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The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers / Re: Remember Myrna
« Last post by Miseremini on Yesterday at 04:22:47 PM »
For Myrna, 99 years indulgence.

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Crisis in the Church / Michael Matt on the Road Again
« Last post by Ladislaus on Yesterday at 04:04:07 PM »





Sounds about right ... though not so sure that it's unintentional.
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
« Last post by girlytrad on Yesterday at 03:57:54 PM »
It is precisely this non-Catholic attitude, condemned by today's gospel of the Pharisee and the Publican, that I despise.

I have no problem with others making the decision that for them and their family it may be a danger to the Faith to attend the SSPX and therefore to take the decision to make a clean break with the SSPX and sanctify the Sunday by praying at home when a Resistance priest is not available.

But those who find it necessary to call those of us in the Resistance who do not share their view, or rather, do not find it applicable to our situation, "compromisers" whom they would like to have nothing to do with, "leave us alone", should examine their consciences.

True Catholics should be overjoyed that any soul of good will would come into their midst. Did you despise Novus Ordo Catholics coming to the Traditional Mass when you were in the SSPX?

If you want to "preserve the Faith pure and undefiled", please tell me how I am endangering that by attending a Resistance Mass.

Archbishop Lefebvre gave us the principle which should govern our decision in this matter: we must not put our Faith in danger. In the early days of the Novus Ordo he even permitted his seminarians to attend the New Mass on their vacations and "didn't dare" tell the faithful not to attend Mass on Sundays. His attitude - not his principles - changed with time as it became clear beyond a doubt what a grave danger to the Faith the NOM represented. Can that be said of SSPX Masses, and in all circuмstances? It is in fact arguable that it can be said of your opinion that one should avoid the SSPX like the plague. For many Resistance Catholics (if you will allow us to consider ourselves such) this would mean almost never attending Sunday Mass. In spite of all the possible ways of addressing this situation, such as those suggested by Fr Pivert, in practice it nonetheless results in many souls losing the Faith or at least drifting away. There is more than one way to put your Faith in danger.

 An attitude of humility, like the Publican's, is what we all need. Do what you need to do to keep the Faith. Consult a priest you trust. Be careful pontificating on what others should do, even if you are a priest, just as Bishop Williamson had the prudence to do. We are in a crisis, it's not always that simple.


When priests in our ranks advise certain people to go to SSPX Masses because of "their particular circuмstances", there is no long term plan usually given. Its as if they can happily attend SSPX for the next 30 years and everything will be ok. It sounds good in the short term, but long term it is very bad advice. (Frog in boiling water)

When people fade out in the long run from not attending Mass maybe we should ask what the root cause of that is. Its not because they do not have Mass. It is because they lack catechism and zeal. So perhaps priests should encourage that.

Because long term attending the SSPX, just like attending the Novus Ordo, inculcates an attitude of indifference. And this is probably the most toxic thing to a Catholic soul. The people who attend everything from SSPX to Novus Ordo, regard themselves as Catholic. They are to be commended for persevering at least. But everything else is voided. They risk falling into mortal sin for everything else except non Mass attendance. Starting with indifference to error.

It might shock many priests reading this but please consider the profile of the person who begs you to understand their "situation" in relation to SSPX Masses. Are they not usually women? Who fear losing am ambiance of piety? Or poorly catechised laymen, who (and be really honest about this) are failing in terms of their leadership of their families or are poorly catechised? (note I said "usually" before you react)

Dearest Fathers, you are physicians of souls. Imagine a physician has a patient entering his clinic with delusions. Is it not his duty to try to cure the root of the delusion rather than to allow the person to continue in it? There may be times when the physician should not press too hard on the delusion for fear of too strong a reaction, but that does not mean he should enter into the delusion with the patient!

To Plenus Venter, it may have seemed that I was being harsh to all souls considering the resistance, but it was a direct response to that particular person who was being unusually stubborn, and then broadly to all those who have such an attitude.  Their very public attitude leads to scandal, in that it leads people to equivocate the SSPX with the resistance. 


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Tom was in the objective order of things a true Catholic giant of the late 20th and early 21st Century, albeit one seemingly almost forgotten in his later years as he quietly lay on his "bed of thorns."  He also led a perhaps not surprisingly modest, pious, and ascetical life.  Let us pray that he makes it into heaven without much delay, if any.  God only knows how many countless souls his work helped so magnificently in arriving at their heavenly destination and still helps to this day.  For my part, I can hardly begin to say how much I have really benefited from TAN books, the 4 volume Mystical City of God to name just one.

He was my Dad's uncle. He was like a second father and/or godfather to me. He taught me to serve Mass, taught me (advanced) Catechism class with lots of digressions into the (((money system))) and other important topics. You might say he gave me my first "red pills". I thoroughly enjoyed and looked forward to his catechism classes. He always wanted to teach the oldest kids (which I can relate to now, frankly). He was highly educated. If he had a weakness, it was impatience -- again, I can relate. He was my example of someone outside my immediate family who was grown up and yet still a devout faithful Catholic -- his example definitely affected me. I wanted to be more like him than my dad -- and my dad was the first to agree with that.

He was my great-uncle, but our relationship was more like a close godfather, or a grandpa you were very close to and spent a lot of time with. He used to pick me up at 5:30 in the morning to go practice serving Mass (6:00 AM) and then I'd accompany him on his Saturday errands, coming home around 12:00. It was my idea, too! I really wanted to serve Mass, and I enjoyed "hanging out" with him on those Saturdays. I was 12 at the time.

I can still remember the sung Masses at our chapel -- Fr. Slupski would sing with his rich, operatic voice and Tom Nelson sang the response in a much plainer tone, with no vibrato. (I really got spoiled by how well a priest should sing!)

My life would be horribly, drastically different today if Tom Nelson hadn't started that chapel which I grew up in. Or if I hadn't made so much good use of that chapel. The priest he brought in (Fr. Frank Slupski) was another huge influence on me, especially at a very critical and vulnerable time in my life as a young adult. Saying "he changed my life" sounds dramatic and cliche, but it couldn't be more true. That few months I spent before entering the seminary, reading for hours a day from the "seminarian packet" of 175 lbs of TAN Books (free of charge for seminarians, priests), part of the "mission program", set me on a course that I'm still following today. And how could I place a value on the independent Trad chapel I grew up in? The sacraments, weekly and daily Mass, etc.? I experienced SO MANY Benedictions of the Blessed Sacrament, served so many Masses. That also changed me forever. And the two of them (Tom Nelson and Fr. Slupski) together pointed me to Bishop Williamson, the 3rd huge influence on my life.

My family wouldn't have made it, economically, without those early lessons about the Money System, how they control us with debt, etc. I knew this stuff as a *teenager* thanks to Tom Nelson.

Not to mention my parents MET at TAN Books & Publishers. So yeah -- I owe Tom Nelson a huge debt of gratitude.

And yes, Tom was very pious. He prayed a lot after every Mass. And his valuation of the Tridentine Mass (and the Traditional Movement, the Catholic Faith) rather rubbed off on me. He did live very simply. His house was inherited from his parents -- he was the youngest of 5 children. That house was in the absolute WORST area of my hometown. Not exactly flexing or showing off wealth. He had a nice car, which he explained was necessary because he was the head of a company employing 100 people, and their livelihoods depended on him. I think he just wanted a good quality German car he wouldn't have to worry about breaking down. He wore a suit, like many of his generation, again due to his dignity. But he would also wear jeans on occasion when it was time to do manual work, etc. He was very social and affable. He loved to tell stories and interesting anecdotes.

Many of my aunts and uncles (on Dad's side of the family) had problems with discipline, like many Irish (even though they were 4th generation Irish -- go figure!) Tom employed many of them at one time or another, and usually it didn't work out. The nepotism led to them being entitled, not working hard, etc. And he feared I would turn out like them. He was probably right. So a couple days after my graduation from High School, he agreed with his "general manager" to fire me from TAN Books. I wasn't able to apply myself to tasks I didn't want to do (for example, vacuuming a floor). I didn't have a good work ethic yet. But it was all part of God's plan, and Tom absolutely did the right thing. It's like God told him what to do during prayer, and he did it.

But he wasn't done with me! After I was dismissed from the Seminary 8 years later (obviously much more mature, having a lot more discipline, etc.) Tom didn't hesitate to give me a job again. It's how I got started in part 2 of my software development career -- as a web developer.

P.S. The TAN in TAN Books stands for Thomas A. Nelson -- not "Tuum Adoramus Nomen" as ret-conned by Saint Benedict Press. Their lame attempt to un-person the founder of the company they purchased is cringe.
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Well, God’s opinion is the only one that really counts. There’ll be no fining Him!  In fact, this pervy person will pay an eternal fine unless she repents....
The OP could have been more specific, sorry.
Just to be clear, Nurse Instructor Amy Hamm DOES NOT APPROVE of tranz in women spaces. Her lawyer will defend her... Ann was simply stating a "Reality", her concerns about the problematic issues.    She's isn't "pervy",  - so, sorry for the confusion. 

-------- 
Btw, in 2023, 15,353 people died under MAID, (Medical Assistance in Dying) .
Culture of Death approved by the Official Health Dep't, aka, Hell Depopulation Deepstate.
Hell is a Reality, know?

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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
« Last post by BaldwinIV on Yesterday at 03:17:46 PM »
Excellent post. Do you have the full email from Menzingen that you could share?
No, only the testimony of the crazy Novus Ordo "priest" who called Econe / Menzingen, to report our TikTok activities. I also messed up the timeline, the NO priest reporting us to Menzingen coincided with the original TikTok post, but wasn't a direct response.

The NO priest started by claiming online that we (Resistance) are "Muttermörder" (Matriciders), since we are "killing the Mother Church" (masonic Rome). Again, they're trying to claim that they "barely tolerate" the SSPX, in order to get the SSPX "back into full communion", whatever, they don't get it. 

He's not the smartest, poor soul. What is however interesting, is that he called Econe and they even picked up the phone (Lefebvre would have just laughed and hanged up). I usually don't like to make private chats public, but in this instance, the priest himself even gave permission (he was so proud that he could bully Econe). "A fool tells everyone he is a fool."

Here are the chats, with translated messages below. Apparently the NO Priest didn't know the difference between "SSPX" and "SSPX Resistance" and thought calling Menzingen would have any effect.



Blue: [...] You are labeling an inhomogenous group "matriciders", although there isn't even a consensus among our group?

NO Priest: I will be calling the district superiors of the FSSPX tomorrow anyway. I spoke to Econe on the phone today, and they were NOT enthusiastic about it. In fact, they advised me to put an end to this business with these “youngsters.”




Crazy NO priest: "I called Econe yesterday and they weren't very enthusiastic either, and they urgently referred me to Father Pfluger. But give him a call. I already told him your name (at least your first name). He's considering looking in the confirmation register from June 29, and since I also know your girlfriend's name, which I told him (if I'm not mistaken, she has a Turkish name (Tugce) and another name (Eva), although I wasn't sure about that, he won't have any problem. So, as I said, give him a call. I'm sure he'll be happy to hear from you."

Blue: "Are those threats? You are welcome to point out my mistakes :)"





Unrelated guy: Uh bro I am supposed to tell you that Michael called Econe. You should also tell the others.

Blue: we don't really care




Crazy NO Priest: "Today, I spoke on the phone with Father Pfluger (District Superior of the FSSPX) for an hour and honestly addressed everything, including my statements made in anger. Conclusion: All statements made on certain platforms in the name of the Society of St. Pius X are not and do not belong to their official statements! All groups or individuals acting in their name are acting without mandate or function!"


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Anyway. After that, the "distancing" from the SSPX happened (instead of distancing themselves from this unhinged "priest", like any sane person). Oh well. Welcome to 2025, where we don't even have to hack computers to leak any E-Mails, these people are so proud of threatening us that they post it publicly. Now we have hacked leaks of clergy officials with Emoji characters in between them. I hate this timeline so much, it's not even funny anymore.

Stay away from the Novus Ordo, stay away from the SSPX. I would puke rather than take communion from Fr. Pfluger. Poor soul, may God have mercy on him.

Also, here is our "extremely offensive" TikTok edit (warning, don't watch, you will die instantly): https://www.tiktok.com/@777cogi777/video/7525138073311661334

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The Sacred: Catholic Liturgy, Chant, Prayers / Re: Remember Myrna
« Last post by shin on Yesterday at 02:35:12 PM »
Thank you for this yes!
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I benefited greatly from the books he put out as did so many others.

:pray:
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: Interview with Fr. Pivert
« Last post by Seraphina on Yesterday at 02:33:30 PM »
One cannot attend a Neo-SSPX Mass or receive their sacraments and claim to be part of the true resistance. By participating, one publicly consents to a society that has submitted to Modernist Rome, embraced the errors of Vatican II, and formally aligned itself with the Conciliar hierarchy. True resistance is lived in full fidelity to +Archbishop Lefebvre, preserving the Faith as handed down, refusing to grant legitimacy to compromise, and remaining entirely outside every act of conciliar submission. Attendance is not neutral; it is consent, and consent nullifies resistance. Any claim to resistance while participating in their services is therefore logically and morally impossible.
I do not care whether I am “part of the true resistance.” I care even less what others think about me in this respect. A priest whose main interest is the same as that of the Church, the salvation of souls by adhering to the dogma and traditions as handed down until V2, is a help to me. If that is not the case, or the priest refuses me for whatever reasons, I move on. If necessary, I make do without as I did for nearly three years during the c-sickness. 
I did not do a great job of it, many days doing the bare minimum, but giving up wasn’t an option. 
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SSPX Resistance News / Re: SSPX pilgrimage for Jubilee endorsed by Vatican
« Last post by Seraphina on Yesterday at 02:01:15 PM »
Isn’t all this travel not very environmental friendly?  Most laity are struggling financially.
Who cares about “environmentally friendly?” Isn’t a pilgrimage on foot? How is that offensive to the envirodeity?  
Unless they live nearby, SSPX laity from other countries going on this pilgrimage can afford the airfare, the expenses involved, so these, at least, aren’t struggling financially. I know a number of traditional Catholics, SSPX, Resistance, Sedevacantist, etc. who are doing very well when it comes to finances. I also know a fair number who are barely hanging on, relying on the charity of fellow trads and on whatever government benefits they can receive. Most, in my estimation, are somewhere in between, maybe towards the lower end if they have many young children not old enough to work. Much depends upon their location and type of work done or available. Some of these we don’t see regularly at Mass because it is too far to afford the weekly trip, their vehicle won’t make it, and they can’t move closer because chapels tend to be in more expensive areas near major airports. The cheapest housing is in the middle of nowhere! 
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