Short answer: Yes.

The SSPX is going downhill fast, with many CONCRETE ACTIONS that have been completed, and new orientations that have been made manifest through the official organs and statements of the SSPX.

As such, the SSPX is no longer the go-to group for the Resistance in the broad sense -- the Traditional Movement which resists Modernism, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, Judaism, and Vatican II.

I think many would agree that their local SSPX chapel is far better than the Novus Ordo. It isn't dangerous to the Faith; the sermons might even be decent. But each and every SSPX priest is under the authority of Fr. Rostand, and must send a % of all collection proceeds up the chain to the District, and another % up the chain to SSPX Headquarters in Menzingen.

And if Fr. Rostand orders something, he has to carry it out.

The question is -- should we continue to support the SSPX, who has cast out Bishop Williamson and countless holy, faithful, courageous priests? I answer NO, we should not!

Just to be clear:
By "support" I mean financially. Attending their Masses is a different story. An SSPX Mass is valid AND not harmful to the Faith, so you can't sit at home on Sunday if there is an SSPX chapel reasonably close to your home.

I want OUT of the SSPX. If Bishop Williamson isn't welcome, than neither am I. I want my children to look up to real MEN like +Williamson and great priests like those in the Resistance. How will I ever expose my children to these holy clerics, if I continue to assist exclusively at my local SSPX chapel? It's not going to happen.

When it comes time for Confirmations, the SSPX will be sending any bishop EXCEPT Bishop Williamson. That, my friends, is NOT a good thing. How can you get a good +W sermon when +Fellay is the one doing confirmations? You can't.

It appears that many Catholics in the Resistance are in the same boat -- namely, they are NOT horrified by evil dripping from their SSPX priest -- because their SSPX priest is not evil and agrees with many points brought up by the Resistance. Some priests in this category even give decent sermons! At SSPX chapels with these priests, nothing has really "changed", or at least very little has.

In fact, it sounds like the average Catholic attending Resistance Masses has nothing personally against their SSPX priest. It's the SSPX they are opposing, and they want out from under it.

I fully agree. Under that aspect, I think it IS time to start Resistance chapels EVERYWHERE, NOW.

It's not about waiting for something bad to happen at your SSPX chapel. It's about getting a safety net ready BEFORE you need it. Remember, both priest AND Faithful need that comfort that they won't be out on the streets (or out in the cold without the Sacraments). Think of how much blackmailing power you take away from the bad guys, just by organizing an alternate chapel!

It's not your local SSPX priest that you're opposing. In fact, let him in on it!  Recommend to your fellow Resistance parishioners that HE be supported directly with donations, rather than putting $$ in the general collection. Most places don't get Mass every week from the Resistance, and it's certainly NOT better to "stay home" than attend an SSPX Mass. An SSPX Mass is a valid TLM; it's not the Novus Ordo.

Give honor where honor is due; give support where support is due. Show your valued priests that you will support them DIRECTLY, WHEREVER they have to go to be faithful to their priesthood.

That way, they will be less likely to put up with Menzingen's ...crap... and they'll know who their friends are -- the faithful Catholics who wish to continue the legacy of the saintly Archbishop Lefebvre.

If you want to get all philisophical (which is a good thing), I understand where you're coming from.

I've actually thought about that.

The problem is -- monolithic organizations (like the erstwhile SSPX) provide their OWN can of worms that is EASILY as dangerous if not more so.

The real problem is the 42 year nature of the Crisis in the Church, and the fact that it doesn't seem to be ending.


It's like someone pressing down on your diaphragm as hard as they can. Eventually, you have to give in to nature and just pass out from lack of oxygen.
Your brain does that to conserve oxygen, to give your body a few more moments of life.

The real solution to the above situation? For the attacker to go away and let you breathe.

Likewise, what we REALLY NEED is for Rome to convert back to Tradition. Until then, it's going to be a messy, messy situation indeed all over so-called "Traddieland".

Problem is... we dont have enough risistance priests, througout the sspx.... and certaintly not in ireland..... whither goest we.....?

Problem is... we dont have enough risistance priests, througout the sspx.... and certaintly not in ireland..... whither goest we.....?

First, you organize.

Then, when you have 25+ people, you appeal directly to Bishop Williamson, and let him know you can support his visits.

He is your closest option.....you are actually the luckiest of all!

The question is -- should we continue to support the SSPX, who has cast out Bishop Williamson and countless holy, faithful, courageous priests? I answer NO, we should not!

I am the leader of a resistance group in Toronto.  However, I continue to assist at the local SSPX chapel when Fr. Pfeiffer is not here.  Some believe that this undermines the resistance and I tend to agree, but I am concerned about not fulfilling my Sunday obligation when I can.  I do not believe that my Faith is currently threatened at this chapel.  Do you advise me to stop going to the SSPX chapel and if so, what would constitute a valid reason in my case for missing Mass on Sundays?  

As proof of the correctness of this position, recall the recent letter of Fr Ringrose (ie., a resistance priest) to Fr Rostand, in which he says, "I do not yet give the SSPX a red light..."

As proof of the correctness of this position, recall the recent letter of Fr Ringrose (ie., a resistance priest) to Fr Rostand, in which he says, "I do not yet give the SSPX a red light..."

Yes, it also shows how objective and truthful Fr. Ringrose is.

It's true -- the SSPX shouldn't get a red light. Not for attendance, anyway.

I think the time has long since passed to stop putting money in their weekly collection.

I know what I'm talking about: a tithe (or half-tithe) is kicked upstream to the US District HQ as well as Menzingen. There are better ways to support your priest and/or chapel.

For each person, I think there'll be a point where you say "enough". For my family and I, it came when Bp. Williamson was thrown out which then opened my eyes to the can of worms the neo-SSPX had changed into.

Once I realized that our Faith was being compromised (especially during the continuous insipid sermons of pro-Rome, obey Bp. Fellay, the evil internet campaign) and a very special thanks to a good friend who enlightened me on how the plans of this betrayal actually came from Metzingen. That was the breaking point for us.

Knowing all of this being Bp. Fellay's intention with joining Rome, I'm very comfortable with  NOT going to a neo-SSPX chapel as I cannot trust them and my conscience would be seriously troubled. Knowing that my hard earned money is going towards the funding of undermining of my Faith......NEVER!!! Yes, it was difficult to pull my children out of their school........yes, we don't have a valid place to attend mass (within 150 miles), yes, we do miss all the "bells & whistles" from attending mass, but I keep reminding myself of where the current SSPX is heading......

For my family & I, we decided a while back that the sole reason we attend the TLM is for.......the true Faith. So, if this one thing is in any danger, we were more than happy to remove ourselves from that environment and not just settle for any/all comforts the neo-SSPX provided.

God knows what's in our hearts and if it means that we can only make a spiritual communion at home, so be it. The rosary is the key.