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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Confession
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2024, 01:12:59 PM »
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Since you cannot possibly know the status of every FSSP priest, you cannot make a blanket statement for everyone.
What are you talking about?  The FSSP openly admits to using the new rites of ordination, thus MOST of their priests are doubtful (with the exception of the small number who came from the sspx, if they are still alive).

This is Traditionalism 101 -- new rites are doubtful.
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Offline Crayolcold

Re: Confession
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2024, 01:25:33 PM »
Our Lady of Sorrows is the SSPX parish in Phoenix. I would recommend going to a priest there. Fr.’s Pederson, McFarland, Hogan, and Fabula are some of my favorite confessors. 

They are all certainly validly ordained (I really don’t know if you can say that for the CMRI priests that people are recommending here, and you definitely can’t say that for FSSP).
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Offline Seraphina

Re: Confession
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2024, 01:56:30 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 24, 2024, 01:12:59 PM
What are you talking about?  The FSSP openly admits to using the new rites of ordination, thus MOST of their priests are doubtful (with the exception of the small number who came from the sspx, if they are still alive).

This is Traditionalism 101 -- new rites are doubtful.
There ARE FSSP priests who are conditionally ordained.  I know of two.  It’s not the majority, but if there are two, there are probably more.  I’ve heard of a priest ordained by ICKSP who left and joined FSSP.  I can’t absolutely confirm that.  
Pax, your strongest opinion is no more “ex cathedra” than Lad’s.  
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Confession
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2024, 02:09:03 PM »
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There ARE FSSP priests who are conditionally ordained.
If they are conditionally ordained in the new rite, they are still doubtful.

If they are conditionally ordained in the OLD rite, by a bishop from the NEW rite, they are still doubtful.


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Pax, your strongest opinion is no more “ex cathedra” than Lad’s. 
It's not an opinion; it's based on facts.  Every major Traditionalist group (not including the FSSP, which isn't traditional), says that the new rites of ordination/consecration are doubtful.  Period.

The 'ex cathedra'/authority on what to do, in the face of doubtful sacraments, comes from Canon Law, not me, and not Ladislaus.  Canon Law says it is a mortal sin to say, attend or support doubtful sacraments...except in danger of death.

Don't argue with me, argue with Canon Law.
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Offline Seraphina

Re: Confession
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2024, 03:08:34 PM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on May 24, 2024, 02:09:03 PM
If they are conditionally ordained in the new rite, they are still doubtful.

If they are conditionally ordained in the OLD rite, by a bishop from the NEW rite, they are still doubtful.

It's not an opinion; it's based on facts.  Every major Traditionalist group (not including the FSSP, which isn't traditional), says that the new rites of ordination/consecration are doubtful.  Period.

The 'ex cathedra'/authority on what to do, in the face of doubtful sacraments, comes from Canon Law, not me, and not Ladislaus.  Canon Law says it is a mortal sin to say, attend or support doubtful sacraments...except in danger of death.

Don't argue with me, argue with Canon Law.
They’re neither.  #1 Conditionally ordained by Bp. W. in late 2012.  He left and returned to FSSP.
#2 the same, only he went independent and kind of disappeared.

By what authority can we be certain you correctly interpret and apply Canon Law?  
If you claim it’s self-evident, it’s still based on you.  Every Protestant says as much about the Scriptures.  
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