set of ideas in his head for another set of ideas (as if it were like redecorating a room, or his entire house, with "new furniture") but he cannot choose to hold no real doctrine in his head that drives his life (as if it were like removing all the furniture from his house without replacing it). For to think with no real doctrine in his head that drives his life would be more like trying to run a computer program using a computer that has no operating system.]

    [Now, Aristotle lived thousands of years before the age of computers.]

    Here is how Aristotle [who lived long ago, before computers] put it: “If you want to philosophize, then you have to philosophize. If you don’t want to philosophize, you still have to philosophize. In any case a man has to philosophize.”

    Similarly, liberals may scorn any set of ideas as "a tyranny," but to hold any set of ideas to be "a tyranny" is still a major idea [a major idea is one's real doctrine that drives his life], and it is the one idea that drives the lives of zillions of liberals today, and of all too many Catholics.

    These [Catholics] should know better [than to succuмb willingly or by coalescence, to the error of scorning a particular set of ideas as "a tyranny"] but all of us moderns have the worship of liberty in our bloodstream.

    [And the worship of liberty is a major idea ~ a doctrine that drives one's life, whether one thinks of it as driving one's life or not; because the precept of liberty worship cannot do otherwise than to drive ones life, any more than an operating system can do otherwise than to run computer programs.]





    One thing common to all great thinkers is, you can quote them in pithy, profound
    sagacity.


    E.g.:

    Here is how Aristotle put it:

    “If you want to philosophize, then you have to philosophize.

    If you don’t want to philosophize, you still have to philosophize.

    In any case, a man has to philosophize.”





    Some things take time to settle in and start working in your mind, and this is one
    of those times.

    This particular and narrow subject, on which +Williamson so briefly touches for a
    few seconds in his EC this week, could be a major portion of an entire course in
    philosophy. It would be a part of a course in Epistemology. And I dare say that
    one single lecture could never suffice to communicate all the nuances of this topic
    to any modern audience unfamiliar with this subject. And furthermore, when
    human will is added to the mix, some of those present in the audience would
    be incapable of learning most, if not all, of the nuances. In no small degree,
    this is due to the fact that it is necessary to study all the preliminary courses of
    philosophy first, before getting into this one, such as Logic, Cosmology,
    Psychology (which has practically nothing to do with modern "psychology!), Ethics
    and Greek Philosophy, before studying Modern Philosophy. At that point, AND
    NOT BEFORE THAT POINT, the student would be prepared to begin studying
    Epistemology. IMHO this is what happened to the young Joseph Ratzinger, who
    was unable to learn the curriculum of his seminary courses on the Summa of
    St. Thomas!
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    "Eleison Comments" by Mgr. Williamson - Issue CCLXVI
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    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi