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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => Topic started by: Kelley on October 05, 2012, 08:19:21 PM
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Number CCLXXIII (273) 6 October 2012
MORE AMMUNITION
Enjoying the privilege of having a variety of friends shooting at me from all directions, I cannot bear the thought of them running out of ammunition, so here is a collection of bullets and shells gathered from the battlefield. The comments came from priests, layfolk and Sisters, mainly upset by a certain episode in modern history being denied on Swedish TV in November of 2008. (And yet... and yet...) As Americans say, “Enjoy !”
“That bishop has a strong temperament with much prestige and authority, so he could not bear not being Number One in the Society of St Pius X. Wishing then to make himself a name in the history books, but realizing that at 68 years of age he would have no more chance of being elected Superior General, he detonated on Swedish TV the “Revisionist Bomb” in order to get attention and come out top dog. To gain influence he was willing to risk splitting the SSPX.”
“He decided on all-out provocation by the broadcast in order to throw a monkey-wrench into the Rome-SSPX talks which he disapproved of. But being in a subordinate position, only by such a scandal could he stop the dialogue and the agreement that might have come of it.”
“He loves provoking because he is an infiltrator, a former Anglican who is still basically hostile to the Catholic Church. Any Rome-SSPX agreement he wanted to block, because it would be too favourable to the SSPX, i.e. to the Catholic Church.”
“He is an illuminated supernaturalist, a conspiracy nut, obsessed with the Jєωιѕн peril. He sees the Apocalypse coming tomorrow. Neither he nor Revisionism are serious.”
“He has natural qualities that make him worldly and ambitious. He is used to everybody paying him homage. He used to have influence over many people, and he was treated like a little god when he was still travelling. However, because of his personal qualities he is proud and jealous of Bishop Fellay, so out of envy and resentment he let loose on Swedish TV.”
“Actually, long before the Swedish affair he was too political and too independent of the rest of the SSPX, whose spirit he did not entirely share. In 2004 he publicly attacked the leadership of the SSPX for its jansenizing spirit and its supernaturalism. In reality he was merely settling personal accounts, as churchmen are liable to do.”
“His originality goes with a complete lack of sense of responsibility, which is why he rode that anti-semitic hobby-horse of his in public without a thought for the harm he might do to Tradition. In fact he was manipulated by Fascists and Neo-pagans, or at least he was exploited by them. He was not out for personal power on that occasion, but he is unpredictable, and he is not to be trusted.”
And all these things are being said about me ! I just love the attention !
Kyrie eleison.
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Who is the author supposed to be?
It looks like they are preparing for a split with character assassination.
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Oh and this is why I love the mighty +Williamson. He's in the trenches, fighting that good fight! :nunchaku:
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Evidently, it is a collection of sentiments from priests, layfolk, and Sisters...mainly regarding the Swedish Television interview...boy, there are sure are a lot of rotten people in the world, and some of the worst are so called "religious"....+Williamson has had to endure some of the most hateful and vile treatment I have ever witnessed...one brother bishop participating while the two other brother bishops stood silently by.
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Evidently, it is a collection of sentiments from priests, layfolk, and Sisters...mainly regarding the Swedish Television interview...boy, there are sure are a lot of rotten people in the world, and some of the worst are so called "religious"....+Williamson has had to endure some of the most hateful and vile treatment I have ever witnessed...one brother bishop participating while the two other brother bishops stood silently by.
Yes, it is perfidy on the part of some, weakness on the part of others.
Bishop Williamson had been making revisionist statements for nearly 20 years, and the SSPX leadership was just humoring him all this time?
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Nasty, liberal French sleazebags, effete anglos and snotty, unintelligent females.
Ethelred can tell us about the Germans.
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These people accusing Bishop Williamson could and would say the same things about the Archbishop if Bishop Fellay were in the same position relative to themselves as he is now - ie their cult leader.
If they don't care about the Jєωs trying to corrupt the Catholic Faith, not to mention wreaking havoc on society and manipulating governments to start wars and attack the moral order, then are turncoats. They are liberals, they are enemies of the Catholic religion.
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I am interested in the point about +Williamson "attacking" the SSPX leadership in 2004. Does anyone have anymore information and detail of this if it did happen?
God bless Bishop Williamson!
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I am interested in the point about +Williamson "attacking" the SSPX leadership in 2004. Does anyone have anymore information and detail of this if it did happen?
God bless Bishop Williamson!
Yeah, the Jansenism charge was particularly interesting.
There's a "we are Church" attitude, especially among some of the
French members of the SSPX.
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There's a "we are Church" attitude, especially among some of the French members of the SSPX.[/color]
I don't know if it's Jansenist per se, but the French, in general, seem to be the most obsessed with being controlling.
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I've met the other three SSPX bishops, but have not had the honor of meeting H.E. Bishop Williamson. What a great warrior he is . . . and with a sense of humor to boot!!! This is a man who can take a punch--in fact, several--and laugh it all off. Thin-skinned he definitely is not! God bless him!!!
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I've met the other three SSPX bishops, but have not had the honor of meeting H.E. Bishop Williamson. What a great warrior he is . . . and with a sense of humor to boot!!! This is a man who can take a punch--in fact, several--and laugh it all off. Thin-skinned he definitely is not! God bless him!!!
I would recommend that you owe it to yourself to look for the next opportunity
to meet him. You will be pleasantly surprised. He came to an independent
chapel in my area many years ago, when the SSPX was still a reasonable image
of what it had been under ABL. He gave a sermon on the occasion of
confirmations that was without question the most powerful sermon I had ever
heard in my life. When he was through with that, I had then lived to hear
what a real bishop sounds like. And after Mass he posed for photographs with
everyone who waited in line, which were quite a few. He was very easy to
talk to. And always a lively sense of humor. I have to wonder how many such
appearances he has made over the years. He just made another one in Brazil
a few weeks ago. How fortunate all those people all over the world have been
to have his personal attention and counsel.
I just realized that I'm having an emotional reaction to the calumnies and
pretentious drivel his critics have said about him in the quotes he provides.
Someone should write his biography before it's too hard to collect the stories.
I'm sure he would make himself available for someone who is qualified.
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Yeah, the Jansenism charge was particularly interesting.
There's a "we are Church" attitude, especially among some of the
French members of the SSPX.
I have heard many SSPX priests say that the SSPX is "the Guardian of the Faith".
Who appointed them for this role? Pride goes before the fall.
Now that the cracks of resistence are starting to show, the "Guardians" are showing true cult tactics to control the Sheep. Obey.......or be expelled.
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I would recommend that you owe it to yourself to look for the next opportunity
to meet him. You will be pleasantly surprised. He came to an independent
chapel in my area many years ago, when the SSPX was still a reasonable image
of what it had been under ABL. He gave a sermon on the occasion of
confirmations that was without question the most powerful sermon I had ever
heard in my life. When he was through with that, I had then lived to hear
what a real bishop sounds like. And after Mass he posed for photographs with
everyone who waited in line, which were quite a few. He was very easy to
talk to. And always a lively sense of humor. I have to wonder how many such
appearances he has made over the years. He just made another one in Brazil
a few weeks ago. How fortunate all those people all over the world have been
to have his personal attention and counsel.
I just realized that I'm having an emotional reaction to the calumnies and
pretentious drivel his critics have said about him in the quotes he provides.
Someone should write his biography before it's too hard to collect the stories.
I'm sure he would make himself available for someone who is qualified.
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Thank you for that wise advice, Neil Obstat. I will definitely keep a lookout for him! . . . With what clarity Bishop Williamson speaks and writes. The intellectual/spiritual heavy-weight that he is, I have not once walked away confused or scratching my head after listening to his many recorded lectures or reading his brilliant pieces. A photo-op one day a definite plus!
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Triumph Communications is a great source for Bsp Williamson conferences (Audio)...
"The Faith In Crisis Series" is outstanding!
http://www.triumphcommunications.net/rwilliamson.html
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and in another forty years, will we be listening to audios of BW.... those with ears to hear.. or will we all be deaf, by then....
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Evidently, it is a collection of sentiments from priests, layfolk, and Sisters...mainly regarding the Swedish Television interview...boy, there are sure are a lot of rotten people in the world, and some of the worst are so called "religious"....+Williamson has had to endure some of the most hateful and vile treatment I have ever witnessed...one brother bishop participating while the two other brother bishops stood silently by.
Yes, it is perfidy on the part of some, weakness on the part of others.
Bishop Williamson had been making revisionist statements for nearly 20 years, and the SSPX leadership was just humoring him all this time?
People are lemmings. If the superiors of the SSPX had arisen to defend H.E.
at the time, people would have been more respectful. But since they did not,
the lemmings followed them and criticized him. Something had changed in
the leadership, something behind the scenes. There was something in the
works that required a pro-Zionist reaction to what +W said to that journalist.
We may never know what it was in this life.
+Williamson answers all his mail. I try to imagine what it's like for him to
open it every day. It must be like running the gauntlet of torture. Some
days, most of what he has to read is criticism and insults. And when he
comes across a word of appreciation or a little handmade card from a child, it
must make it all worthwhile. But he's not so proud or self-centered to think of
telling us about this. He does not want to draw attention to himself.
Try it and see...........
He answers his mail. Have your children in home schooling make greeting
cards by hand, using cut-outs of construction paper or gift wrap that you're
going to throw away, pieces of ribbon and shiny stars, little pictures of angels
from magazines that were going to be recycled. Put a little humor in, like cut
out pictures of lemmings and write, "people are lemmings" under these glued-
on figures. Give them the assignment of making a card for Bishop Williamson
to let him know we appreciate his faithfulness to the principles of Archbishop
Lefebvre, and for passing on what he has received from him. Things like
that. He will reply, and tell you how it is nice to be appreciated.
But he will sleep better at night and he will have better health because your
children made him a greeting card. And this you might not know for sure......
................ in this life, that is ............................
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Solzhenitsyn said that in the USSR, because the media was controlled by one central authority, the people could easily recognize the lies. However, in the West, because everyone can lie, it is very difficult for the people to know the truth. He said that in the West, one person would wrote something bad about his writings, without ever having read the book, and then everyone else quoted the lie, and added their own further lies.
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Solzhenitsyn said that in the USSR, because the media was controlled by one central authority, the people could easily recognize the lies. However, in the West, because everyone can lie, it is very difficult for the people to know the truth. He said that in the West, one person would wrote something bad about his writings, without ever having read the book, and then everyone else quoted the lie, and added their own further lies.
One of the criteria for being hired as a Sociology professor is to demonstrate
your ability to denounce Solzhenitsyn first as a person (ad hominems)
and then in his writings, but to downplay the writings so as to discourage the
students from reading him. Try to find a sociology graduate who ever read the
works of Solzhenitsyn. It seems you have to hold contempt for his very name
before you can get a degree in that nonsense major. Oh, they will SAY they
read him, but when you ask more specifically, you'll find that what they read is
actually someone else writing ABOUT him, and paraphrasing his words, in order
to ridicule him.
It's one of the errors of Russia, and it's being used against +Williamson!
His ECs are his own private battle against the calumnies. I'm always amused to
find those who are disrespectful of H.E. are not familiar with Dinoscopus. And
when I offer them an email sample copy or even a print-out of a recent one,
they are not interested. It's the anti-Solzhenitsyn complex at work in our time!
They tried to do the same thing with Cardinal Mindzenty but he was much too
popular already. They had to wait for him to die. And his memory, too. But his
memory still lives on, in the hearts and minds of his countrymen, and in the hearts
and minds of those who are willing to learn.
These are great men for homeschoolers to study!
Solzhenitsyn
Mindzenty
Williamson
Cure d'Ars
Pope St. Pius X
Padre Pio
The kids going through public schools will not have heard a thing about them.
I tried to talk to some Coptic Orthodox about how Padre Pio appeared to a
pilot of an Allied bomber who was going to drop his bomb before landing, and
he was over Pietrelcina at the time. They did not believe it. Then I told them
that Padre Pio had the stigmata, the only priest in the history of the Church
to have it, and they refused to believe that, too. They said, "No one but Jesus
Christ ever had those marks." But then they told me about a Christian leader
who demonstrated to the Moselms that his God was true, by making a mountain
rise up off the ground, so the sun could be seen underneath it. And the
mountain went up, and slammed down, then went up, and down, and up and
down, and the Moslems cried out to "Make it Stop!!!" So I didn't give them
a hard time about that, but no matter. They still refused to accept my
description of Padre Pio. Very interesting.
I was an outsider. I was in their territory. They wanted me to accept their
doctrine and they refused to listen to my testimony. So +Fellay thinks he's
going to waltz into NewRome and have them listen to what he has to say???
The Coptic Orthodox have beautiful pictures and artwork. They have delicious
food and a very pleasant manner. But they want nothing to do with Catholic
doctrine, if it isn't already part of their own.
Bishop Williamson said to Cardinal Hoyos, "Your peanuts are nice, your
crackers are nice, you Cognac is nice, but we have two different religions."
(Quoted by Fr. Chazal here (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=20858&f=19&min=9&num=1))
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Yeah, the Jansenism charge was particularly interesting.
There's a "we are Church" attitude, especially among some of the
French members of the SSPX.
I have heard many SSPX priests say that the SSPX is "the Guardian of the Faith".
Who appointed them for this role? Pride goes before the fall.
Now that the cracks of resistence are starting to show, the "Guardians" are showing true cult tactics to control the Sheep. Obey.......or be expelled.
And in times to come, we may see a true "silencing of the lambs".
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He answers his mail. Have your children in home schooling make greeting
cards by hand, using cut-outs of construction paper or gift wrap that you're
going to throw away, pieces of ribbon and shiny stars, little pictures of angels
from magazines that were going to be recycled. Put a little humor in, like cut
out pictures of lemmings and write, "people are lemmings" under these glued-
on figures. Give them the assignment of making a card for Bishop Williamson
to let him know we appreciate his faithfulness to the principles of Archbishop
Lefebvre, and for passing on what he has received from him. Things like
that. He will reply, and tell you how it is nice to be appreciated.
Absolutely. I correspond with His Excellency on a regular basis by phone and mail, and His Grace has always written back....always!!! Let us inundate him more than ever with Christmas cards this year!
Although it is difficult for most of us in North America to get extra time off for travel, if you can make it to the Bristol conference, it is worth the trip. I am thankful to my two colleagues who with myself were the first NA triumvirate to attend the first ever conference held at Bristol several years back. (Speaking humbly, it was our suggestion to His Grace to hold such conferences, and it is heartening to see it become so successful.)
Make sure you stop at Bath too. Loverly historical town.