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World War III - Chapter 2 / Re: Netanyahu hopefully soon to be indicted
« Last post by Ladislaus on Yesterday at 09:02:41 AM »
What does it matter which criminal they hold forth as the face of the Israeli regime?
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The way pax worded it, it seemed like he was saying they were all damned.  But he clarified later after I asked.
Byzcat, I never used the word 'damned' or 'hell' or anything of the sort.  I said that "if one could be CERTAIN they could save their soul by accepting V2 and the new mass", then Tradition is schismatic and sinful.  The point being that the V2/new mass church provide UNCERTAIN ways to salvation, because those that accept the new religion don't receive the full Faith, nor do they attend a mass that is without sinful abuse/scandal.
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It is a moral/canon law principle that one is not allowed to place oneself in doubtful situations in terms of the mass/sacraments.  Therefore, those who accept V2/new mass are DOUBTFULLY saved.
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A second principle is that we have a duty to give to God our BEST in all things, which includes religion.  V2 and the new mass are inferior and anti-catholic in many ways; while the True Faith and True Mass are perfect offerings.  Therefore, those who accept such inferior offerings to God (when a perfect offering is available), will be doubtfully saved, because they do not know if God will be pleased.  He certainly was not pleased with Cain.
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General Discussion / Re: Global warming hoax confessions
« Last post by Alan on Yesterday at 08:23:22 AM »
Here is a climate confession:

Astrophysicist Nir Shariv, one of Israel’s top scientists, said: “Like many others, I was personally sure that CO2 is the bad culprit in the story of global warming. But after carefully digging into the evidence, I realized that things are far more complicated than the story sold to us by many climate scientists or the stories regurgitated by the media.” As Dr. Shariv began to dig into the issue he was surprised to discover “there is no concrete evidence—only speculation—that man-made greenhouse gases cause global warming.”

Solomon points out, “Even research from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC)—the United Nations agency that heads the worldwide effort to combat climate change—is bereft of anything inspiring confidence. In fact, according to the IPCC’s own findings, ‘man’s role is so uncertain that there is a strong possibility that we have been cooling, not warming, the earth. Unfortunately, our tools are too crude to reveal what man’s effect has been in the past, let alone predict how much warming or cooling we might cause in the future.’”

In the wake of mounting scientific evidence, Dr. Shariv and many others now believe that solar activity offers a much more plausible explanation for global warming than man-made carbon emissions, particularly because of the evidence that has been accumulating over the past decade of the strong relationship that cosmic-ray flux has on our atmosphere.
(Source: www.breakpoint.org)
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I won't answer for Pax, although I think he'd agree, but the way I answer that question is:

I am sure that I would go to hell if I were to accept V2 and the new "mass", because accepting necessarily means that I believe all of the heresies of V2 to be Catholic truths. To do that means that I no longer believe, and instead reject the true faith and Mass for the new faith and "mass". I cannot do both, God said no one can.

There is not a shred of doubt in my mind that I'd end up in hell because I'm positive that I would lose the faith in very short order, just as has happened since V2, and is still happening to, *as far as I know*, every single person who accepts V2 and the new mass. I could never get to heaven if I lose the faith before I die.

I know what my fate would be, but how or if others are able to avoid losing the faith and avoid going to hell by accepting V2 and the new "mass", I have no idea how they can accomplish that.  
The way pax worded it, it seemed like he was saying they were all damned.  But he clarified later after I asked.
I see what you’re saying, it seems you’re making a decision between knowingly rejecting what you know (which is damnable) and going to the NO simply because you don’t know it’s bad (which you left uncertain).  Conceptually that makes sense 
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General Discussion / Re: Global warming hoax confessions
« Last post by Viva Cristo Rey on Yesterday at 07:46:20 AM »
During USA Pope’s visit there was plenty of pollution including the push to normalize sodomy as “love” and plenty of trash and litter to clean up too.

If there is any global warming it is from liberals with their pollution from nuclear disasters, materialism, medical waste, greed and laziness.  

If you love and worship God, then you would take of the environment everyday
instead of worshipping false gods of United Nations.  
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You:


I quoted you verbatim. You said they are "the same law."

A law that says "all cardinals vote" is NOT "the same law" as the law that says "cardinals over 80 may not vote."

You might as well argue that "black" and "not black" are the same color.
Your problem is that you are not differentiating. The law for voting *is* the same law and applies only to those within the conclave. This is indisputable so please, no sense arguing this point any further.

The law of who can and cannot vote in the conclave is not the same. PPVI changed the requirement to only those under 80 years old can vote.

I agree that this new law is stupid and wholly disagree with it, although any more I don't think it matters much, and having achieved it's purpose, in a few more years I don't think it will matter at all, but that those over 80 cannot vote does not effect the validity of those voting, or the election in any way. All it does is slightly reduce the number of voters, which, although it's possible that this law might possibly affect the outcome of the elction, it does not affect the validity of the election. I don't know why this bit of reality eludes you.    

As an aside, the conclave had to cast their ballots 5 different times before they finally elected Francis as pope, so much for the allegation of lobbying.

Now, which law is it that applies to me, but not to you?
What do you hope to gain by arguing against the law?
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The Library / Re: The Apocalypse
« Last post by Viva Cristo Rey on Yesterday at 05:10:09 AM »
It good news to hear that there is a priest preaching the truth in South America.  It is time to prepare and make reparations for all of us.   

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The Library / Re: The Apocalypse
« Last post by Franciscan Solitary on Yesterday at 04:13:45 AM »
Pardon my ignorance but is Fr. Meramo a recognised authority that elicits OP's respect?  I found a letter of his written to Bishop Fellay with his name and station at the bottom on TIA :
https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f030ht_OpenLetterSSPX.htm

In truth Padre Méramo is certainly among the foremost Catholic scholars currently writing in the Spanish-speaking world.  The quality of his scholarship is exceptionally high.  The best praise this writer can give him is that Padre Méramo is also at present much feared and calumniated by the powerful Novus Ordo in Columbia.  His radio sermons are heard widely through South America and his close collaboration with Archbishop Lefebvre from the early days of the S.S.P.X. has already made him a legend in his own time.
May this writer's translations of these several mighty essays from the Spanish be perhaps a little worthy of this great and holy priest of the Church of Rome.

   
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World War III - Chapter 2 / Netanyahu hopefully soon to be indicted
« Last post by Mark 79 on Yesterday at 02:34:18 AM »
Israel’s election results show Netanyahu is in serious trouble
No one outright won. But Netanyahu did worse than he hoped and may lose office because of it.
By Zack Beauchamp

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/9/18/20871949/israel-election-results-who-won-benjamin-netanyahu

The September Israeli election results are in — and it’s still not clear who the country’s next prime minister will be. But the results are the biggest threat to incumbent Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s hold on power since he took office in 2009.
With over 90 percent of the vote now counted, the centrist Blue and White party looks to have won the largest number of seats in Israel’s parliament, called the Knesset — 32 out of a total of 120. Netanyahu’s right-wing Likud came in a close second, with 31 seats.
Obviously, neither one of these parties has enough for a parliamentary majority on its own. Which means they will either have to make some kind of power-sharing deal with each other and form what’s called a “national unity” government or else cobble together some kind of coalition out of the seven smaller parties who made the Knesset. The most important of these is Yisrael Beiteinu, a hawkish secular party whose allegiances are very much up in the air. Its leader, former Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman, is widely described as a “kingmaker” in the Israeli press.
So who will come out on top here? Honestly, no one knows yet. But there is a real chance that Netanyahu will lose the top job even if his party remains in power. Benny Gantz, the head of Blue and White, has said he’s interested in a national unity government — but only if Likud dumps Netanyahu.
This is the fight of Netanyahu’s political life — and his personal one, too. Because if he loses, he will have no way to protect himself from imminent indictments on corruption and bribery charges. A defeat in coalition negotiations for Netanyahu might not just be the end of his political career; it could be the end of his freedom.
Israeli election results: how to make sense out of chaos
The best way to think about Israeli politics is in terms of two major ideological blocs, defined principally (but not exclusively) by stances on the Palestinians, minority rights, and the relationship between synagogue and state.
There’s a center-left alliance, which includes down-the-middle Blue and White, center-left Labor, the left-wing Democratic Union, and the Arab minority’s Joint List (which came in a strong third in this election). Then there’s a right-wing grouping, which includes Likud, the ultra-Orthodox parties Shas and United Torah Judaism, and the pro-West Bank settlement Yamina. (Another right-wing party, the Jewish supremacist Otzma Yehudit, failed to get enough votes to enter the Knesset).
Current results show the center-left bloc with 56 seats, and the right-wing bloc with 55. The remaining nine seats in the Knesset go to Lieberman’s Yisrael Beiteinu (Israel Our Home), which kind of straddles the divide.
Lieberman is extremely hawkish on security and the Palestinians; he supports annexing part of the West Bank. This aligns Yisrael Beiteinu with the right-wing bloc; indeed, Lieberman had served in Netanyahu’s cabinet in the past.
However, Lieberman’s voting base — made up significantly of voters from Russian backgrounds — is also relatively secular and resentful of the privileges the ultra-Orthodox have in Israeli society. After Israel’s last election in April, Lieberman refused to join Netanyahu’s coalition unless Netanyahu agreed to a bill undermining the exemption from mandatory military service provided to ultra-Orthodox men. Netanyahu refused to avoid losing ultra-Orthodox support, but without Lieberman’s backing, he didn’t have enough votes for a parliamentary majority. So he chose to call new elections in September with an eye toward winning a more secure majority.
But we now know that hasn’t materialized. Netanyahu’s lead is more imperiled than ever, and Lieberman is the swing vote that could help determine who ends up running the government.
The next step is for Israeli President Reuven Rivlin to meet the leadership of all parties and then task either Gantz or Netanyahu with trying to form a governing coalition based on who he thinks has the best chance to do so (yes, there’s a president and prime minister in Israel’s system). Nobody yet knows who Rivlin will task or what kind of government may emerge from it.
Most experts think the smart money is on some kind of national unity government, which would likely include Blue and White, Likud, Yisrael Beiteinu, and possibly others. But no one is quite sure exactly who would lead such an arrangement.
Benny Gantz. 
Netanyahu could remain prime minister in some fashion — perhaps if he agrees to step down when the criminal indictment against him is formally filed. Gantz could end up sole prime minister. Another Likud member could end up with the top job, fulfilling Gantz’s condition that Netanyahu no longer hold the premiership. The wackiest scenario is that the parties could quite literally share power — with Gantz and some Likud leader taking turns holding the top job. This has happened before in Israeli politics, weird as it sounds.
Pretty much everything now depends on backroom negotiations among Gantz, Netanyahu, the rest of Likud, and Lieberman. Again, no one actually knows how this will go or even if a national unity government is workable. There are other possible arrangements too, though the numbers make it tricky for either a unified right or center-left bloc to hold power.
So basically, everything’s up in the air. The only thing we can be absolutely certain about is that Netanyahu, a canny politician, will fight like hell to maintain his hold on power. Facing the risk of jail time, his last hope is to pass a law immunizing himself from criminal charges so long as he holds office. To build enough support for this obviously shady bill, he’d likely need to remain prime minister.
But Gantz campaigned in large part as a defender of Israeli democracy against Netanyahu’s personal corruption. It’s difficult to imagine a coalition including Blue and White voting to protect Netanyahu from the consequences of his own corrupt actions (which allegedly include, among other things, giving a major media organization political favors in exchange for positive coverage).
We can’t say what the policy implications of this election will be until a coalition emerges. But, personally, it’s clear Netanyahu — the longest-serving prime minister in Israeli history — is at now at real risk of not only political defeat but of serving jail time to boot.
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The Library / Re: The Apocalypse
« Last post by donkath on Yesterday at 01:35:40 AM »
Pardon my ignorance but is Fr. Meramo a recognised authority that elicits OP's respect?  I found a letter of his written to Bishop Fellay with his name and station at the bottom on TIA :
https://www.traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/f030ht_OpenLetterSSPX.htm
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