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Author Topic: 'Cardinal' R. Sarah, Feb 22, 2026, Preserving UNITY, Obedience à la Padre Pio  (Read 284 times)

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Offline Twice dyed

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  I believe we Catholics have a day to day challenge. Jesus-Christ's Church must be ONE. We are told that the Catholic Church is to be found where the Traditional Teachings, Sacraments are.  The sobering reality is that the Trad movement "Institutions / groups (for lack of a better word), be they monasteries, convents, societies, "Exsurge Domine" types etc will have solid Teaching and Sacraments, and because the Novus Ordo church has lost the Faith, absent is the Principle of UNITY imo.

    Hours before Our Lord was crucified, he spoke heavily about Unity, that his apostles would be One- usually called the "Great Discourse".  St. John 17:11 "And I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I am coming to thee. Holy Father, keep in thy name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one even as we are."

  So what is our role to keep the flame of Unity burning?  Where is our PRINCIPLE of Unity, in realtime?  Is there an undercurrent that is zooming in on Unity amongst Trads? Who could "officially" foster Unity?

    I bring this up because here in Canada, we have a handful of "Resistants", but every year there is another split, arguments.
Unity doesn't have a priority; individuals going in reverse.

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Of course I don't agree with much of what he says, but a quote here from 'Cardinal' R. Sarah, Feb 22, 2026:
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  " Thus, we too can affirm that the best way to defend the faith, Tradition, and the authentic liturgy will always be to follow the obedient Christ. Christ will never command us to break the unity of the Church. As Saint John Chrysostom says: “The unity of the Church, preserved by the Holy Spirit, is more precious than all the riches of this world.”

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...Re: Padre Pio who was unjustly told that he could no longer hear confession for 12? years, and obeyed; that type of obedience didn't involve a danger to the Universal Church - it was a personal issue.  But when Institutions are asked to obey and accept false doctrines/ sacraments at the peril of losing thousands of souls in their care, they must take the stand of Arch Marcel Lefebvre = Faith first, and a firm refusal towards anything Modernist or Liberal.

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...Re: Padre Pio who was unjustly told that he could no longer hear confession for 12? years, and obeyed; that type of obedience didn't involve a danger to the Universal Church - it was a personal issue.  But when Institutions are asked to obey and accept false doctrines/ sacraments at the peril of losing thousands of souls in their care, they must take the stand of Arch Marcel Lefebvre = Faith first, and a firm refusal towards anything Modernist or Liberal.

I agree that Padre Pio's obedience didn't involve a danger to the Universal Church. Thus, IMO, it's wrong for Cardinal Sarah to use it as an example of why Catholics should always obey the Pope. +Sarah doesn't say anything about the Modernist takeover and occupation of the Church. It's sad to see his what he writes, but he won't be the only one in the conciliar church who thinks this way. 


Offline Twice dyed

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   Yes, Many N.Ordos fit in that category:"Be obedient to the Pope, don't attack Vatican II, join the Ecuмenical zoo. I wonder if the German bishops are still against the SSPX joining the N.O.Rome? 
Anyway, Pope Leo XIV is getting some advice to permit SSPX consecrations July 1. At least two prelates. I suspect that at the last moment the Pope will give his approval. 

   Someone pointed out that if newRome allows Chinese K0mmunists to nominate bishops in China, why couldn't the Pope grant the same privilege to FR.Pagliarani? SSPX isn't tearing crucifix' down from churches etc. as K0mmies do routinely out there. Christians are persecuted in China, pouring boiling water down the throats of non-conforming Christians...to quiet them...Double standard?  

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There is a law called non-contradiction.

The Catholic Church teaches to flee from heretics, condemn their errors, do not pray or worship with them. 
Just because the condemned, modernist, heretics have infiltrated and taken over the physical Catholic structures, does not give them power and authority, nor are they to be obeyed. The very fact that these false prophets approve the communist prelates, should encourage true Catholics to avoid them and not seek their approval.

  Who could "officially" foster Unity?

    I bring this up because here in Canada, we have a handful of "Resistants", but every year there is another split, arguments.
Unity doesn't have a priority; individuals going in reverse.
The principle of unity among the SSPX-Resistance can only be the line of Archbishop Lefebvre, just as it was for the SSPX of old. After all, why did we resist the new SSPX? Precisely because of their departure from this line. It is the bishops who have the moral authority who must lead the efforts to keep us together around this principle. Any other principle will necessarily end up in as many divisions as there are legitimate (and otherwise!) opinions.

As Bishop Thomas Aquinas said (printed in Eleison Comments Number 865 Feb 10, 2024):

Bishop Fellay disorganized Tradition, walked away from Archbishop Lefebvre's line and made others also depart from it. To resist this departure was the reason for the Resistance coming into existence. We want to follow Archbishop Lefebvre in everything, in doctrine and also in practical solutions, because, as Aristotle and St. Thomas teach, the examples of the ancients serve as principles of action. We follow Mgr. Lefebvre in doctrine and action, especially in relation to modernist Rome, and we do this to be faithful to Eternal Rome, teacher of truth and holiness.