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Traditional Catholic Faith => SSPX Resistance News => SSPX Resistance Chapels => Topic started by: SeanJohnson on February 07, 2013, 06:57:56 AM
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A friend of mine came up with this list.
Thought it might be helpful for planning purposes at other resistance chapels:
Vestments Supplies
Amice Wine
Alb (tall, medium, short) Spring Water
Cincture Priests Host
Hosts for Communion of the Faithful
4 main colors (+black and Rose) Charcoal
Chasuble Incense
Maniple Aluminum Foil (for thurible)
Stole Coffee Can (for spent charcoal)
Related to above Altar Boy
Tabernacle Veil Cassock
Chalice Veil Surplice
Burse
Longer Term
Altar Palms
Relics Ashes (or make from palms)
Altar Cloths Candle Lighter
Purificators Wax tapers for Candle Lighter
Lavabo Towel Thurible
Corporals Tongs
Altar Cards (3) Lighter
Six Candlesticks (start with 2) Baptism Candles
Candles (Bleached/Unbleached) Incense Boat
Missale Romanum Incense Spoon
Chalice Processional Cruxifix
Chalice Veil (listed above) Rite of Marriage
Chalice Paten Rite of Baptism
Ciborium Rite of Funerals
Paten for Communion Dalmatics
Paten Carrying Case Vesting prayers
Water and Wine Cruets Votive Candles
Lavabo Bowl Breviary
Bells Martyrology
2 Kneelers (for communion) Ritual
Bowl for washing of the fingers (on altar)
Card for Prayers After Low Mass
Card for Benediction Additional:
Card for Altar Server (untrained) Cope
Humeral Veil
More permanent Thurible Stand
Communion Rail Monstrance
Altar Lunette (Holds host in Monstrance)
Tabernacle Lunette holder (for in tabernacle)
Pews Aspergellum (water sprinkler)
Holy Water Fonts Tabernacle
Organ Baptismal Shell for pouring water
Statues Oil Stocks
Pyx
Torches (2, 4 or 6)
Processional Candlesticks
Really longer term
Advent Wreath
Advent Candles
Easter Candle
Long thin candles for Blessing Throats
Congregation Candles (with Wax catchers)
Missal Booklets for visitors
Marriage Rite for Faithful
Funeral Rite for Faithful
Super Long-term
Rite of Ordination
Bowls and Towels for washing of the "Apostles" feet on Holy Thursday
Dalmatic (all liturgical colors)
Deacon's stole
Deacon's Maniple
Ash Holders
Sub-deacon vestments (I think it's a tunicle? & maniple)
Vesting Prayer Card
Extra Veils
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Note:
There are some formatting issues in the OP because my friend sent me the list in Excel format.
I copied/pasted, but a few items are jumbled together.
I trust in your intelligence to spot where this has occurred.
Pax tecuŠ¼,
Seraphim
PS: Matthew, not sure if you can edit the OP to have just one item per line, but if so, it would probably be helpful. When I try to do it using the edit function, I see it in the spreadsheet format. Sorry.
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A friend of mine came up with this list.
Thought it might be helpful for planning purposes at other resistance chapels:
Note: There are some formatting issues in the OP because my friend sent me the list in Excel format.
PS: Matthew, not sure if you can edit the OP to have just one item per line, but if so, it would probably be helpful. When I try to do it using the edit function, I see it in the spreadsheet format. Sorry.
I get a hunch Matthew won't be thrilled with your request, Seraphim.
The CI platform does not support spreadsheet formatting. You have to edit your
post to the language of this forum or it won't make any sense.
Is this what you had in mind, or something like it?
Vestments:
Amice
Alb (tall, medium, short)
Cincture
4 main colors (+black and Rose)
Chasuble
Maniple
Related to above
Cassock
Surplice
Supplies:
Wine
Spring Water
Priests Host
Hosts for Communion of the Faithful
Charcoal
Coffee Can (for spent charcoal)
Incense
Aluminum Foil (for thurible)
Altar Boy
Tabernacle Veil
Chalice Veil
Burse
Longer Term:
Altar
Palms
Relics
Ashes (or make from palms)
Altar Cloths
Candle Lighter
Purificators
Wax tapers for Candle Lighter
Lavabo Towel
Thurible
Corporals
Tongs
Altar Cards (3)
Lighter
Six Candlesticks (start with 2)
Baptism Candles
Candles (Bleached/Unbleached)
Incense Boat
Missale Romanum
Incense Spoon
Chalice
Processional Cruxifix
Chalice Veil (listed above)
Chalice Paten
Ciborium
Paten for Communion
Dalmatics
Paten Carrying Case
Water and Wine Cruets
Votive Candles
Lavabo Bowl
Breviary
Bells
2 Kneelers (for communion)
Rite of Marriage
Rite of Baptism
Rite of Funerals
Vesting prayers
Martyrology
Ritual:
Bowl for washing of the fingers (on altar)
Card for Prayers After Low Mass
Card for Benediction
Additional:
Card for Altar Server (untrained)
Cope
Humeral Veil
More permanent:
Communion Rail
Altar
Tabernacle
Pews
Holy Water Fonts
Organ
Tabernacle
Statues
Thurible Stand
Monstrance
Lunette (Holds host in Monstrance)
Lunette holder (for in tabernacle)
Aspergellum (water sprinkler)
Baptismal Shell for pouring water
Oil Stocks [stock market?!]
Pyx
Torches (2, 4 or 6)
Processional Candlesticks
Really longer term:
Advent Wreath
Advent Candles
Easter Candle
Long thin candles for Blessing Throats
Congregation Candles (with Wax catchers)
Missal Booklets for visitors
Marriage Rite for Faithful
Funeral Rite for Faithful
Super Long-term:
Rite of Ordination
Bowls and Towels for washing of the "Apostles" feet on Holy Thursday
Dalmatic (all liturgical colors)
Deacon's stole
Deacon's Maniple
Ash Holders
Sub-deacon vestments (I think it's a tunicle? & maniple)
Vesting Prayer Card
Extra Veils
Vestments Supplies
Amice Wine
Alb (tall, medium, short) Spring Water
Cincture Priests Host
Hosts for Communion of the Faithful
4 main colors (+black and Rose) Charcoal
Chasuble Incense
Maniple Aluminum Foil (for thurible)
Stole Coffee Can (for spent charcoal)
Related to above Altar Boy
Tabernacle Veil Cassock
Chalice Veil Surplice
Burse
Longer Term
Altar Palms
Relics Ashes (or make from palms)
Altar Cloths Candle Lighter
Purificators Wax tapers for Candle Lighter
Lavabo Towel Thurible
Corporals Tongs
Altar Cards (3) Lighter
Six Candlesticks (start with 2) Baptism Candles
Candles (Bleached/Unbleached) Incense Boat
Missale Romanum Incense Spoon
Chalice Processional Cruxifix
Chalice Veil (listed above) Rite of Marriage
Chalice Paten Rite of Baptism
Ciborium Rite of Funerals
Paten for Communion Dalmatics
Paten Carrying Case Vesting prayers
Water and Wine Cruets Votive Candles
Lavabo Bowl Breviary
Bells Martyrology
2 Kneelers (for communion) Ritual
Bowl for washing of the fingers (on altar)
Card for Prayers After Low Mass
Card for Benediction Additional:
Card for Altar Server (untrained) Cope
Humeral Veil
More permanent Thurible Stand
Communion Rail Monstrance
Altar Lunette (Holds host in Monstrance)
Tabernacle Lunette holder (for in tabernacle)
Pews Aspergellum (water sprinkler)
Holy Water Fonts Tabernacle
Organ Baptismal Shell for pouring water
Statues Oil Stocks
Pyx
Torches (2, 4 or 6)
Processional Candlesticks
Really longer term
Advent Wreath
Advent Candles
Easter Candle
Long thin candles for Blessing Throats
Congregation Candles (with Wax catchers)
Missal Booklets for visitors
Marriage Rite for Faithful
Funeral Rite for Faithful
Super Long-term
Rite of Ordination
Bowls and Towels for washing of the "Apostles" feet on Holy Thursday
Dalmatic (all liturgical colors)
Deacon's stole
Deacon's Maniple
Ash Holders
Sub-deacon vestments (I think it's a tunicle? & maniple)
Vesting Prayer Card
Extra Veils
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Thanks!
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While it's good to know that you eventually need a Baptistery, large statues, a marble altar, stain glass windows (etc), those things are "when I win the lottery" pipe dreams for 100% of Resistance chapels, and probably will be for the next 10 years or so.
What I'm more interested in is the stuff you need to have a normal-looking Mass at your Resistance chapel.
It's easy to put cinder blocks under a regular wooden, full-size conference table and drape it with bedsheets, etc. so you can't see the ugly frame. With proper altar linens on top, and a painted wooden board propped up behind it (where you attach a good-sized crucifix), your makeshift altar can look quite nice!
But other things would really be helpful, even in the short term. For example, Father had to hand a corporal to the altar server to use for a paten at our Mass here. I wish I had known that their Mass kit didn't include a server paten.
I have no idea what kind of cruets they normally use, since I bought some before they got here. Did you know that 10 oz. is the perfect size? I got lucky. Nowhere does anyone talk about details like that. Also, on Amazon.com you need to buy them in packs of 6 for a total cost of $28.
They only had 1 serving of Mass wine left. How does one acquire Mass wine? Are there any regulations on what kind of grape wine is used? Can the wine have sulfites, or does it have to be sulfite-free? Is there a preferred brand?
They also don't have regular Mass candles. They used a couple small red votive candles on the altar -- it didn't look very normal. Brass candlesticks are pretty cheap, but what size are the candles, and what type do they have to be? I think it's 51% beeswax. But what diameter are they usually? What is a good source for them?
For Ashes, they needed a bowl, towel, cake of soap, and water to clean up afterwards. They used water from the water cruet, since it was large enough. I wish I had thought of some of these things beforehand.
They need a missal stand. Just a piece of wood that props the missal up -- it can't be very expensive. But we had to use a throw pillow since we didn't have one.
Stations of the Cross -- we printed out some black & white stations, and laminated each one with a nice lamination machine we have. We still need 14 small wooden crosses to be able to properly have Stations (with the indulgences and everything).
Recording equipment! I really messed this one up. If you don't have a friend with nice recording equipment (or just in case that friend doesn't show up for some reason), at least have a laptop, tablet, or phone handy to catch the audio. Use common sense -- place it next to the priest, or as close as possible, and try to minimize noise in the chapel during the sermon.
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Duplicate thread (http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=23080#p1) in the SSPX-Rome Agreement forum.
There should be some simple way of linking subjects when they're identical.
Computers do this kind of thing all the time on a hard drive or memory
storage system. Should be no big deal.
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Another thing most Resistance chapels could use -- a kneeler. Also known as a "prie-Dieu". This is important during Holy Communion. Not everyone is 20 years old, skinny, and in perfect health. Some people can't get back up if they kneel down, without something to push off of.
Confessional -- think about a nice setup for Confessions. Obviously a professional "Confession Box" is out of the question for a Resistance group. But you can get creative here.
Bells -- while a professional "sanctus bell" set can be expensive for some groups, you can at least have a single bell. It's going to sound higher (and emptier) than you're used to -- but fortunately I had experience here from my Seminary days. Most of the minor altars (used for daily Mass), especially the 5 altars side-by-side in the Crypt, used this kind of bell. So I knew my options for what is considered "acceptable" or "normal".
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005V0E1RC/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B005V0E1RC&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20
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I built my own altar by buying lumber from Menards.
I am no craftsman.
But I was able to build a platform for an altar step, and a base for which to set my desk on.
Stain the wood to match the color of the business desk, and there it is.
An antependium to cover the front.
More lumber to make a communion rail.
It all looks very nice (doing the stain work is the key; it hides many cut marks; crooked lines; mistakes).
Total cost = $500.
I made the platform 6' x 6'
The altar is 40.5" tall and 60" wide.
Credence table in matching stain; a couple chairs for servers of matching stain to the side; lectern of matching stain; communion rail; etc.
I don't even own a table saw; didn't need one.
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In regards to audio recording equipment, this is what we have been using:
Make sure to make your purchase using Cathinfo's link so that our dear Moderator can benefit!
Zoom H4N
http://www.amazon.com/Zoom-ZH4N-Portable-Digital-Recorder/dp/B001QWBM62
(http://truefire.com/gear/audio/zoom-h4n/zoom-h4n.jpg)
We have screwed this on a light stand pointing at Father (there is a threaded hold at the bottom of the unit), and we also have taped this (using cinema gaffer tape of course) to the pulpit, facing Father. It gives relative good sound. However this set up doesn't allow the audio to be monitored during the recording, to avoid issues like flat batteries, input level too high (clipping) or too low... I got the most inexpensive Sennheiser wireless system:
Sennheiser freePORT FP12-B Wireless Lavalier mic system
http://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-freePORT-FP12-B-Presentation-Microphone/dp/B0021F1LDC
(http://derringersmusic.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Sennheiser_Freeport_FP_lapel.jpg)
Monitoring the audio through a pair of nice studio monitor headphone ensures that the audio is always at its best!
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alternatively, a small voice recorder in Father's pocket will work too. I am just 'picky'.
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What is the "basic kit" ?? Meaning, what is absolutely necessary for mass to take place?
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What is the "basic kit" ?? Meaning, what is absolutely necessary for mass to take place?
Here is a portable mass kit (go-bag style) on amazon. :roll-laugh2:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00F8ESQX6/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1380676214&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70
But I assume this would require the priest to have his own vestments??
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With all due respect...im not crazy abt the resistance or sspx
but may I suggest a bar night folding table as an altar. One I have has the three night settings and one is perfect
some candles, cross nailed onto a plywood painted and varnished altarpiece...some laminated cards...and voila!