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Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
« Reply #30 on: August 22, 2022, 08:31:38 PM »
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  • Isn’t massive ego McFarland in charge of this school?

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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #31 on: August 22, 2022, 08:54:22 PM »
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  • Girls should learn to cook and keep household.  Most girls are pushed into college by schools, peers and parents.  Being a house wife is viewed as being boring and not a real job. 

    There isn’t nothing wrong with going to college and having a degree as back up for emergencies but make sure the young girls know how to budget, cook, clean, etc. You always see older people running church kitchens when it should be teenagers instead of acting immature.

    I know my one niece wants to get married and have a normal family.  ( social media like Pinterest shows the real young woman.). It’s not cool to get married to a man and be a wife and have a family.  In order to be accepted these young people are pressured into lgbt etc.

    This lgbt bullying and brainwashing has been in the schools for over 20 years and no one did anything to prevent. 

    Modernism and it’s mortal sins will eventually take over traditional Catholic schools.  Aren’t they already pushing the jab?

    I agree with you, Viva Cristo Rey. Even though plays and sports can be carried out harmlessly, they unfortunately can be easily corrupted as how they have been for the past few hundred years. 

    It sounds like your niece is very wise. Most women indeed just don't get it. I am 38 and have a good job as a banker now and have had a hard enough time  and experience even with traditional Catholic women (aside from any personality defects I have on my part). Interestingly, several women in whom I have an interest end up going into the religious life. Others are also probably comfortable talking to me since they are already taken by a boyfriend, fiancé, or husband. The single ones tend to not always be that friendly with me or are limited in their conversation with me. I mean just on a natural level, whatever happened to even just decent conversation and simple interaction? This involves lack of sacrifice as well because marriage also calls for it. I am not saying I am never guilty of this myself, but as you have pointed out, a lot of women do not even know how to do womanly things.

    Even though he is not considered perhaps a serious traditional Catholic by perhaps some here on the forum, Dr. Timothy Gordon, of Youtube and Dr. Taylor Marshall type fame, I think does a great job in delineating the roles of men and women in regard to marriage. He and his wife had written books about each role. In a past video, they speak also about the importance of availability on the part of women. Availability in itself is lacking today. As you said, they want a career and live like the world. The attachment to the world is a key factor. I remember Matthew telling me several years ago about how it is better to find a wife who may not be Catholic at first but continually gravitates into the faith and further lives it than one who is traditional Catholic but will only make so much progress in the spiritual life to a certain point. 

    Bishop Williamson made it clear in the past that women should be looking for a husband too. It's really plain an simply. Not rocket science. 

    Traditional Catholic groups are indeed not immune from sin and corruption. The way the Antichrist will rise in power from what I understand and learned and from what I remember imagining is that men will fall into pride and think they do not need the faith anymore. That is what we see today but in a weaker fashion since there are many souls who still believe, and the Antichrist has not arrived yet. 


    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)


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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #32 on: August 22, 2022, 08:55:56 PM »
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  • These extra curricular actually activities are a distraction from family life.  I have watched parents grab fast food on run taking children to dance, sports. Children eating in car seats. They are up late and don’t complete chores or even homework.  That is messed up.    Etc.
     I agree. I believe Mike of the Rundown and Restoring the Faith Youtube channels had an "unpopular" opinion about this saying the the same thing more or less. 
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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #33 on: August 22, 2022, 10:15:49 PM »
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  • Double negation is perfectly good grammar in some languages, e.g., French and Polish, in fact, just today, I was filling out a form to submit to the Polish consulate for my son's citizenship, and I wrote "nigdy nie mieszkałem w Polsce", literally, "I haven't never lived in Poland".

    But in English it is not.  It does, however, get the idea across.  (And I can't spell for hell in Polish.  I really had to work at it today.)
    Maybe you are another one to ask about this. In the reign of Ratzinger, he was about to install some Polish bishop in a hierarchical office, but the Poles complained strongly because the bishop has collaborated with the Commies. There was so much fuss that people started asking why Wojtyla had survived when most bishops had not survived. When some details suggested that Wojtyla was a collaborator and some people started noticing, Ratzinger withdrew the appointment and shut down the investigation. All discussion ended.

    At the time I didn't not never (triple negative) archive such things, but have wondered about the details. Your thoughts?

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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #34 on: August 22, 2022, 11:22:40 PM »
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  • Maybe you are another one to ask about this. In the reign of Ratzinger, he was about to install some Polish bishop in a hierarchical office, but the Poles complained strongly because the bishop has collaborated with the Commies. There was so much fuss that people started asking why Wojtyla had survived when most bishops had not survived. When some details suggested that Wojtyla was a collaborator and some people started noticing, Ratzinger withdrew the appointment and shut down the investigation. All discussion ended.

    At the time I didn't not never (triple negative) archive such things, but have wondered about the details. Your thoughts?
    I don't know nothin'.

    I wouldn't have the slightest idea what to tell you.  It probably wouldn't be the first time that the Church would have failed to keep its distance from a hostile state as much as it should have.

    Along the same lines, mutatis mutandis, fun thought, Trump gets re-elected in 2024, converts to Catholicism, and is received into the Church by Vigano.  Traditional Latin Mass in the chapel at Camp David?  Don't say it can't happen.  (WRT his marital situation, it's probably a fair bet that Donald and Melania have a Josephite marriage.)

    Francis would lose his mind.

    :popcorn:


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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #35 on: August 23, 2022, 04:49:20 AM »
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  • …, mutatis mutandis, fun thought, Trump gets re-elected in 2024, converts to Catholicism, and is received into the Church by Vigano.  Traditional Latin Mass in the chapel at Camp David?  Don't say it can't happen.…

    Truly it's a fun reverie …until… we awaken from our dream… and realize … Chabadniks, including Kushner, would also lose their minds. (… or is that singular? hive mind? :laugh1: ) Their tribal specialty is not a rarity.


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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #36 on: August 23, 2022, 07:25:25 PM »
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  • it is better to find a wife who may not be Catholic at first but continually gravitates into the faith and further lives it
    Multiple women from my parish have courted and eventually married non-Catholic single men who converted right before marrying. They seem to think the "ever-trad" young adults are not marriage material.

    than one who is traditional Catholic but will only make so much progress in the spiritual life to a certain point.
    If you're not making progress spiritually, you're regressing.
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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #37 on: August 23, 2022, 07:56:22 PM »
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  • Multiple women from my parish have courted and eventually married non-Catholic single men who converted right before marrying.

    They seem to think the "ever-trad" young adults are not marriage material.
    Regarding the first point, I have seen the same, only for the husband to lose the Faith not long after the wedding.

    My young adult children would agree with the second point.  The ladies find the trad young men "boorish, full of themselves, or gold diggers".  The young men want something more than "maid mentality".


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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #38 on: August 23, 2022, 10:47:20 PM »
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  • Bishop Williamson made it clear in the past that women should be looking for a husband too. It's really plain an simply. Not rocket science.
    Why? Not all women are called to marriage.
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    « Reply #39 on: August 23, 2022, 10:54:47 PM »
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  • I don't understand the housewives without infant children who send their children to these schools instead of homeschooling them. What do they do with all their free time when their children are at these schools and they're home alone?
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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #40 on: August 23, 2022, 11:20:14 PM »
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  • Why? Not all women are called to marriage.
    He would have then not been talking about those called to religious life particularly when he said that but those who are not called to religious life. 
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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #41 on: August 23, 2022, 11:29:00 PM »
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  • Multiple women from my parish have courted and eventually married non-Catholic single men who converted right before marrying. They seem to think the "ever-trad" young adults are not marriage material.
    If you're not making progress spiritually, you're regressing.

    There's hope for me yet then. :laugh1:

    Indeed. There is no actual plateau in the spiritual life. There is only tending toward heaven or hell. There are in some cases a façade of living the life of grace. 
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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #42 on: August 23, 2022, 11:57:07 PM »
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  • Regarding the first point, I have seen the same, only for the husband to lose the Faith not long after the wedding.

    My young adult children would agree with the second point.  The ladies find the trad young men "boorish, full of themselves, or gold diggers".  The young men want something more than "maid mentality".

    Come again?  Men being "gold diggers"?  Never heard of that one before (at least not in trad-Cath circles).  The dynamic seems to be finding a man who can support a large family while the wife stays at home with the children.  And "boorish" and "full of themselves"?  I've never seen that either.  

    I certainly hope that such conversions "stick", and I have known of cases that did, but I have to think that it wouldn't work nearly as well the other way around.  Think of this --- traditional Catholic man goes out into the world and courts a non-Catholic woman.  He has to sell her on the idea of using no contraception, having more children than the larger society regards as good, staying home, living frugally because there is no money to waste, and teaching the children a Faith that she does not yet possess.  In the eyes of the world, those are some pretty big "asks".  

    After getting the first question out of the way in seeking someone to marry --- "can I trust her out of my sight?" --- the next one should be "if something were to happen to me, can I trust that our children would always be taught the Faith and taught to observe it?".  That is why I see mixed marriages as almost impossible.  How could a Catholic man rest easy, knowing that if something happens to him, his wife can't teach the Faith because she doesn't possess it herself?  One of my most fervent prayers (and an uncertainty I live with) is "Dear Lord, please let me live until I get my son raised".  

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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #43 on: August 24, 2022, 06:00:08 PM »
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  • Come again?  Men being "gold diggers"?  Never heard of that one before (at least not in trad-Cath circles).  The dynamic seems to be finding a man who can support a large family while the wife stays at home with the children.  And "boorish" and "full of themselves"?  I've never seen that either. 

    I certainly hope that such conversions "stick", and I have known of cases that did, but I have to think that it wouldn't work nearly as well the other way around.  Think of this --- traditional Catholic man goes out into the world and courts a non-Catholic woman.  He has to sell her on the idea of using no contraception, having more children than the larger society regards as good, staying home, living frugally because there is no money to waste, and teaching the children a Faith that she does not yet possess.  In the eyes of the world, those are some pretty big "asks". 

    After getting the first question out of the way in seeking someone to marry --- "can I trust her out of my sight?" --- the next one should be "if something were to happen to me, can I trust that our children would always be taught the Faith and taught to observe it?".  That is why I see mixed marriages as almost impossible.  How could a Catholic man rest easy, knowing that if something happens to him, his wife can't teach the Faith because she doesn't possess it herself?  One of my most fervent prayers (and an uncertainty I live with) is "Dear Lord, please let me live until I get my son raised". 

    Each case is different, but I see what you mean. It depends especially on if the non-Catholic becomes Catholics and knows and lives the faith well. 
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #44 on: August 24, 2022, 06:11:10 PM »
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  • Come again?  Men being "gold diggers"?  Never heard of that one before (at least not in trad-Cath circles).  The dynamic seems to be finding a man who can support a large family while the wife stays at home with the children.  And "boorish" and "full of themselves"?  I've never seen that either. 
    Many trad young men at our sspx chapel want their wife to be the breadwinner, hence they look for a woman with a good job.  Many are also boorish, and/or conceited, and/or boring (with no interests).