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Title: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: TradLIfe4Ever on June 08, 2021, 11:43:47 AM
Holy Family Academy is a charter school in Phoenix that was started by families from Our Lady of Sorrows (OLOS) Chapel in Phoenix after they lost the stronghold which they previously had on the OLOS Academy for so many years.  This break-away "Academy" claims to be a Traditional Catholic school that is "the best option" for Trad Catholic families who want their children to have a fully Traditional Catholic liberal arts education.  Having said that, the reality is that this school embraces modernism in many ways.  From the pants-wearing / Novus Ordo / feminist Principal, to the baseball team that has historically joined forces with a local Protestant Church so as to have enough players to field a team, to the immodest dress promoted by the girls' volleyball team --- it's all a façade.

Look at these photos and tell me that they really care about modest attire and teaching girls to be feminine. No wonder so many of these girls (and some of their mothers), all who still attend OLOS, dress so provocatively for Holy Mass!  Do they not care that they are tempting teenage boys and probably even grown men to lust and fall into mortal sin?    
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Matthew on June 08, 2021, 12:03:21 PM
From the pants-wearing / Novus Ordo / feminist Principal, to the baseball team that has historically joined forces with a local Protestant Church so as to have enough players to field a team, to the immodest dress promoted by the girls' volleyball team --- it's all a façade.

Look at these photos and tell me that they really care about modest attire and teaching girls to be feminine. No wonder so many of these girls (and some of their mothers), all who still attend OLOS, dress so provocatively for Holy Mass!

This is undeniably a problem.

Sportsball is NOT a necessity of life. What kind of concession to the Modern World has been made, where the administrators and parents have decided that it would be a disaster for the kids to not have sports? From a Catholic, sane perspective, it's not worth mixing with Prots and basically worldly, public school kids. What's the point of a private "Trad Catholic" education, if the kids are just going to have Prot and other worldly friends to heavily influence them?

Remember the average age for porn exposure in the United States: Something like 8 or 9 years old. And the nature of porn today -- heaven help us all! It is so different from the Baby Boomer's experience (some nudie magazines and "centerfolds" in magazines hidden under the bed). Unless you're Amish or a serious Trad, this statistic applies to YOU and the kids in YOUR neighborhood.

And the way one dresses in daily life is certainly important, reflective of the spiritual life of the person involved. Women in pants is NOT a neutral thing. But immodesty is even worse, of course!
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: SimpleMan on June 08, 2021, 12:40:22 PM
This is undeniably a problem.

Sportsball is NOT a necessity of life. What kind of concession to the Modern World has been made, where the administrators and parents have decided that it would be a disaster for the kids to not have sports? From a Catholic, sane perspective, it's not worth mixing with Prots and basically worldly, public school kids. What's the point of a private "Trad Catholic" education, if the kids are just going to have Prot and other worldly friends to heavily influence them?

Remember the average age for porn exposure in the United States: Something like 8 or 9 years old. And the nature of porn today -- heaven help us all! It is so different from the Baby Boomer's experience (some nudie magazines and "centerfolds" in magazines hidden under the bed). Unless you're Amish or a serious Trad, this statistic applies to YOU and the kids in YOUR neighborhood.

And the way one dresses in daily life is certainly important, reflective of the spiritual life of the person involved. Women in pants is NOT a neutral thing. But immodesty is even worse, of course!
I suppose I shall just have to be a heretic vis-a-vis contemporary life and society, but for the life of me, I have never understood the appeal of, as you put it, Matthew, "sportsball".  You are basically watching a ball being maneuvered across a field or court, time, and time, and time again.  Again, I know this will probably be a minority opinion, but you see one game of the various "ball sports", you've seen them all.  I know they are great bonding experiences for the community or fan contingent, they give identity to many a city, they give people something to rally around, and America being America, they are huge, huge business, but as for the overall appeal of the experience, I just don't get it.  Baseball might be somewhat of an exception, in that it is a deeply cerebral game and does not necessarily require prodigious physical strength (I have a pet theory, that these two factors are why Jєωs have historically gravitated to baseball), and it is slow.  I once took my son to a minor-league baseball game, sat back to enjoy my box of tacos and a non-alcoholic beverage, and a nice, leisurely evening at the park --- and then I realized, my son doesn't get this game.  He had absolutely no interest in it.  And soccer... I'm sorry, I've tried to like it, I've tried to get interested in it, but to me, it is the most boring, mind-numbing thing I've ever seen.  It's impossible for me to fathom why the entire world, outside of Anglo-North America, goes positively insane over it.

My son's "sports", such as they are, are hiking, wilderness exploring, and shooting (airguns for now, will be "the real thing" when he asks for it, I will probably invest in a cheap Rossi .22 rifle for him, they can be had for around $100, something light and easy to handle).  I don't think he's missing a thing.  There are many ways to learn teamwork and group dynamics, and sportsball is only one of them.  For those who like it, fine, there's nothing "wrong" with it, but it's just not my thing and never will be.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Romulus on June 08, 2021, 01:08:09 PM
I've never really been intirested in sports of that nature (with possibility the exception of basketball even then I don't watch it).
I'm into more Wildlife-hiking-survival forging thing. I do however love airsoft, especially with friends. Thats because you can make up your own rules for each match and isnt always "fowl", "out of bounds" stuff when you implement some ingenuity. It also includes strategy, team coordination, marksmanship, camoflauge, maneuverability, silent advancement, and you can really play how you and your group want to. And everyone that plays it dresses VERY modestly cuz if they don't they usually get shot and an airsoft pellet in bare skin doesn't feel very good, and most of the time it bleeds.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on June 08, 2021, 01:58:15 PM
I've never really been intirested in sports of that nature (with possibility the exception of basketball even then I don't watch it).
I'm into more Wildlife-hiking-survival forging thing. I do however love airsoft, especially with friends. Thats because you can make up your own rules for each match and isnt always "fowl", "out of bounds" stuff when you implement some ingenuity. It also includes strategy, team coordination, marksmanship, camoflauge, maneuverability, silent advancement, and you can really play how you and your group want to. And everyone that plays it dresses VERY modestly cuz if they don't they usually get shot and an airsoft pellet in bare skin doesn't feel very good, and most of the time it bleeds.
My son is hugely into airsoft also. I went with him to a game the other day. I certainly can’t run like I used to. I will never go again as the filthy mouths of the players make for an atmosphere not conducive to a Catholic trying to stay in a state of sanctifying grace. I’ve never used that language and fortunately my son doesn’t either. Another issue was the fact that a tranny was playing too! 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Romulus on June 08, 2021, 02:03:00 PM
My son is hugely into airsoft also. I went with him to a game the other day. I certainly can’t run like I used to. I will never go again as the filthy mouths of the players make for an atmosphere not conducive to a Catholic trying to stay in a state of sanctifying grace. I’ve never used that language and fortunately my son doesn’t either. Another issue was the fact that a tranny was playing too!
That's why I only play with friends (Catholic friends who aren't trash mouths) and they are good sports. The bad language aspect is a major downside to airsoft, most of them are gamer people that want to feel like "military" and usually order people around trying to feed their big ego and cussing makes them sound "older".
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Matthew on June 08, 2021, 04:06:56 PM
most of them are gamer people that want to feel like "military" and usually order people around trying to feed their big ego and cussing makes them sound "older".

Yeah, the irony is that only youths feel the need to talk like that. Real adults have nothing to prove.

Reminds me of the old joke about screen names:

How old is "Gamer70"?  51 years old.
How old is "Gamer69"?  12.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Romulus on June 08, 2021, 04:20:52 PM
They are also bad sports along with the cussing issue, you shoot them and they come storming over demanding you hand them your gun and usually try to break it all the while screaming and insulting you :facepalm: or they outright go in fists swinging. That's why they need orange referees who go around and break up these fights. But other than the type of people it attracts (immature gamer kids, any age) its still fun.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Quo vadis Domine on June 09, 2021, 06:00:49 PM
They are also bad sports along with the cussing issue, you shoot them and they come storming over demanding you hand them your gun and usually try to break it all the while screaming and insulting you :facepalm: or they outright go in fists swinging. That's why they need orange referees who go around and break up these fights. But other than the type of people it attracts (immature gamer kids, any age) its still fun.

Yeah, some guy I hit didn’t yell hit, so when I hit him again he swore at me. I told him he didn’t call his hit, he said he had his hand up, but through some pallets I couldn’t see him. :fryingpan:
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on June 09, 2021, 08:59:05 PM
I shouldn’t have to hear cussing or smell marijuana when I hike through a park.  
Messed up. 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Geremia on March 20, 2022, 06:31:17 PM
The school from which HFA split is no less Modernist and immodest (see for example its cross-dressing Oscar Wilde plays (https://sites.google.com/olosa.org/pac/plays)).
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Mark 79 on March 20, 2022, 06:50:27 PM
The school from which HFA split is no less Modernist and immodest (see for example its cross-dressing Oscar Wilde plays (https://sites.google.com/olosa.org/pac/plays)).

Thank God that someone else noticed that recurrent problem.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on March 21, 2022, 08:33:41 PM
There should be zero plays. What a waste of time. Such foolishness.

Looking back at early education in America, it was the one room school house which included The Bible.  There were no theatre. 

Theatre and acting was looked upon as sinful.  Today, we see how theatre and acting has corrupted society.  What next Godspell? Or Jesus Christ Superstar???

They should be home helping out at home. 



Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: ElwinRansom1970 on March 22, 2022, 04:56:36 AM
There should be zero plays. What a waste of time. Such foolishness.

Looking back at early education in America, it was the one room school house which included The Bible.  There were no theatre.

Theatre and acting was looked upon as sinful.  Today, we see how theatre and acting has corrupted society.  What next Godspell? Or Jesus Christ Superstar???

They should be home helping out at home.
Wow! Am I correct in understanding that you are a Calvinist since what you are promoting and condemning is straight from the 17th century Massachusetts Bay Colony?
:facepalm:
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on March 22, 2022, 07:47:56 AM
Wow! Am I correct in understanding that you are a Calvinist since what you are promoting and condemning is straight from the 17th century Massachusetts Bay Colony?
:facepalm:
Im Catholic. I’m not a Calvinist.  Maybe you have remnants of Vatican II.  Pre Vatican II many people lived on small farms.  They had real chores to do and didn’t have time for plays, sports and shows.  Catholic schools in our area were pushing plays on boys which is gαy. Later to find most of the priests in our area were pedophiles pushing these plays and took the government silver for sex Ed.  Catholic schools was supposed to teach the faith and most Catholics in our area don’t know the faith because they were being taught a different gospel.  Beware of any traditional group that meets with the Pope and never publicly rebuke him of his sins which has cause severe damage to the world.  Beware of any traditional organization that doesn’t speak publicly against the deadly masks and global one nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr government.  

I see most young people involved in plays and theatre shows grow up dreaming to be in Hollywood.  Most young people who are in plays and shows are queer or queer activists.  They eventually leave the Catholic Faith. They play sports and do shows and yet many young women can’t cook or are prepared to raise a family.

Sports, plays, dance classes take away from the family time, meals and it costs money too. Such a waste of time and money.  Then again it’s mostly the filthy rich who can afford to send their children to Catholic private schools.




Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on March 22, 2022, 07:52:47 AM
Girls should be home helping Mom with laundry and household chores.  Starting dinner and setting table.  Young women should be food shopping instead of their fathers. 

The young people are coddled and are lazy.  They are worldly.  Many traditional Catholic young people go to parties or sneak off to parties involving immodest dress,  Alcohol and pot.  

Also, there are the parents usually women  who are over the top with church activities that they neglect their families. So while mom or dad are at Eucharist adoration, kids running wild. 

Then they send out children to very liberal colleges where they are outnumbered by liberal pagan professors and students.  Then go to college parties where students and teachers are doing pot and alcohol hoping to score with these young Catholic people. Worse thing is send a child to any Catholic college or school.

Most Grand parents are worthless. Most will never correct or rebuke their grandchildren out of fear of the grandchildren not loving them.  







Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on March 22, 2022, 09:32:35 AM
Girls should be home helping Mom with laundry and household chores.  Starting dinner and setting table.  Young women should be food shopping instead of their fathers. 

The young people are coddled and are lazy.  They are worldly.  Many traditional Catholic young people go to parties or sneak off to parties involving immodest dress,  Alcohol and pot. 

Also, there are the parents usually women  who are over the top with church activities that they neglect their families. So while mom or dad are at Eucharist adoration, teenagers at home on lap tops and cell phones  running with zero supervision. 

Then they send out children to very liberal colleges where they are outnumbered by liberal pagan professors and students.  Then go to college parties where students and teachers are doing pot and alcohol hoping to score with these young Catholic people. Worse thing is send a child to any Catholic college or school.

Most Grand parents are worthless. Most will never correct or rebuke their grandchildren out of fear of the grandchildren not loving them. 
Why thumb down the truth??  The different scenarios that I pointed out are real life examples without naming people.

Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on March 22, 2022, 09:37:42 AM
Pre Vatican II total silence.  No Cheerios. No crayons.  Pre Vatican II children fasted during Lent and ate what Mother was cooking or child went hungry. 

At Modern traditional Mass children out of control running around up and down. Dirty bathrooms.  Cheerios and toys galore.  Children eat special good like pizza and other junk food during Lent. 

Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Everlast22 on August 22, 2022, 10:36:30 AM
Pre Vatican II total silence.  No Cheerios. No crayons.  Pre Vatican II children fasted during Lent and ate what Mother was cooking or child went hungry. 

At Modern traditional Mass children out of control running around up and down. Dirty bathrooms.  Cheerios and toys galore.  Children eat special good like pizza and other junk food during Lent.
Yea, there is a problem with kids downstairs running around making noise. They need to do that outside. We can hear them. They also leave their crap everywhere in the playrooms and even the library. Like, cmon. discipline your child.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Mark 79 on August 22, 2022, 10:56:17 AM
Yea, there is a problem with kids downstairs running around making noise. They need to do that outside. We can hear them. They also leave their crap everywhere in the playrooms and even the library. Like, cmon. discipline your child.
Is this a description of HFA or OLOSA?
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 22, 2022, 11:13:42 AM
Girls should be home helping Mom with laundry and household chores.  Starting dinner and setting table.  Young women should be food shopping instead of their fathers. 

The young people are coddled and are lazy.  They are worldly.  Many traditional Catholic young people go to parties or sneak off to parties involving immodest dress,  Alcohol and pot. 

Also, there are the parents usually women  who are over the top with church activities that they neglect their families. So while mom or dad are at Eucharist adoration, kids running wild.

Then they send out children to very liberal colleges where they are outnumbered by liberal pagan professors and students.  Then go to college parties where students and teachers are doing pot and alcohol hoping to score with these young Catholic people. Worse thing is send a child to any Catholic college or school.

Most Grand parents are worthless. Most will never correct or rebuke their grandchildren out of fear of the grandchildren not loving them. 
"Should be"
"Are"
"They" do this and that...
Most, Most, most....
Seriously?
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 22, 2022, 11:15:28 AM

At Modern traditional Mass children out of control running around up and down. Dirty bathrooms.  Cheerios and toys galore.  Children eat special good like pizza and other junk food during Lent.
What's a "modern traditional mass"?
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 22, 2022, 03:52:23 PM
I shouldn’t have to hear cussing or smell marijuana when I hike through a park. 
Messed up.
Some one enjoys it.  It is not free speech. It is filth.  And no.  I don’t like to smell cigarette smoke or weed. I like to smell clean fresh air. 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 22, 2022, 03:53:08 PM
What's a "modern traditional mass"?
Wow. Dragging up the past? Like back in  march.  Most likely the cell phone trying to put in words.  
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 22, 2022, 04:13:37 PM
Girls should learn to cook and keep household.  Most girls are pushed into college by schools, peers and parents.  Being a house wife is viewed as being boring and not a real job.   

There isn’t nothing wrong with going to college and having a degree as back up for emergencies but make sure the young girls know how to budget, cook, clean, etc. You always see older people running church kitchens when it should be teenagers instead of acting immature.

I know my one niece wants to get married and have a normal family.  ( social media like Pinterest shows the real young woman.). It’s not cool to get married to a man and be a wife and have a family.  In order to be accepted these young people are pressured into lgbt etc.

This lgbt bullying and brainwashing has been in the schools for over 20 years and no one did anything to prevent. 

Modernism and it’s mortal sins will eventually take over traditional Catholic schools.  Aren’t they already pushing the jab? 







Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 22, 2022, 04:28:58 PM
Wow. Dragging up the past? Like back in  march.  
Everlast22, not me...
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 22, 2022, 04:31:28 PM
Girls should learn to cook and keep household.  Most girls are pushed into college by schools, peers and parents.  Being a house wife is viewed as being boring and not a real job. 

There isn’t nothing wrong with going to college and having a degree as back up for emergencies but make sure the young girls know how to budget, cook, clean, etc. You always see older people running church kitchens when it should be teenagers instead of acting immature.

I know my one niece wants to get married and have a normal family.  ( social media like Pinterest shows the real young woman.). It’s not cool to get married to a man and be a wife and have a family.  In order to be accepted these young people are pressured into lgbt etc.

This lgbt bullying and brainwashing has been in the schools for over 20 years and no one did anything to prevent. 

Modernism and it’s mortal sins will eventually take over traditional Catholic schools.  Aren’t they already pushing the jab?
(https://i.imgur.com/v9EkCtB.png)
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: SimpleMan on August 22, 2022, 04:41:48 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/v9EkCtB.png)

Double negation is perfectly good grammar in some languages, e.g., French and Polish, in fact, just today, I was filling out a form to submit to the Polish consulate for my son's citizenship, and I wrote "nigdy nie mieszkałem w Polsce", literally, "I haven't never lived in Poland".

But in English it is not.  It does, however, get the idea across.  (And I can't spell for hell in Polish.  I really had to work at it today.)
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 22, 2022, 05:43:01 PM
There should be zero plays. What a waste of time. Such foolishness.

Looking back at early education in America, it was the one room school house which included The Bible.  There were no theatre.

Theatre and acting was looked upon as sinful.  Today, we see how theatre and acting has corrupted society.  What next Godspell? Or Jesus Christ Superstar???

They should be home helping out at home.
These extra curricular actually activities are a distraction from family life.  I have watched parents grab fast food on run taking children to dance, sports. Children eating in car seats. They are up late and don’t complete chores or even homework.  That is messed up.    Etc.



Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Nadir on August 22, 2022, 08:19:17 PM
Im Catholic. I’m not a Calvinist.  Maybe you have remnants of Vatican II.  Pre Vatican II many people lived on small farms.  
PreVatican 2 we loved plays and theatre as much as or maybe more than today. We used to attend plays by the Genesians.


Genesian Theatre

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Genesian Theatre, Sydney

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Genesian Theatre, Sydney

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The Genesian Theatre is an amateur theatre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_theatre) company based in Sydney (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney), Australia, named in honour of Saint Genesius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesius_of_Rome), patron saint of actors. Formed in 1944 by members of the Sydney Catholic Youth Organisation, it has since evolved into a community theatre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_theatre) in the heart of the Sydney central business district (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_central_business_district).

Description and history[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Genesian_Theatre&action=edit&section=1)]
The Genesian Theatre has been operating from historic St John The Evangelist Church in Kent Street since January 1954.[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-1) St John's Church dates from 1868. It has served as both a church and a poor school until 1932 when it became the Kursaal Theatre, housing the Sydney Repertory Company. In 1938 it became the first Matthew Talbot Hostel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Talbot_Hostel).[2] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-2)
Alumni of the theatre include John Bell (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bell_(Australian_actor)), Bryan Brown (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryan_Brown), Baz Luhrmann (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baz_Luhrmann), Coral Lansbury (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coral_Lansbury),[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-abc917-3) Judi Farr (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judi_Farr), Nick Enright (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Enright), Angela Punch (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Punch)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-tele917-4) Peter Carroll (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Carroll_(actor)).[5] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-5)
Membership is open to any members of the community that are over the age of 18. Members are invited to participate in all aspects of theatre production, including acting, designing, back-stage work, directing and administration.
The Genesian Theatre produces six main stage productions each year as well as running classes, workshops, and many other activities.
In September 2017, the Catholic Church advised Genesian that they had sold the building to a developer for over $6 million and that the theatre company would be required to vacate by November 2018. The company later negotiated with the new owner of the building to remain at Kent st until 2020.[6] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-genesianwebsite-6) The company announced a further year at Kent st in October 2019, with a likely move from the building to a new venue in 2021.[7] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-reviewsbyjudith-7) The church is heritage listed.[3] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-abc917-3)[4] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-tele917-4)
The company will reopen at a hall at St Joseph's Church, Rozelle (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rozelle) following renovations and when COVID-19 restrictions permit.[8] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesian_Theatre#cite_note-8)



Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Jr1991 on August 22, 2022, 08:31:38 PM
Isn’t massive ego McFarland in charge of this school?
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Kephapaulos on August 22, 2022, 08:54:22 PM
Girls should learn to cook and keep household.  Most girls are pushed into college by schools, peers and parents.  Being a house wife is viewed as being boring and not a real job. 

There isn’t nothing wrong with going to college and having a degree as back up for emergencies but make sure the young girls know how to budget, cook, clean, etc. You always see older people running church kitchens when it should be teenagers instead of acting immature.

I know my one niece wants to get married and have a normal family.  ( social media like Pinterest shows the real young woman.). It’s not cool to get married to a man and be a wife and have a family.  In order to be accepted these young people are pressured into lgbt etc.

This lgbt bullying and brainwashing has been in the schools for over 20 years and no one did anything to prevent. 

Modernism and it’s mortal sins will eventually take over traditional Catholic schools.  Aren’t they already pushing the jab?

I agree with you, Viva Cristo Rey. Even though plays and sports can be carried out harmlessly, they unfortunately can be easily corrupted as how they have been for the past few hundred years. 

It sounds like your niece is very wise. Most women indeed just don't get it. I am 38 and have a good job as a banker now and have had a hard enough time  and experience even with traditional Catholic women (aside from any personality defects I have on my part). Interestingly, several women in whom I have an interest end up going into the religious life. Others are also probably comfortable talking to me since they are already taken by a boyfriend, fiancé, or husband. The single ones tend to not always be that friendly with me or are limited in their conversation with me. I mean just on a natural level, whatever happened to even just decent conversation and simple interaction? This involves lack of sacrifice as well because marriage also calls for it. I am not saying I am never guilty of this myself, but as you have pointed out, a lot of women do not even know how to do womanly things.

Even though he is not considered perhaps a serious traditional Catholic by perhaps some here on the forum, Dr. Timothy Gordon, of Youtube and Dr. Taylor Marshall type fame, I think does a great job in delineating the roles of men and women in regard to marriage. He and his wife had written books about each role. In a past video, they speak also about the importance of availability on the part of women. Availability in itself is lacking today. As you said, they want a career and live like the world. The attachment to the world is a key factor. I remember Matthew telling me several years ago about how it is better to find a wife who may not be Catholic at first but continually gravitates into the faith and further lives it than one who is traditional Catholic but will only make so much progress in the spiritual life to a certain point. 

Bishop Williamson made it clear in the past that women should be looking for a husband too. It's really plain an simply. Not rocket science. 

Traditional Catholic groups are indeed not immune from sin and corruption. The way the Antichrist will rise in power from what I understand and learned and from what I remember imagining is that men will fall into pride and think they do not need the faith anymore. That is what we see today but in a weaker fashion since there are many souls who still believe, and the Antichrist has not arrived yet. 


Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Kephapaulos on August 22, 2022, 08:55:56 PM
These extra curricular actually activities are a distraction from family life.  I have watched parents grab fast food on run taking children to dance, sports. Children eating in car seats. They are up late and don’t complete chores or even homework.  That is messed up.    Etc.
 I agree. I believe Mike of the Rundown and Restoring the Faith Youtube channels had an "unpopular" opinion about this saying the the same thing more or less. 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Mark 79 on August 22, 2022, 10:15:49 PM
Double negation is perfectly good grammar in some languages, e.g., French and Polish, in fact, just today, I was filling out a form to submit to the Polish consulate for my son's citizenship, and I wrote "nigdy nie mieszkałem w Polsce", literally, "I haven't never lived in Poland".

But in English it is not.  It does, however, get the idea across.  (And I can't spell for hell in Polish.  I really had to work at it today.)
Maybe you are another one to ask about this. In the reign of Ratzinger, he was about to install some Polish bishop in a hierarchical office, but the Poles complained strongly because the bishop has collaborated with the Commies. There was so much fuss that people started asking why Wojtyla had survived when most bishops had not survived. When some details suggested that Wojtyla was a collaborator and some people started noticing, Ratzinger withdrew the appointment and shut down the investigation. All discussion ended.

At the time I didn't not never (triple negative) archive such things, but have wondered about the details. Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: SimpleMan on August 22, 2022, 11:22:40 PM
Maybe you are another one to ask about this. In the reign of Ratzinger, he was about to install some Polish bishop in a hierarchical office, but the Poles complained strongly because the bishop has collaborated with the Commies. There was so much fuss that people started asking why Wojtyla had survived when most bishops had not survived. When some details suggested that Wojtyla was a collaborator and some people started noticing, Ratzinger withdrew the appointment and shut down the investigation. All discussion ended.

At the time I didn't not never (triple negative) archive such things, but have wondered about the details. Your thoughts?
I don't know nothin'.

I wouldn't have the slightest idea what to tell you.  It probably wouldn't be the first time that the Church would have failed to keep its distance from a hostile state as much as it should have.

Along the same lines, mutatis mutandis, fun thought, Trump gets re-elected in 2024, converts to Catholicism, and is received into the Church by Vigano.  Traditional Latin Mass in the chapel at Camp David?  Don't say it can't happen.  (WRT his marital situation, it's probably a fair bet that Donald and Melania have a Josephite marriage.)

Francis would lose his mind.

:popcorn:
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Mark 79 on August 23, 2022, 04:49:20 AM
…, mutatis mutandis, fun thought, Trump gets re-elected in 2024, converts to Catholicism, and is received into the Church by Vigano.  Traditional Latin Mass in the chapel at Camp David?  Don't say it can't happen.…

Truly it's a fun reverie …until… we awaken from our dream… and realize … Chabadniks (http://judaism.is/chabad.html), including Kushner (http://judaism.is/kushner.html), would also lose their minds. (… or is that singular? hive mind? :laugh1: ) Their tribal specialty (http://judaism.is/assassins.html) is not a rarity.


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Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Geremia on August 23, 2022, 07:25:25 PM
it is better to find a wife who may not be Catholic at first but continually gravitates into the faith and further lives it
Multiple women from my parish have courted and eventually married non-Catholic single men who converted right before marrying. They seem to think the "ever-trad" young adults are not marriage material.

than one who is traditional Catholic but will only make so much progress in the spiritual life to a certain point.
If you're not making progress spiritually, you're regressing.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 23, 2022, 07:56:22 PM
Multiple women from my parish have courted and eventually married non-Catholic single men who converted right before marrying.

They seem to think the "ever-trad" young adults are not marriage material.
Regarding the first point, I have seen the same, only for the husband to lose the Faith not long after the wedding.

My young adult children would agree with the second point.  The ladies find the trad young men "boorish, full of themselves, or gold diggers".  The young men want something more than "maid mentality".
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Geremia on August 23, 2022, 10:47:20 PM
Bishop Williamson made it clear in the past that women should be looking for a husband too. It's really plain an simply. Not rocket science.
Why? Not all women are called to marriage.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Geremia on August 23, 2022, 10:54:47 PM
I don't understand the housewives without infant children who send their children to these schools instead of homeschooling them. What do they do with all their free time when their children are at these schools and they're home alone?
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Kephapaulos on August 23, 2022, 11:20:14 PM
Why? Not all women are called to marriage.
He would have then not been talking about those called to religious life particularly when he said that but those who are not called to religious life. 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Kephapaulos on August 23, 2022, 11:29:00 PM
Multiple women from my parish have courted and eventually married non-Catholic single men who converted right before marrying. They seem to think the "ever-trad" young adults are not marriage material.
If you're not making progress spiritually, you're regressing.

There's hope for me yet then. :laugh1:

Indeed. There is no actual plateau in the spiritual life. There is only tending toward heaven or hell. There are in some cases a façade of living the life of grace. 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: SimpleMan on August 23, 2022, 11:57:07 PM
Regarding the first point, I have seen the same, only for the husband to lose the Faith not long after the wedding.

My young adult children would agree with the second point.  The ladies find the trad young men "boorish, full of themselves, or gold diggers".  The young men want something more than "maid mentality".

Come again?  Men being "gold diggers"?  Never heard of that one before (at least not in trad-Cath circles).  The dynamic seems to be finding a man who can support a large family while the wife stays at home with the children.  And "boorish" and "full of themselves"?  I've never seen that either.  

I certainly hope that such conversions "stick", and I have known of cases that did, but I have to think that it wouldn't work nearly as well the other way around.  Think of this --- traditional Catholic man goes out into the world and courts a non-Catholic woman.  He has to sell her on the idea of using no contraception, having more children than the larger society regards as good, staying home, living frugally because there is no money to waste, and teaching the children a Faith that she does not yet possess.  In the eyes of the world, those are some pretty big "asks".  

After getting the first question out of the way in seeking someone to marry --- "can I trust her out of my sight?" --- the next one should be "if something were to happen to me, can I trust that our children would always be taught the Faith and taught to observe it?".  That is why I see mixed marriages as almost impossible.  How could a Catholic man rest easy, knowing that if something happens to him, his wife can't teach the Faith because she doesn't possess it herself?  One of my most fervent prayers (and an uncertainty I live with) is "Dear Lord, please let me live until I get my son raised".  
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Kephapaulos on August 24, 2022, 06:00:08 PM
Come again?  Men being "gold diggers"?  Never heard of that one before (at least not in trad-Cath circles).  The dynamic seems to be finding a man who can support a large family while the wife stays at home with the children.  And "boorish" and "full of themselves"?  I've never seen that either. 

I certainly hope that such conversions "stick", and I have known of cases that did, but I have to think that it wouldn't work nearly as well the other way around.  Think of this --- traditional Catholic man goes out into the world and courts a non-Catholic woman.  He has to sell her on the idea of using no contraception, having more children than the larger society regards as good, staying home, living frugally because there is no money to waste, and teaching the children a Faith that she does not yet possess.  In the eyes of the world, those are some pretty big "asks". 

After getting the first question out of the way in seeking someone to marry --- "can I trust her out of my sight?" --- the next one should be "if something were to happen to me, can I trust that our children would always be taught the Faith and taught to observe it?".  That is why I see mixed marriages as almost impossible.  How could a Catholic man rest easy, knowing that if something happens to him, his wife can't teach the Faith because she doesn't possess it herself?  One of my most fervent prayers (and an uncertainty I live with) is "Dear Lord, please let me live until I get my son raised". 

Each case is different, but I see what you mean. It depends especially on if the non-Catholic becomes Catholics and knows and lives the faith well. 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 24, 2022, 06:11:10 PM
Come again?  Men being "gold diggers"?  Never heard of that one before (at least not in trad-Cath circles).  The dynamic seems to be finding a man who can support a large family while the wife stays at home with the children.  And "boorish" and "full of themselves"?  I've never seen that either. 
Many trad young men at our sspx chapel want their wife to be the breadwinner, hence they look for a woman with a good job.  Many are also boorish, and/or conceited, and/or boring (with no interests).
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: SimpleMan on August 24, 2022, 07:46:10 PM
Many trad young men at our sspx chapel want their wife to be the breadwinner, hence they look for a woman with a good job.  Many are also boorish, and/or conceited, and/or boring (with no interests).

Such men need seriously to reconsider whether matrimony is their calling.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Geremia on August 24, 2022, 09:11:56 PM
McFarland in charge of this school?
He's still prior, the longest-lasting prior there since circa 2015.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Ladislaus on August 24, 2022, 10:35:51 PM
Many trad young men at our sspx chapel want their wife to be the breadwinner, hence they look for a woman with a good job.  Many are also boorish, and/or conceited, and/or boring (with no interests).

I'm really starting to wonder whether you're just here trolling Traditional Catholicism, and you seem to constantly deride men (have said at other times that many physically abuse their wives, etc.).  I'd love to know which SSPX chapel you go to.  As I've lived in different parts of the country, and have been a member for extended periods of numerous chapels, and was always close with the priest, having been a former seminarian, sometimes a classmate with the priest, thus having their confidence and trust, getting inside scoops from the priest, in addition to getting info from the lay folks' side by mixing with them as well, I've noticed none of this, not these epidemics of men who physically abuse their wives, nor have I seen these young men who "want their wife to be the breadwinner".  I see the exact opposite, young men who would be ashamed if their wives had to work instead of staying home to raise the children.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Ladislaus on August 24, 2022, 10:40:45 PM
IMMEDIATE down-thumb to the post above, as in within seconds.  So I look and there have been 12 users online within the past 15 minutes, with epiphany being one of them.  None of the others seem to be likely candidates.  This likely exposes one of the who two who have been following me around the forum down-thumbing every single post, including innocuous ones.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 25, 2022, 05:53:31 AM
IMMEDIATE down-thumb to the post above, as in within seconds.  So I look and there have been 12 users online within the past 15 minutes, with epiphany being one of them.  None of the others seem to be likely candidates.  This likely exposes one of the who two who have been following me around the forum down-thumbing every single post, including innocuous ones.
Yep.  And he doesn't just do it to you. Anyone else who disagrees with him, criticizes him, etc will get down-thumbed and often.    

But....presuppositions!!! :laugh1:
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 25, 2022, 05:57:35 AM
I'm really starting to wonder whether you're just here trolling Traditional Catholicism, and you seem to constantly deride men (have said at other times that many physically abuse their wives, etc.).  I'd love to know which SSPX chapel you go to. As I've lived in different parts of the country, and have been a member for extended periods of numerous chapels, and was always close with the priest, having been a former seminarian, sometimes a classmate with the priest, thus having their confidence and trust, getting inside scoops from the priest, in addition to getting info from the lay folks' side by mixing with them as well, I've noticed none of this, not these epidemics of men who physically abuse their wives, nor have I seen these young men who "want their wife to be the breadwinner".  I see the exact opposite, young men who would be ashamed if their wives had to work instead of staying home to raise the children.
The same SSPX chapel that does this [but if one follows the links closely one will see that he also throws a sede chapel in there too]:

https://www.cathinfo.com/anonymous-posts-allowed/who-is-allowed-to-drink-from-the-chalice-at-mass/msg838804/#msg838804

and where the priest does this:

https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/sspx-priest-talking-explicit-lgbtq-from-pulpit/msg838786/#msg838786


I think Matthew should start to out anonymous posters that start certain kinds of anonymous threads...especially those that use the sub-forum to whine about priests.  I do not believe that the above two were started by the recently outed and banned so-called "infiltrator".

Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Mark 79 on August 25, 2022, 08:58:16 AM

I think Matthew should start to out anonymous posters that start certain kinds of anonymous threads...especially those that use the sub-forum to whine about priests.  I do not believe that the above two were started by the recently outed and banned so-called "infiltrator".

It would be immoral to "out" anyone after stating that the thread is anonymous.

I'd rather see the anonymous threads disappear.

Those who imagine that they have figured out who is who in anonymous threads should review the track records of those who serially and mistakenly imagined that I am "a rabbi," "a heliocentrist," "a heretic," "a fed," "a marijuana smoker," "have multiple accounts," and "was incarcerated."

A few, but unfortunately prolific, posters here, like everywhere else, are as full of shit as they are full of themselves.  That fact should sober up those who have too much confidence in their accusations and ridiculous "insights." They are as foolish in mis-reading the exterior forum as they are foolish in mis-reading the interior forum.

Authentic "traditional" Catholicism is perfect, but "traditional" Catholics are as much a mess as the Novus Ordites. "Traddies" have not shed their fallen natures—not one of us.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Mark 79 on August 25, 2022, 09:05:44 AM
If I see a post complaining about "downthumbs," I will often, but not always, downthumb the post.

Why?

I think it is a sad reflection on Catholics to complain about such trivial issues.

We are facing persecutions and the problem is accelerating. If downthumbs bother any of you, how the hell will you hold up when times get really bad?

Sad especially when men quail like little girls.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Mark 79 on August 25, 2022, 09:19:15 AM
He's still prior, the longest-lasting prior there since circa 2015.

And, if I dare express my opinion, Fr. McFarland is the best we have had since we lost Fr. Burfitt (who I have often thought to myself should be consecrated a bishop, a man who fought California and won).

Fr. Pons, our pastor is also a gift from God. He is a man in whom the love of Christ and the love from Christ shines forth on those around him. The joy in him is palpable and, notwithstanding his heavy French accent, his sermons and his advice in the confessional are valuable, full of concrete solutions for those of us who must battle evil in the world every day, relevant, effectual, not airy fairy abstractions for those who are already saintly.

Fr. Pazat who grew up in Franco's Spain is another manly priest who wisely serves us, all the more notable due to his age and infirmity.

Thank you, God, for these and other good priests!
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: SperaInDeo on August 25, 2022, 09:40:03 AM
Fr. Pons, our pastor is also a gift from God. He is a man in whom the love of Christ and the love from Christ shines forth on those around him. The joy in him is palpable and, notwithstanding his heavy French accent, his sermons and his advice in the confessional are valuable, full of concrete solutions for those of us who must battle evil in the world every day, relevant, effectual, not airy fairy abstractions for those who are already saintly.

And he chants like a Seraphim
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Mark 79 on August 25, 2022, 10:34:52 AM
Maybe he is actually a Seraph among us.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Ladislaus on August 25, 2022, 12:04:34 PM
The same SSPX chapel that does this [but if one follows the links closely one will see that he also throws a sede chapel in there too]:

https://www.cathinfo.com/anonymous-posts-allowed/who-is-allowed-to-drink-from-the-chalice-at-mass/msg838804/#msg838804

and where the priest does this:

https://www.cathinfo.com/members-only/sspx-priest-talking-explicit-lgbtq-from-pulpit/msg838786/#msg838786


I think Matthew should start to out anonymous posters that start certain kinds of anonymous threads...especially those that use the sub-forum to whine about priests.  I do not believe that the above two were started by the recently outed and banned so-called "infiltrator".

Yes, I had those threads in mind as well.  These types of things are a caricature of no Traditional chapel I've ever belonged to.

This is why I'm beginning to suspect that epiphany is simply an anti-Traditional-Catholic troll.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Ladislaus on August 25, 2022, 12:07:50 PM
If I see a post complaining about "downthumbs," I will often, but not always, downthumb the post.

Why?

I think it is a sad reflection on Catholics to complain about such trivial issues.

We are facing persecutions and the problem is accelerating. If downthumbs bother any of you, how the hell will you hold up when times get really bad?

Sad especially when men quail like little girls.

Oh, I don't pay attention to downthumbs at all.  I just happened to notice this one because I was editing the post for a typo literally seconds after posting it, at almost midnight, when there's usually very little forum traffic, and by the time I hit "Save" there was already a downthumb on it (literally seconds after the original post had been made).  It was literally just like a one-letter typo, and not enough time could have passed for the downthumber to have even read the post.  Knowing there was likely very little traffic, I decided to check who had been online.

Analyzing downthumbs is just another clue in attempting to discern whether someone is here with an agenda, i.e. trolling against Traditional Catholics.

So when the suspected troll immediately downthumbs a post suggesting he might be a troll, without commenting or denying it, that suggests we might be getting warmer here.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 25, 2022, 12:12:58 PM
It would be immoral to "out" anyone after stating that the thread is anonymous.

I'd rather see the anonymous threads disappear.

Those who imagine that they have figured out who is who in anonymous threads should review the track records of those who serially and mistakenly imagined that I am "a rabbi," "a heliocentrist," "a heretic," "a fed," "a marijuana smoker," "have multiple accounts," and "was incarcerated."

A few, but unfortunately prolific, posters here, like everywhere else, are as full of shit as they are full of themselves.  That fact should sober up those who have too much confidence in their accusations and ridiculous "insights." They are as foolish in mis-reading the exterior forum as they are foolish in mis-reading the interior forum.

Authentic "traditional" Catholicism is perfect, but "traditional" Catholics are as much a mess as the Novus Ordites. "Traddies" have not shed their fallen natures—not one of us.
 agree 100%
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 25, 2022, 12:16:52 PM
IMMEDIATE down-thumb to the post above, as in within seconds.  So I look and there have been 12 users online within the past 15 minutes, with epiphany being one of them.  None of the others seem to be likely candidates.  This likely exposes one of the who two who have been following me around the forum down-thumbing every single post, including innocuous ones.
I am almost always logged in, as I usually forget to log out.  Blame what you will on me.  More to offer up.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Integralism1234 on August 25, 2022, 12:38:03 PM
Yes, I had those threads in mind as well.  These types of things are a caricature of no Traditional chapel I've ever belonged to.

This is why I'm beginning to suspect that epiphany is simply an anti-Traditional-Catholic troll.
(((Epiphany))) might be a tr✡︎ll indeed.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 25, 2022, 02:18:34 PM
If I see a post complaining about "downthumbs," I will often, but not always, downthumb the post.

Why?

I think it is a sad reflection on Catholics to complain about such trivial issues.

We are facing persecutions and the problem is accelerating. If downthumbs bother any of you, how the hell will you hold up when times get really bad?

Sad especially when men quail like little girls.
Then it would also be a sad reflection of those who down-thumb on the regular because they have it out for a certain member [like Epiphany does] or to down-thumb others simply because they want to show them how pitiful they are [like you do].
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 25, 2022, 02:23:27 PM
I am almost always logged in, as I usually forget to log out.  Blame what you will on me.  More to offer up.
Then your name would almost always be on the list, but it's not.

"For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 25, 2022, 02:24:23 PM
Then it would also be a sad reflection of those who down-thumb on the regular because they don't like a certain member [Epiphany] or to down-thumb others simply because they want to show them how pitiful they are [like you do].
Fixed it for you.  Agreed.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 25, 2022, 02:27:13 PM
Fixed it for you.  Agreed.
Oh I see you logged in again!  :laugh1:
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 25, 2022, 02:28:26 PM
Then your name would almost always be on the list, but it's not.

"For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17
You may call me what you will, but God will not ignore your presuppositions, calumny or detraction. 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 25, 2022, 02:31:01 PM
Oh I see you logged in again!  :laugh1:
Repeat: I am almost always logged in, as I usually forget to log out.  
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 25, 2022, 02:32:18 PM
Repeat: I am almost always logged in, as I usually forget to log out. 
Liar.  If you were always logged in your name would always have a green light on it.  
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 25, 2022, 02:34:14 PM
One guess who gave me all of my down-thumbs in the last several hours!

I'll show her! :laugh1:
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 25, 2022, 02:43:09 PM
It would be immoral to "out" anyone after stating that the thread is anonymous.

I'd rather see the anonymous threads disappear.

Given a large percentage of the time the anonymous sub-forum is abused, I would agree.  However, I think there are times when people need to ask sensitive, personal questions anonymously.  
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 25, 2022, 03:31:10 PM
One guess who gave me all of my down-thumbs in the last several hours!

I'll show her! :laugh1:
Clearly it doesn't matter what I say, you are going to believe what you will.  
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 25, 2022, 04:33:25 PM
Liar.  If you were always logged in your name would always have a green light on it. 
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Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Nadir on August 25, 2022, 05:45:20 PM
Yes, I had those threads in mind as well.  These types of things are a caricature of no Traditional chapel I've ever belonged to.

This is why I'm beginning to suspect that epiphany is simply an anti-Traditional-Catholic troll.
He certainly has a poor understanding of the faith and doctrine He has had to be corrected many times especially on questions related to the permanence of marriage. He claims to have adult children but he acts like a teenager at times.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Nadir on August 25, 2022, 05:59:15 PM
I, too, downthumb folk who complain of downthumbs.
I upthumb when I see some has been unjustly downthumbed.
And I have never logged out.
What is this green light you speak of, 2V?
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: SperaInDeo on August 25, 2022, 06:55:23 PM
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Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Geremia on August 25, 2022, 07:14:53 PM
Fr. Burfitt (who I have often thought to myself should be consecrated a bishop, a man who fought California and won).
Interesting:
https://thomasmoresociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Fr_Burfitt_v_NewsomTW.mp4
(source (https://thomasmoresociety.org/client/fr-trevor-burfitt/))
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 25, 2022, 08:05:00 PM
I, too, downthumb folk who complain of downthumbs.
I upthumb when I see some has been unjustly downthumbed.
And I have never logged out.
What is this green light you speak of, 2V?
There is a box by your name.  When it is green, you are online.  When it is white you are not.  When you are online your name is also listed on the main page as being online.  The fact that  Lad saw epiphany's name means he was most certainly online, not just forever logged in.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 25, 2022, 08:12:03 PM
There is a box by your name.  When it is green, you are online.  When it is white you are not.  When you are online your name is also listed on the main page as being online.  The fact that  Lad saw epiphany's name means he was most certainly online, not just forever logged in.
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Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Mark 79 on August 26, 2022, 12:56:19 AM
Interesting:
https://thomasmoresociety.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Fr_Burfitt_v_NewsomTW.mp4
(source (https://thomasmoresociety.org/client/fr-trevor-burfitt/))

I think well of Fr. Burfitt. I do NOT think well of the Thomas More Society. I know of instances when they failed to help Catholics in need, including those who were confronted with vax mandates. I think they are self-aggrandizing, "all show and no go."  It is also bizarre that a nominally Catholic organization approvingly cites the Satanist and Hellfire Club member Franklin on the matter of liberty. :facepalm:
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Nadir on August 26, 2022, 01:25:35 AM
There is a box by your name.  When it is green, you are online.  When it is white you are not.  When you are online your name is also listed on the main page as being online.  The fact that  Lad saw epiphany's name means he was most certainly online, not just forever logged in.
Always something new to discover. So I have not noticed the difference because I never log out. :laugh1:  I’ll never be able to see my little box white. 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 26, 2022, 04:13:01 AM
There is a time limit.  
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: 2Vermont on August 26, 2022, 06:46:16 AM
Always something new to discover. So I have not noticed the difference because I never log out. :laugh1:  I’ll never be able to see my little box white.
Yes, but others can.  I also never log out, but others can see when I'm online....either by the box or by the list of users online listed on the main web page.  So no one can claim they weren't online by saying they never log out.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: epiphany on August 26, 2022, 12:20:25 PM
He certainly has a poor understanding of the faith and doctrine He has had to be corrected many times especially on questions related to the permanence of marriage. He claims to have adult children but he acts like a teenager at times.
(https://c.tenor.com/a0P8oUCh8WsAAAAM/mr-bean-too-easy.gif)
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Ladislaus on August 26, 2022, 01:01:48 PM
I, too, downthumb folk who complain of downthumbs.
I upthumb when I see some has been unjustly downthumbed.
And I have never logged out.
What is this green light you speak of, 2V?

There's a difference between complaining about it and calling it out.  I could hardly care less.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 26, 2022, 01:06:57 PM
Wow! Am I correct in understanding that you are a Calvinist since what you are promoting and condemning is straight from the 17th century Massachusetts Bay Colony?
:facepalm:
Personally, I have seen how theatre leads to sodomy and it’s agenda.  And Bishop Williamson was right about Sound of Music too.

Nothing wrong with a Nativity play or Passion play but when Catholic schools do secular liberal musicals, it’s a problem.  Then there are many do shows and plays with dreams of Hollywood instead of just enjoying the moment.


There should be more concentration about the Catholic Faith instead of secular distractions.  They should be taught manners and how to budget a household. Their should be more bible reading and Church history too.

The most successful are the children who take wood shop, FFA, auto repair welding, cooking, canning etc.  They are learning life skills. 

It seems that many students of the past with only an 8th grade education were and are far more intelligent then most college grads.

Look how present day by Catholic schools are pushing theatre, dance classes and sodomy.  Look at how sports plays a huge part of pushing sodomy in Catholic universities.  Those young girls can be at home playing volleyball with the family or watching the little ones. 

Locally town traveling sports are now on Sundays.  Later adults will watch sports on the altar to their god the almighty tv.

I am a Catholic. My ancestors who helped build the Catholic Church weren’t playing sports or silly plays.  Many fought for the Catholic Faith in America. 
They worked and had strong family values.






Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 26, 2022, 01:34:20 PM
I have seen local problems with novus Ordo priests and public schools too It was always about sports and school musicals, plays  ending with sex abuse too.  And even traditional Catholic schools. All you have to do is go to the local supermarket to see all these prepared meals to go packages while many families are eating fast food in care on the way to games and practices.

Look at professional women sports like soccer and volleyball. Many of them are lesbians. 

I see young people who are lazy. They were left farms and they refuse to work. 
Instead of playing football, son should have been helping the father.  Now Catholic family of 5 with parents divorced. 



Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Minnesota on August 27, 2022, 09:27:44 PM
I have seen local problems with novus Ordo priests and public schools too It was always about sports and school musicals, plays  ending with sex abuse too.  And even traditional Catholic schools. All you have to do is go to the local supermarket to see all these prepared meals to go packages while many families are eating fast food in care on the way to games and practices.

Look at professional women sports like soccer and volleyball. Many of them are lesbians. 

I see young people who are lazy. They were left farms and they refuse to work.
Instead of playing football, son should have been helping the father.  Now Catholic family of 5 with parents divorced.
Ok, if two parents divorce, there were bigger issues there than a boy playing football.
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Kephapaulos on August 28, 2022, 10:30:56 PM
I have seen local problems with novus Ordo priests and public schools too It was always about sports and school musicals, plays  ending with sex abuse too.  And even traditional Catholic schools. All you have to do is go to the local supermarket to see all these prepared meals to go packages while many families are eating fast food in care on the way to games and practices.

Look at professional women sports like soccer and volleyball. Many of them are lesbians. 

I see young people who are lazy. They were left farms and they refuse to work.
Instead of playing football, son should have been helping the father.  Now Catholic family of 5 with parents divorced.

Sports are good for fun if one likes them and is good at them. Professional sports though is such a waste of time and money nowadays. Even in early days of professional sports, it was already a problem. I have never been a huge sports fan or good at them, but I have an appreciation for them and any good that can be found in their history. 

I am surprised that there are youth not working on farms they own. Is this in different states? If they don't want to work and want them, they just give them to those who are willing to work the land. 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 29, 2022, 02:02:45 AM
I have seen local problems with novus Ordo priests and public schools too It was always about sports and school musicals, plays  ending with sex abuse too.  And even traditional Catholic schools. All you have to do is go to the local supermarket to see all these prepared meals to go packages while many families are eating fast food in care on the way to games and practices.

Look at professional women sports like soccer and volleyball. Many of them are lesbians. 

I see young people who are lazy. They were left farms and they refuse to work.
Instead of playing football, son should have been helping the father.  Now Catholic family of 5 with parents divorced.
Novus Ordo sports and secular musicals.   
It’s Catholic Church who has been pushing communist agenda.  Sex Ed and UN propaganda was in Catholic schools after Vatican II.  Most of these bishops and cardinals are sodomites.  Immodest Catholic school uniforms. The skirts are up their ass. Its a disgrace.   Special prayer rooms for non Catholics to pray their false religions.  The pope worships pagan idols. There is no true Catholic Faith being taught.  It is all United Nations feel good be lazy global communism.  It’s the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr religion being taught.  Novus Ordo pushes sports abd these sodomite shows. The classrooms are full of unqualified laity who don’t even know the faith and aren’t living the faith.  There is a reason why no vocations.

What do you think families did during penal times in Ireland ?  Were they going to soccer games or participating in theatre where sodomy is being promoted? No, these families were working hard to survive.  Children worked too.  There were times for fun among family and neighbors.  They prayed often when they woke up , during work, etc.  

organized sports and theatre are things created by people who hate Jesus and used distractions to break down the family.  how can mom cook dinner if she is running to take girl volleyball, son to baseball, etc. how many poor children are taken to ball fields to be bored and exposed to worldly people using foul language and dressing indecently.  How many families involved in sports end up broken families.  Can you say adultery.   Little children are sponges. How much does it cost for dance lessons, baseball, football.  Your son can play ball but can he butcher an animal?  Your daughter with the immodest expensive dance lessons can she do laundry and help set table and cook a meal.  Yet they don’t know a darn thing about the Catholic Faith.  

Television was created to brainwash and to destroy the family.  Look at the old poster that simple man showed the mom knitting, sister at home on piano, father reading newspaper and young boy playing with pup.  

The global communist elites won’t even allow their own children to watch tv or even have technology until their child was older and in high school.   






 
Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 29, 2022, 02:44:42 AM
Too much sports.   There is no balance. 


Look at the schools today.  Children today don’t want to work because they want to be liberal communist activists.  In another thread, many are dumb as bricks.   

Boys who would go home to work on farms or family business were told by sodomite principal to leave Catholic schools because they didn’t play sports or participate in plays.  Most of the students mostly female who attended this Catholic school ended up being liberals who are pro abortion and pro sodomite. 

What’s next to the high school? Masonic lodge. 




Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 29, 2022, 02:58:07 AM
The novus Ordo family of five and divorced because of being worldly.  They blew money on really stupid stuff.  And maybe other stuff. 


If you are novus Ordo , you can be divorced and still hand out communion, do the readings, etc.

The novus Ordo Catholics are the biggest hypocrites in our area with help of poor spiritual guidance.













Title: Re: Phoenix's Holy Family Academy - Modernism & Immodesty
Post by: Minnesota on August 29, 2022, 07:13:23 AM
Viva why are you obsessed with the penal times in Ireland? It feels very puritanical.