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Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
« on: June 08, 2021, 11:43:47 AM »
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  • Holy Family Academy is a charter school in Phoenix that was started by families from Our Lady of Sorrows (OLOS) Chapel in Phoenix after they lost the stronghold which they previously had on the OLOS Academy for so many years.  This break-away "Academy" claims to be a Traditional Catholic school that is "the best option" for Trad Catholic families who want their children to have a fully Traditional Catholic liberal arts education.  Having said that, the reality is that this school embraces modernism in many ways.  From the pants-wearing / Novus Ordo / feminist Principal, to the baseball team that has historically joined forces with a local Protestant Church so as to have enough players to field a team, to the immodest dress promoted by the girls' volleyball team --- it's all a façade.

    Look at these photos and tell me that they really care about modest attire and teaching girls to be feminine. No wonder so many of these girls (and some of their mothers), all who still attend OLOS, dress so provocatively for Holy Mass!  Do they not care that they are tempting teenage boys and probably even grown men to lust and fall into mortal sin?    

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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #1 on: June 08, 2021, 12:03:21 PM »
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  • From the pants-wearing / Novus Ordo / feminist Principal, to the baseball team that has historically joined forces with a local Protestant Church so as to have enough players to field a team, to the immodest dress promoted by the girls' volleyball team --- it's all a façade.

    Look at these photos and tell me that they really care about modest attire and teaching girls to be feminine. No wonder so many of these girls (and some of their mothers), all who still attend OLOS, dress so provocatively for Holy Mass!

    This is undeniably a problem.

    Sportsball is NOT a necessity of life. What kind of concession to the Modern World has been made, where the administrators and parents have decided that it would be a disaster for the kids to not have sports? From a Catholic, sane perspective, it's not worth mixing with Prots and basically worldly, public school kids. What's the point of a private "Trad Catholic" education, if the kids are just going to have Prot and other worldly friends to heavily influence them?

    Remember the average age for porn exposure in the United States: Something like 8 or 9 years old. And the nature of porn today -- heaven help us all! It is so different from the Baby Boomer's experience (some nudie magazines and "centerfolds" in magazines hidden under the bed). Unless you're Amish or a serious Trad, this statistic applies to YOU and the kids in YOUR neighborhood.

    And the way one dresses in daily life is certainly important, reflective of the spiritual life of the person involved. Women in pants is NOT a neutral thing. But immodesty is even worse, of course!
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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #2 on: June 08, 2021, 12:40:22 PM »
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  • This is undeniably a problem.

    Sportsball is NOT a necessity of life. What kind of concession to the Modern World has been made, where the administrators and parents have decided that it would be a disaster for the kids to not have sports? From a Catholic, sane perspective, it's not worth mixing with Prots and basically worldly, public school kids. What's the point of a private "Trad Catholic" education, if the kids are just going to have Prot and other worldly friends to heavily influence them?

    Remember the average age for porn exposure in the United States: Something like 8 or 9 years old. And the nature of porn today -- heaven help us all! It is so different from the Baby Boomer's experience (some nudie magazines and "centerfolds" in magazines hidden under the bed). Unless you're Amish or a serious Trad, this statistic applies to YOU and the kids in YOUR neighborhood.

    And the way one dresses in daily life is certainly important, reflective of the spiritual life of the person involved. Women in pants is NOT a neutral thing. But immodesty is even worse, of course!
    I suppose I shall just have to be a heretic vis-a-vis contemporary life and society, but for the life of me, I have never understood the appeal of, as you put it, Matthew, "sportsball".  You are basically watching a ball being maneuvered across a field or court, time, and time, and time again.  Again, I know this will probably be a minority opinion, but you see one game of the various "ball sports", you've seen them all.  I know they are great bonding experiences for the community or fan contingent, they give identity to many a city, they give people something to rally around, and America being America, they are huge, huge business, but as for the overall appeal of the experience, I just don't get it.  Baseball might be somewhat of an exception, in that it is a deeply cerebral game and does not necessarily require prodigious physical strength (I have a pet theory, that these two factors are why Jєωs have historically gravitated to baseball), and it is slow.  I once took my son to a minor-league baseball game, sat back to enjoy my box of tacos and a non-alcoholic beverage, and a nice, leisurely evening at the park --- and then I realized, my son doesn't get this game.  He had absolutely no interest in it.  And soccer... I'm sorry, I've tried to like it, I've tried to get interested in it, but to me, it is the most boring, mind-numbing thing I've ever seen.  It's impossible for me to fathom why the entire world, outside of Anglo-North America, goes positively insane over it.

    My son's "sports", such as they are, are hiking, wilderness exploring, and shooting (airguns for now, will be "the real thing" when he asks for it, I will probably invest in a cheap Rossi .22 rifle for him, they can be had for around $100, something light and easy to handle).  I don't think he's missing a thing.  There are many ways to learn teamwork and group dynamics, and sportsball is only one of them.  For those who like it, fine, there's nothing "wrong" with it, but it's just not my thing and never will be.

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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #3 on: June 08, 2021, 01:08:09 PM »
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  • I've never really been intirested in sports of that nature (with possibility the exception of basketball even then I don't watch it).
    I'm into more Wildlife-hiking-survival forging thing. I do however love airsoft, especially with friends. Thats because you can make up your own rules for each match and isnt always "fowl", "out of bounds" stuff when you implement some ingenuity. It also includes strategy, team coordination, marksmanship, camoflauge, maneuverability, silent advancement, and you can really play how you and your group want to. And everyone that plays it dresses VERY modestly cuz if they don't they usually get shot and an airsoft pellet in bare skin doesn't feel very good, and most of the time it bleeds.
    So do all who live to see such times but it is not for them to decide, all you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.

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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #4 on: June 08, 2021, 01:58:15 PM »
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  • I've never really been intirested in sports of that nature (with possibility the exception of basketball even then I don't watch it).
    I'm into more Wildlife-hiking-survival forging thing. I do however love airsoft, especially with friends. Thats because you can make up your own rules for each match and isnt always "fowl", "out of bounds" stuff when you implement some ingenuity. It also includes strategy, team coordination, marksmanship, camoflauge, maneuverability, silent advancement, and you can really play how you and your group want to. And everyone that plays it dresses VERY modestly cuz if they don't they usually get shot and an airsoft pellet in bare skin doesn't feel very good, and most of the time it bleeds.
    My son is hugely into airsoft also. I went with him to a game the other day. I certainly can’t run like I used to. I will never go again as the filthy mouths of the players make for an atmosphere not conducive to a Catholic trying to stay in a state of sanctifying grace. I’ve never used that language and fortunately my son doesn’t either. Another issue was the fact that a tranny was playing too! 
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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
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  • My son is hugely into airsoft also. I went with him to a game the other day. I certainly can’t run like I used to. I will never go again as the filthy mouths of the players make for an atmosphere not conducive to a Catholic trying to stay in a state of sanctifying grace. I’ve never used that language and fortunately my son doesn’t either. Another issue was the fact that a tranny was playing too!
    That's why I only play with friends (Catholic friends who aren't trash mouths) and they are good sports. The bad language aspect is a major downside to airsoft, most of them are gamer people that want to feel like "military" and usually order people around trying to feed their big ego and cussing makes them sound "older".
    So do all who live to see such times but it is not for them to decide, all you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.

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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #6 on: June 08, 2021, 04:06:56 PM »
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  • most of them are gamer people that want to feel like "military" and usually order people around trying to feed their big ego and cussing makes them sound "older".

    Yeah, the irony is that only youths feel the need to talk like that. Real adults have nothing to prove.

    Reminds me of the old joke about screen names:

    How old is "Gamer70"?  51 years old.
    How old is "Gamer69"?  12.
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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #7 on: June 08, 2021, 04:20:52 PM »
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  • They are also bad sports along with the cussing issue, you shoot them and they come storming over demanding you hand them your gun and usually try to break it all the while screaming and insulting you :facepalm: or they outright go in fists swinging. That's why they need orange referees who go around and break up these fights. But other than the type of people it attracts (immature gamer kids, any age) its still fun.
    So do all who live to see such times but it is not for them to decide, all you have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to you.


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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #8 on: June 09, 2021, 06:00:49 PM »
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  • They are also bad sports along with the cussing issue, you shoot them and they come storming over demanding you hand them your gun and usually try to break it all the while screaming and insulting you :facepalm: or they outright go in fists swinging. That's why they need orange referees who go around and break up these fights. But other than the type of people it attracts (immature gamer kids, any age) its still fun.

    Yeah, some guy I hit didn’t yell hit, so when I hit him again he swore at me. I told him he didn’t call his hit, he said he had his hand up, but through some pallets I couldn’t see him. :fryingpan:
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    Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
    « Reply #9 on: June 09, 2021, 08:59:05 PM »
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  • I shouldn’t have to hear cussing or smell marijuana when I hike through a park.  
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