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"Eleison Comments" by Mgr. Williamson - Issue CCLVII - 257
« on: June 16, 2012, 01:10:21 PM »
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  • TODAY’S GALATIANS  

    “O you senseless Galatians,” cries out St Paul (Gal.III, 1), tearing a strip off one of his beloved flocks that was back-sliding, or wanting to go back from the New Testament to the Old Testament so as to satisfy Judaizers that would make them serve again “under the elements of the world” (IV, 3). It is remarkably easy to apply the Apostle’s tirade to the Traditional Catholics who are presently being tempted to slide back under Conciliar authorities so as to satisfy Nostra Aetate. But then it is the same world, flesh and devil, so with apologies to St Paul, let me adapt some verses from the Epistle to our own times:--

    “O you senseless Tradcats ! Who has bewitched you, that you should not follow the Tradition of Our Lord Jesus Christ, as it has been set before you ? This only would I learn of you: have you been leading Catholic lives for several years thanks to Vatican II, or thanks to Catholic Tradition ? Are you so foolish that having experienced the fruits of Tradition you now want to give it up by putting yourselves back under the Conciliar authorities ? Were all those fruits in vain (III, 1-4) ?

    “I am astonished that you are so soon drifting away from the line of Archbishop Lefebvre who called you into the grace of Christ, and instead towards the new gospel of Vatican II, which is no gospel at all, but these modernists are troubling you, and they want to pervert the Gospel of Christ. But if ourselves or an angel from Heaven were to try to tell you that the Council was not really that bad, throw him out and don’t listen ! Let me say it again: anyone pretending that the Archbishop would have been in favour of a deal today with Conciliar Rome should be thrown out ! Whose interests are we seeking ? Are we trying to please the Romans or to please God ? If these Romans liked me, I would be no servant of Christ ! (I, 6-10).

    “Before you came to Tradition you were serving under churchmen who were turning the Church over to the world. But now, after you found Tradition, how can you be wanting to go back with the world, under the Conciliar authorities (IV, 8,9) ? Am I become an enemy of the SSPX because I tell the truth ? Those misleading you pretend to be looking after your interests, but they want you to forget about the Archbishop so as to serve their own interests (IV, 16,17). Stand fast, and do not come under the sway of the Council again (V, 1). You were doing well. How can you now be letting yourselves turned away from the Truth ? Whoever is doing this to you is no servant of God ! I do believe you will come to your senses, but whoever is misleading you bears a grave responsibility. Do you think I would be so persecuted if I was preaching the world ? Whoever is corrupting Tradition needs the knife for more than just circuмcision (V, 7-12) !

    “Those wanting the SSPX to go through Vatican II B are merely trying to avoid being persecuted for the Cross of Christ. They want you to be worldly, keeping only the outward appearances of Tradition. They want back in with the Judaizers in Rome, but God forbid that I should want anything other than the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified to me and I to the world. Whoever follows Tradition in this way, peace be to them, and mercy (VI, 12-16).”

    Now read St Paul’s own Epistle. Let nobody pretend that the Word of God no longer applies !

    Kyrie eleison.
     
    © 2012 Richard N. Williamson. All Rights Reserved.
    "I think that Catholicism, that's as sane as people can get."  - Jordan Peterson


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    "Eleison Comments" by Mgr. Williamson - Issue CCLVII - 257
    « Reply #1 on: June 16, 2012, 01:14:35 PM »
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  • Oh, that's music to my ears. I love it.

    Thank you, Bishop Williamson, defender of the Faith!


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    « Reply #2 on: June 16, 2012, 01:18:17 PM »
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  • He pulled no punches!

    Awesome, accurate, and appropriate adaptation of St. Paul's Epistle.

    Less than a day after Bishop Tissier's ordinations sermon -- what a 1-2 punch!

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    « Reply #3 on: June 16, 2012, 01:29:20 PM »
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  • Fantastic, and courageous as always. The final struggle for the future of Tradition is at hand.

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  •  :applause: Tremendous EC, your Excellency! Deo Gratias.

    Quote from: +Williamson
    “I am astonished that you are so soon drifting away from the line of Archbishop Lefebvre who called you into the grace of Christ, and instead towards the new gospel of Vatican II, which is no gospel at all, but these modernists are troubling you, and they want to pervert the Gospel of Christ. But if ourselves or an angel from Heaven were to try to tell you that the Council was not really that bad, throw him out and don’t listen ! Let me say it again: anyone pretending that the Archbishop would have been in favour of a deal today with Conciliar Rome should be thrown out ! Whose interests are we seeking ? Are we trying to please the Romans or to please God ? If these Romans liked me, I would be no servant of Christ !"


    One can imagine your Excellency having these very words with the superior general... But to what avail?



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    « Reply #5 on: June 16, 2012, 01:33:12 PM »
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  • I can't express my gratitude into words so I'd just say THANK YOU +Williamson!!!
    Non Habemus Papam

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    « Reply #6 on: June 16, 2012, 01:40:04 PM »
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  • Godd Bless the Bishop!  We all need to pray for his perserverence!
    This was my reply to him.
    I suggest all of us should write to him.

    Dear Excellency!
    Thank you for your encouraging comments!
    Stay fast to tradition.
    I remember after Vatican 11 when the Canon of the mass was changed.  Then, I was a young woman of 27 with 5 children .   I was one of 4 people that left my neighborhood church!  
    Our Lord said "an enemy hast done this".  The enemies of God have truly infiltrated into the SSPX.  They chose it as their target, because its the largest traditional group in the world.  Outright persecution and  possibly death is awaiting all of us that don't capitulate to the church of the beast.
     
    Persevere, remembering your eternal reward!  I pray for you!

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    « Reply #7 on: June 16, 2012, 01:44:48 PM »
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  • +Bishop Williamson wrote: "“O you senseless Tradcats !"  

    Do the sheep hear the voice of the Shepherd? Oh, Yes!

    Thank You, Your Excellency!


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  • Bp. Williamson:  “Those wanting the SSPX to go through Vatican II B are merely trying to avoid being persecuted for the Cross of Christ. They want you to be worldly, keeping only the outward appearances of Tradition".

    In today's world, people, and unfortunately many Traditionalists included, do not wish the Cross of Our Lord.  They do all they can to avoid it at all costs.  And yes, there are many Trad. Catholics who are sadly going the way of the world.

    No Crown of Thorns = no Crown of glory.  

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    "Eleison Comments" by Mgr. Williamson - Issue CCLVII - 257
    « Reply #9 on: June 16, 2012, 02:41:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: Bishop Williamson
    TODAY’S GALATIANS  

    Do you think I would be so persecuted if I was preaching the world ? Whoever is corrupting Tradition needs the knife for more than just circuмcision (V, 7-12) !


    Ouch!

    Here is the quote:
    Galatians 5:12
    "I would they were even cut off, who trouble you."

    Bishop Williamson taught this chapter to us in the Seminary.
    This verse is basically saying "I wish they were made eunuchs, who trouble you."

    You know what a eunuch is -- a man that has been castrated.
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  • This ought to be read aloud to the backdrop of the Alleluia Chorus, by Handel

    PREPARE FOR A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                (Relax and Enjoy, I've done the dirty work for you, alleluia!) :

    Quote from: The Venerable Bishop Richard Williamson
    TODAY’S GALATIANS  

    “O you senseless Galatians,” cries out St Paul (Gal.III, 1), tearing a strip off one of his beloved flocks that was back-sliding, or wanting to go back from the New Testament to the Old Testament so as to satisfy Judaizers that would make them serve again “under the elements of the world” (IV, 3).

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    iv. 3 So we also, when we were children, were serving under the elements of the world.

    It is remarkably easy to apply the Apostle’s tirade to the Traditional Catholics who are presently being tempted to slide back under Conciliar authorities so as to satisfy Nostra Aetate. But then it is the same world, flesh and devil, so with apologies to St Paul, let me adapt some verses from the Epistle to our own times:--

    [/size]BTW: I have a hot line to St. Paul and he told me I can tell His Excellency,
    that it's just fine, and this is exactly what St. Paul had in mind when he wrote it
    in the first place!!  :chef:

    “O you senseless Tradcats ! Who has bewitched you, that you should not follow the Tradition of Our Lord Jesus Christ, as it has been set before you ? This only would I learn of you: have you been leading Catholic lives for several years thanks to Vatican II, or thanks to Catholic Tradition ? Are you so foolish that having experienced the fruits of Tradition you now want to give it up by putting yourselves back under the Conciliar authorities ? Were all those fruits in vain (III, 1-4) ?

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    iii. 1 O senseless Galatians, who hath bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been set forth, crucified among you?

    2 This only would I learn of you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?

    3 Are you so foolish, that, whereas you began in the Spirit, you would now be made perfect by the flesh?

    4 Have you suffered so great things in vain? If it be yet in vain.

    5 He therefore who giveth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you; doth he do it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of the faith?


    “I am astonished that you are so soon drifting away from the line of Archbishop Lefebvre who called you into the grace of Christ, and instead towards the new gospel of Vatican II, which is no gospel at all, but these modernists are troubling you, and they want to pervert the Gospel of Christ. But if ourselves or an angel from Heaven were to try to tell you that the Council was not really that bad, throw him out and don’t listen! Let me say it again: anyone pretending that the Archbishop would have been in favour of a deal today with Conciliar Rome should be thrown out! Whose interests are we seeking ? Are we trying to please the Romans or to please God ? If these Romans liked me, I would be no servant of Christ ! (I, 6-10).

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    i. 6 I wonder that you are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ, unto another gospel.

    7 Which is not another, only there are some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.

    8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.

    9 As we said before, so now I say again: If any one preach to you a gospel, besides that which you have received, let him be anathema.

    10 For do I now persuade men, or God? Or do I seek to please men? If I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.


    “Before you came to Tradition you were serving under churchmen who were turning the Church over to the world. But now, after you found Tradition, how can you be wanting to go back with the world, under the Conciliar authorities (IV, 8,9)?

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    iv. 8 But then indeed, not knowing God, you served them, who, by nature, are not gods.

    9 But now, after that you have known God, or rather are known by God: how turn you again to the weak and needy elements, which you desire to serve again?


    Am I become an enemy of the SSPX because I tell the truth ? Those misleading you pretend to be looking after your interests, but they want you to forget about the Archbishop so as to serve their own interests (IV, 16,17).

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    iv. 16 Am I then become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?

    17 They are zealous in your regard not well: but they would exclude you, that you might be zealous for them.


    Stand fast, and do not come under the sway of the Council again (V, 1).

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    v. 1 Stand fast, and be not held again under the yoke of bondage.


    You were doing well. How can you now be letting yourselves turned away from the Truth ? Whoever is doing this to you is no servant of God! I do believe you will come to your senses, but whoever is misleading you bears a grave responsibility. Do you think I would be so persecuted if I was preaching the world ? Whoever is corrupting Tradition needs the knife for more than just circuмcision (V, 7-12) !

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    v. 7 You did run well, who hath hindered you, that you should not obey the truth? 8 This persuasion is not from him that calleth you.

    9 A little leaven corrupteth the whole lump.

    10 I have confidence in you in the Lord: that you will not be of another mind: but he that troubleth you, shall bear the judgment, whosoever he be.

    11 And I, brethren, if I yet preach circuмcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? Then is the scandal of the cross made void.

    12 I would they were even cut off, who trouble you.


    “Those wanting the SSPX to go through Vatican II B are merely trying to avoid being persecuted for the Cross of Christ. They want you to be worldly, keeping only the outward appearances of Tradition. They want back in with the Judaizers in Rome, but God forbid that I should want anything other than the Cross of Our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified to me and I to the world. Whoever follows Tradition in this way, peace be to them, and mercy (VI, 12-16).”

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    vi. 12 For as many as desire to please in the flesh, they constrain you to be circuмcised, only that they may not suffer the persecution of the cross of Christ.

    13 For neither they themselves who are circuмcised, keep the law; but they will have you to be circuмcised, that they may glory in your flesh.

    14 But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ; by whom the world is crucified to me, and I to the world.

    15 For in Christ Jesus neither circuмcision availeth any thing, nor uncircuмcision, but a new creature.

    16 And whosoever shall follow this rule, peace on them, and mercy, and upon the Israel of God.


    Now read St Paul’s own Epistle.
    Let nobody pretend that the Word of God no longer applies !
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    Kyrie eleison.
     
    © 2012 Richard N. Williamson. All Rights Reserved.


    I am left aghast!

    I have no words for this experience.

    My mind is numb.

    I need a break.

    Good thing I have to go out now, and change my brake pads.

    Anyone walking by is going to wonder why
    I'm changing brake pads
    and muttering words from Galatians................. :scratchchin:

    They'll think I'm a Jesus Freak.

    So be it.

    Freak on, brother.    :pray:
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  • Another excellent installment of Eleison Comments.

    God Bless Bishop Williamson.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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  • Quote from: SpiritusSanctus
    Another excellent installment of Eleison Comments.

    God Bless Bishop Williamson.


    Once again, I find myself delerious in awe. How does he keep topping himself?

    What is this man made of? How far will he rise? What, if any are his limits?

    I hear people say they can't wait for the weekend, and I tell them that
    I can't wait for the next Dinoscopus, and they give me a blank look.

    It's pretty funny, really.               :laugh1:

    If they only knew how exciting Saturday can be ..............   :reading:
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    « Reply #13 on: June 16, 2012, 05:40:27 PM »
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  • That was awesome.  +Williamson and +Tissier give me hope.

    Oh to be a fly on the wall at the meeting in July.
    For it is written: I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be dispersed. Matthew 26:31

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    « Reply #14 on: June 16, 2012, 06:45:56 PM »
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    “I am astonished that you are so soon drifting away from the line of Archbishop Lefebvre who called you into the grace of Christ, and instead towards the new gospel of Vatican II, which is no gospel at all, but these modernists are troubling you, and they want to pervert the Gospel of Christ. But if ourselves or an angel from Heaven were to try to tell you that the Council was not really that bad, throw him out and don’t listen ! Let me say it again: anyone pretending that the Archbishop would have been in favour of a deal today with Conciliar Rome should be thrown out ! Whose interests are we seeking ? Are we trying to please the Romans or to please God ? If these Romans liked me, I would be no servant of Christ ! (I, 6-10).


    I read this article http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/ just posted and thought immidiately of H. E. + Williamson's above posting which I had just read. Another helpful clue? Thank you + Williamson, for being as open as (prudently) possible.  

    My next thought was the Rosary Crusade. Our Lady has answered it for the good of the Church! She has exaulted the humble bishops and humbled the exaulted...and brought the trators of Tradition to light.

    The love of God be your motivation, the will of God your guiding principle, the glory of God your goal.
    (St. Clement Mary Hofbauer)